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sbailey4

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I think some folks are looking for a fluidity utopia that they will never find. This myth that 8.4.1 was somehow a fluidity machine is interesting, when it lagged horribly with Apple Music playing.

There were glitches in 8.4.1 as well, like Safari was a crash/reload machine and crashes in general were more more prevalent in iOS 8. This is not the case for me in iOS 9. I do not miss iOS 8 at all. I really understand wanting iOS 9 to be as perfect as possible, but folks dismissing every build as some sort of failure is totally unrealistic.
Agree! There is more to iOS than a 1/5 a second extra load time per app. No one seems to understand that the almost full screen multitask is certainly not going to be exactly like the 1/3 screen multitask in iOS8. Its simply different and drawing the larger graphics will most likely always take a little bit more time. The other features and stability in iOS 9 far outweighs iOS 8. Safari crashes and reloads, general crashes, re-springs all seem a thing of the past now. Not to say it cant happen but 9.2 BETA is already more stable than release ios 8.x ever was. iOS 8.0 on new iP6 was a hot mess. 9 has been nothing like that.
 

Act3

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LOL! That looks so unusable. The entire system is totally crippled. Oh no, time to move over to Android!

Where has anyone said it is "unusable or totally crippled" ? I have seen a post saying it is flawless.
 

Act3

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Agree! There is more to iOS than a 1/5 a second extra load time per app. No one seems to understand that the almost full screen multitask is certainly not going to be exactly like the 1/3 screen multitask in iOS8. Its simply different and drawing the larger graphics will most likely always take a little bit more time. The other features and stability in iOS 9 far outweighs iOS 8. Safari crashes and reloads, general crashes, re-springs all seem a thing of the past now. Not to say it cant happen but 9.2 BETA is already more stable than release ios 8.x ever was. iOS 8.0 on new iP6 was a hot mess. 9 has been nothing like that.

I don't recall my iPhone 6 ever being a "hot mess" on any version of iOS 8 and in fact it runs 8.4.1 as good as if not better than my air 2 ran 9.2 beta 2. ( I missed the update that killed the cell service). And that multitask animation really shouldn't be challenging the A8 chip. It can run alot more graphically intensive tasks than that very smoothly. Infinity Blade 3 is alot more demanding graphically than the year 2015 app switcher, yet it is very smooth.
 
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Dephibio

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I can't dismiss Safari View Controller with edge swipe on iPhone 6. I can only use normal Safari swipes to go back and forth. How is it supposed to work?
 

GreyOS

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I can't dismiss Safari View Controller with edge swipe on iPhone 6. I can only use normal Safari swipes to go back and forth. How is it supposed to work?
• Safari View Controller can now be dismissed using an edge swipe. You must rebuild your app

against the iOS 9.2 SDK or later in order to take advantage of this new behavior.
 

C DM

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60fps is 60fps. People have been complaining after each major iOS version yes. iOS has though been mostly stutter free with latest hardware. The biggest change since iOS 7 is having to wait for the animation to finish before being able to interact. Stutter has never been an issue for me up until iOS 9.
That's the thing, iOS 8 (and really the latest versions of it that were out close to a year after the fairly bad initial versions of iOS 8 were out), still lacks in performance compared to the latest version of iOS 7, and that lacks in that area compared to the latest version of iOS 6--might as well compare things against that and basically still be unhappy that ever since the first version of iOS 7 has been released, even years later, things are still not as good as far as performance goes when compared to iOS 6.
Where has anyone said it is "unusable or totally crippled" ? I have seen a post saying it is flawless.
Plenty of those statements from plenty of iOS 9 stutter/lag threads. That's not say everyone has been saying that, just as not everyone has been saying that things are "flawless".
I don't recall my iPhone 6 ever being a "hot mess" on any version of iOS 8 and in fact it runs 8.4.1 as good as if not better than my air 2 ran 9.2 beta 2. ( I missed the update that killed the cell service). And that multitask animation really shouldn't be challenging the A8 chip. It can run alot more graphically intensive tasks than that very smoothly. Infinity Blade 3 is alot more demanding graphically than the year 2015 app switcher, yet it is very smooth.
You might not recall that, but plenty of people do (and way more complained about all kinds of issues than there have been complaining about stutter/lag on iOS 9).

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In any case, not really what this thread is about, so no point of going down deeper this all too well and repeatedly traveled path.
 

Dephibio

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• Safari View Controller can now be dismissed using an edge swipe. You must rebuild your app

against the iOS 9.2 SDK or later in order to take advantage of this new behavior.

Thanks for elaborating on that, kind sir!
 
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shad0whawk

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Can no longer send text messages. No clue if this is an issue with AT&T number sync or what but they just sit there and then fail
I have that issue as well. I've played around with it a bit--rebooting phone, logging out of iMessage, turning off Wifi, etc. but still persists. It's not consistent either for what it's worth. It usually works if you back out of the message (navigate up one level) and then go back into the message and try sending it again. It's a PITA but it usually works.
 

iOSBry

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After a day of use of iOS 9.2 beta 2 on an iPhone 5S, the beta is laggy and stuttering in areas of the OS that were not previously a problem for me (still laggy and stuttering in all the previous places).

