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C DM

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Does it do the OPPOSITE of what is supposed to do?Because thats exactly what Apple just did
Given how real Bic Macs look, you can say that they pretty much do the opposite. ;)
Please submit feedback to Apple, I have. The more that do, the better chance of it getting fixed.
Bingo, that's about the only realistic thing that can be done.
 
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e93to

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I do notice lag in launching apps on iOS 9, but it seems only specific apps are affected. Even Apple's very own iWork and iLife suites pause for a second or so when launching.
 

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Bingo, that's about the only realistic thing that can be done.

Hence why it is discussed alot on the forums, hoping others see it and then realize , "hey I am experiencing that too, it is not just me" and that convinces them to provide feedback to Apple.
 
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trifid

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What I'm curious about is, why isn't Apple fixing it? Surely someone at apple is smart enough to see it right? I don't see any harm in 'fixing' this, is there?
 

C DM

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What I'm curious about is, why isn't Apple fixing it? Surely someone at apple is smart enough to see it right? I don't see any harm in 'fixing' this, is there?
There have been some improvements here and there and people are waiting for the upcoming 9.2 release to hopefully see more. The fact that some issues might still be there for some people at this point doesn't mean that Apple isn't working on things. It took Apple about half a year to release an iOS 7 update that addressed most of the issues, and about the same amount of time to get an iOS 8 update that addressed most of the issues. And just so that this doesn't get misinterpreted--it's not to say that's a good thing or the right thing, simply to say that's how it has been and what the reality is.
 

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What I'm curious about is, why isn't Apple fixing it? Surely someone at apple is smart enough to see it right? I don't see any harm in 'fixing' this, is there?

Only the minds at Apple know that. It may have something to do with 3D touch feature that hasn't been optimized in the software for devices that don't have 3d touch. But you are right, I am surprised nobody there has noticed this. It was first thing I noticed after upgrading my Air 2 to iOS 9 series.
 

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There have been some improvements here and there and people are waiting for the upcoming 9.2 release to hopefully see more. The fact that some issues might still be there for some people at this point doesn't mean that Apple isn't working on things. It took Apple about half a year to release an iOS 7 update that addressed most of the issues, and about the same amount of time to get an iOS 8 update that addressed most of the issues. And just so that this doesn't get misinterpreted--it's not to say that's a good thing or the right thing, simply to say that's how it has been and what the reality is.

Yea I see what you are saying, maybe simply it's not high priority. It's just a shame that this seemingly trivial detail does affect usage for people, many of which maybe can't identify exactly what it is, they just double or triple tap things without thinking about the issue, but they probably experience it and consider it as general lag/hardware unresponsiveness when it's not.
 

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By the way, I've been testing 9.2 betas all the way to beta 4, there are no signs of this being fixed there.
 
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C DM

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Yea I see what you are saying, maybe simply it's not high priority. It's just a shame that this seemingly trivial detail does affect usage for people, many of which maybe can't identify exactly what it is, they just double or triple tap things without thinking about the issue, but they probably experience it and consider it as general lag/hardware unresponsiveness when it's not.
It might be something like that, or it might be that with the involvement of Metal and other related things, which are new in iOS 9, it might take somewhat more to fix some of these "trivial" things. I would say that while some people might be going about it the way you describe, many aren't doing things as quickly and aren't experiencing those issues. For example, many have had to adjust to things not responding as quickly when iOS 7 came out, when the change was even more obvious than now, and even in those days many people weren't experiencing those delays as they weren't going about things as quickly as some others.
 
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trifid

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One more point, I would think with 3D touch this issue might be more noticeable: here's something which I hated and finally was able to identify: unlock 6s and as soon as home screen appeared I tried to 3d touch phone icon to make quick call, but it didn't register. So I had to 3d touch again at which point it would have been faster to just open the phone app.

But it took me a while to identify this, for a long time I just thought I wasn't pressing deep enough to do the 3d touch, it turned out iOS9 was at fault.
 

dark_knight177

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Please submit feedback to Apple, I have. The more that do, the better chance of it getting changed back to how it was. It is definitely software, nothing hardware about it

You do realize that no one ever reads the feedback that you submit to Apple, right?
They run a special software that analyzes all feedback submitted by users and aggregates them by keywords. But really for somebody at Apple to take notice, millions of users have to submit it to Apple. Several hundred feedbacks from this forum will not get noticed by Apple, it will just get buried in the pile of other useless feedback they receive like "please add removable battery".

Don't waste your time on this. What they will notice though, is if fewer people will buy their products. So vote with your wallet.
 

trifid

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You do realize that no one ever reads the feedback that you submit to Apple, right?
They run a special software that analyzes all feedback submitted by users and aggregates them by keywords. But really for somebody at Apple to take notice, millions of users have to submit it to Apple. Several hundred feedbacks from this forum will not get noticed by Apple, it will just get buried in the pile of other useless feedback they receive like "please add removable battery".

Don't waste your time on this. What they will notice though, is if fewer people will buy their products. So vote with your wallet.

There are 3 ways as far as I know to submit feedback, and I agree one of them may be useless as you describe, http://www.apple.com/feedback/

The other way to submit feedback is through apple's developer program, which is not too hard to setup and you don't need to be a developer or pay any annual fees to do so. I have submitted OSX issues in the past and did get replies about them, in most cases telling me my report is a duplicate of previous report.
https://bugreport.apple.com/problem/viewproblem

The third way which may be effective as well, is the "Feedback" iOS app that you get when you try the iOS public betas.
 