Anyone else experiencing this?

iOSBry
 

sbailey4

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I don't recall my iPhone 6 ever being a "hot mess" on any version of iOS 8 and in fact it runs 8.4.1 as good as if not better than my air 2 ran 9.2 beta 2. ( I missed the update that killed the cell service). And that multitask animation really shouldn't be challenging the A8 chip. It can run alot more graphically intensive tasks than that very smoothly. Infinity Blade 3 is alot more demanding graphically than the year 2015 app switcher, yet it is very smooth.
Perhaps you forgot the rotation bug that would hang up almost 100% of the time. And the video lockup bug, and other random issues. I have tried to forget but those few are burned in my brain. Cant really comment on the "lag" because I don't really have any. Just throwing out things that are different between the two that may be the root cause of what you guys are seeing. Since multitask it totally different then a side by side comparison is not really valid. If it was the same then a side by side would make more since. Same with the search. its totally different than it was in iOS 8 so ........

The good news is iOS 8.0 was updated and updated and the above mentioned items were eventually taken care of and it was decent. iOS 9 has been more stable and worked better since day 1 and keeps getting better with each update.
 
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Act3

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That's the thing, iOS 8 (and really the latest versions of it that were out close to a year after the fairly bad initial versions of iOS 8 were out), still lacks in performance compared to the latest version of iOS 7, and that lacks in that area compared to the latest version of iOS 6--might as well compare things against that and basically still be unhappy that ever since the first version of iOS 7 has been released, even years later, things are still not as good as far as performance goes when compared to iOS 6.
Plenty of those statements from plenty of iOS 9 stutter/lag threads. That's not say everyone has been saying that, just as not everyone has been saying that things are "flawless".
You might not recall that, but plenty of people do (and way more complained about all kinds of issues than there have been complaining about stutter/lag on iOS 9).

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In any case, not really what this thread is about, so no point of going down deeper this all too well and repeatedly traveled path.

A lot of words to just say different strokes for different folks
 

Freakonomics101

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I do think that beta 2 is actually smoother than beta 1 on the iPhone 6. I previously said that nothing changed (the same frame drops are still there), but they occur less frequently. The app switcher now appears to be smooth in 95% case of the time (previously more like 75%). And also the general feel of the OS while switching apps back and forth seems to be more fluent. It's still not perfect, but it's getting better.

It seems smoother on my iPhone 6 as well. Pretty pleased.
 
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dumaz

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On my 6S+ 9.2B2 seems to be making the phone pretty toasty after not using it that long. Anyone else have similar experiences?
Same phone as you and my phone is also very warm. Spotlight search is off so I don't think it is indexing anything.
 

paulbol

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For me, Touch ID was blistering fast in 9.1. It slowed way down in 9.2 b1. Now in B2, it's almost unusable. I've done all of the usual resets, re-do's and re-boots. Feedback has been given. I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed this issue.
 

atlchamp

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For me, Touch ID was blistering fast in 9.1. It slowed way down in 9.2 b1. Now in B2, it's almost unusable. I've done all of the usual resets, re-do's and re-boots. Feedback has been given. I'm just wondering if anyone else has noticed this issue.
Lmao almost unusable??? Brah your **** is ****ed up. Take it to an Apple Store
 

gordon1234

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So, if I can sneak this in between the lag wars, has there been any chance on the third-party keyboard front? For me, the problem areas have been:
- delay and no-animation" pop-in when keyboard loads.
- Keyboard randomly failing to load in apps or reverting to default.
- keyboard frequently reverting in Messages, especially when going directly into app from lock screen.

Any concrete changes anyone has observed in this regard?

…And to answer my own question, once I realized I still had my old iPhone 6 around to test on:

Nope. Took me less than 3 minutes to encounter all the above issues on 9.2 Beta 2.
 

DomC

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Nope. Took me less than 3 minutes to encounter all the above issues on 9.2 Beta 2.

Too bad. I see all these things in 9.1 and they keep me from using 3rd party keyboards. After all this time, why offer the feature then not fix the bugs to use it?
 

gordon1234

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Too bad. I see all these things in 9.1 and they keep me from using 3rd party keyboards. After all this time, why offer the feature then not fix the bugs to use it?

It is a bit perplexing. I suspect that A) There are still quite a few people within Apple that don't think a third-party keyboard API should ever have been introduced, and limit the allocation of resources, and B) The current API has some fundamental issues that can't be solved without significant changes.
 

Zaft

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Pulling up control center on lock screen is smoother on 6 Plus. Overall even smoother then beta 1. I was going to upgrade to 6S because I hated the lag but now it's like a new phone. Perfectly fine.
 
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