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You do realize that no one ever reads the feedback that you submit to Apple, right?
They run a special software that analyzes all feedback submitted by users and aggregates them by keywords. But really for somebody at Apple to take notice, millions of users have to submit it to Apple. Several hundred feedbacks from this forum will not get noticed by Apple, it will just get buried in the pile of other useless feedback they receive like "please add removable battery".

Don't waste your time on this. What they will notice though, is if fewer people will buy their products. So vote with your wallet.

It can't hurt to submit. I submit a bug report as well with the beta.
 

C DM

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You do realize that no one ever reads the feedback that you submit to Apple, right?
They run a special software that analyzes all feedback submitted by users and aggregates them by keywords. But really for somebody at Apple to take notice, millions of users have to submit it to Apple. Several hundred feedbacks from this forum will not get noticed by Apple, it will just get buried in the pile of other useless feedback they receive like "please add removable battery".

Don't waste your time on this. What they will notice though, is if fewer people will buy their products. So vote with your wallet.
You do realize that for even a slightly noticeable impact on sales it would take so many more people than what anyone here could even imagine organizing that that effort is likely even less realistic and useful than submitting feedback.
 

I7guy

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Few thousands?What poll did you read?Let me break it down for you
iPhone is faster=3528 votes
Same as iOS 8=5066 votes
Little slower=9504 votes
Substantially slower=14071 votes

In other words approximately 23000 people feel iOS 9 is slower as compared to the 8000 odd who feel its as fast or faster
And yes the polls do matter.Its indicative of general opinion of people who actually comprehend tech.Not the casual users.Same as your "proof" when you said :
If you take the 954 that said a little slower out of the equation and add it into the faster and same as the answer is very different. That category is misleading because you need a little faster category also.

At any rate a small sample of enthusiast users on a tech site cannot be proven to represent anything remotely close to the majority opinion.
 
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kapp2

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Its pretty well known that iOS 9 is no where near iOS 8.4.1 in responsiveness

iOS 7 response was perfect :) no delays. iOS 8.4.1 had alot of delays :/ general iOS 8 had this problem :( and even iOS 9. They need to get back iOS 7 response again :) !!
 

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iOS 7 response was perfect :) no delays. iOS 8.4.1 had alot of delays :/ general iOS 8 had this problem :( and even iOS 9. They need to get back iOS 7 response again :) !!

Actually probably iOS6 was perfect before the translucency/glass overload in iOS7 lol. I remember my iPad 4 at the time was a speed beast on iOS6, ultra responsive scrolling etc, and then iOS7 made it so sluggish with the translucency etc. But yea I know what you are saying though, my dad's iPhone 4s is still on iOS7 and it's still quite responsive and nice compared to the sluggish successors.
 
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C DM

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iOS 7 response was perfect :) no delays. iOS 8.4.1 had alot of delays :/ general iOS 8 had this problem :( and even iOS 9. They need to get back iOS 7 response again :) !!
Certainly not in 7.0 and basically not until about half a year later when 7.1 was released.
 

kapp2

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Certainly not in 7.0 and basically not until about half a year later when 7.1 was released.

7.1.2 was great :D had it on my Mini2 :) iOS 8 and 9 destryed it:/ when booting up youtube example. Delays is there on bootup :/ also on 9.1 and even with new iphones :/ like 6/6 plus
 

kapp2

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Actually probably iOS6 was perfect before the translucency/glass overload in iOS7 lol. I remember my iPad 4 at the time was a speed beast on iOS6, ultra responsive scrolling etc, and then iOS7 made it so sluggish with the translucency etc. But yea I know what you are saying though, my dad's iPhone 4s is still on iOS7 and it's still quite responsive and nice compared to the sluggish successors.

Tottaly agree :) yes, iOS 6 performance was amazing. Miss that performance on the new iOSs these days :/
 

kapp2

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But looks like 9.2 is a big step up from 9.1. Then i look up videos, 9.1 final vs 9.2 beta 4. Huge difference on 5S example :O videos from iAppleBytes is very good :D remember to choose 1080p 60fps :)
 

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But looks like 9.2 is a big step up from 9.1. Then i look up videos, 9.1 final vs 9.2 beta 4. Huge difference on 5S example :O videos from iAppleBytes is very good :D remember to choose 1080p 60fps :)

As far as keeping with the OP topic, iOS 9.2 beta 4 is the same as iOS 9.0 as far as responsiveness with the icons registering taps. Show me a video that shows different in that regard.
 
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Dreamliner330

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Its pretty well known that iOS 9 is no where near iOS 8.4.1 in responsiveness
I came here today to see if it was worth updating my iP6 & Air 2 to iOS9, clearly not.

It does bug me that Apple hasn't had a truly buttery smooth interface since iOS 6.

Tottaly agree :) yes, iOS 6 performance was amazing. Miss that performance on the new iOSs these days :/
Careful, those of us with accurate memories tend to get shunned here. :p

"It's crappy cuz' its beta" was the drum beat for 7, 8 & 9...it still is.:(
 
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