iOS 9 vs iOS 8.4.1 unresponsiveness due to input-blocking

[dark_knight177]

You do realize that for even a slightly noticeable impact on sales it would take so many more people than what anyone here could even imagine organizing that that effort is likely even less realistic and useful than submitting feedback

You do realize that even submitting feedback doesn't give Apple any incentive to fix the bugs. Apple has no reason to fix any bugs, if people keep buying their buggy products. You could file, 5 billion bug reports, but if their sales are doing great and still growing, no one at Apple will lift a finger. Welcome to capitalism!

 

[I7guy]

You do realize that even submitting feedback doesn't give Apple any incentive to fix the bugs. Apple has no reason to fix any bugs, if people keep buying their buggy products. You could file, 5 billion bug reports, but if their sales are doing great and still growing, no one at Apple will lift a finger. Welcome to capitalism!

One persons bug is another's smooth working product. I wouldn't buy a product i believe is bug ridden, however I'm not naive enough to think any product out there is 100% perfect.

 

[C DM]

You do realize that even submitting feedback doesn't give Apple any incentive to fix the bugs. Apple has no reason to fix any bugs, if people keep buying their buggy products. You could file, 5 billion bug reports, but if their sales are doing great and still growing, no one at Apple will lift a finger. Welcome to capitalism!

"Surprisingly" they somehow fixed many bugs over the years, and all along without any hits to their sales (in fact with their sales increasing).

 

[Max(IT)]

Actually probably iOS6 was perfect before the translucency/glass overload in iOS7 lol. I remember my iPad 4 at the time was a speed beast on iOS6, ultra responsive scrolling etc, and then iOS7 made it so sluggish with the translucency etc. But yea I know what you are saying though, my dad's iPhone 4s is still on iOS7 and it's still quite responsive and nice compared to the sluggish successors.

iOS 6 had roughly half the functionalities of iOS 9 ... well, Im being kind in saying only half.

Certainly not in 7.0 and basically not until about half a year later when 7.1 was released.

correct.
We are facing a case of selective memories here.
Complaining about iOS 7.0 were very vocal.
Same about iOS 8.0 (when suddenly iOS 7 became the "perfect" iOS ).
Now the same about iOS 9 (when suddenly iOS 8 became the "perfect" iOS once again).

Tottaly agree yes, iOS 6 performance was amazing. Miss that performance on the new iOSs these days :/

again, iOS 6 had half the functionalities of iOS 9....

 

[Max(IT)]

You do realize that even submitting feedback doesn't give Apple any incentive to fix the bugs. Apple has no reason to fix any bugs, if people keep buying their buggy products. You could file, 5 billion bug reports, but if their sales are doing great and still growing, no one at Apple will lift a finger. Welcome to capitalism!

your vision about how a company works is very wrong.
There actually are people working on it, and they relay on developers, beta testers and customer feedbacks to solve the issues.
They just have to prioritize them.

 

[kapp2]

iOS 6 had roughly half the functionalities of iOS 9 ... well, Im being kind in saying only half.


correct.
We are facing a case of selective memories here.
Complaining about iOS 7.0 were very vocal.
Same about iOS 8.0 (when suddenly iOS 7 became the "perfect" iOS ).
Now the same about iOS 9 (when suddenly iOS 8 became the "perfect" iOS once again).


again, iOS 6 had half the functionalities of iOS 9....

No iOS 8 was not the perfect iOS :S

 

[dark_knight177]

There actually are people working on it, and they relay on developers, beta testers and customer feedbacks to solve the issues.
They just have to prioritize them.

Yes they do read feedback but only when top developers submit them such as Microsoft, Google or Rovio. That's how their prioritize them.

For your average Joe feedback received through the feedback app, no one ever reads them.

 

[Max(IT)]

Yes they do read feedback but only when top developers submit them such as Microsoft, Google or Rovio. That's how their prioritize them.

For your average Joe feedback received through the feedback app, no one ever reads them.

that's just plain false


https://www.apple.com/support/feedback/


Help us help you better. Use this form to send us your suggestions or report any problems you experienced finding support information or using support tools. We'd like to hear about it.

We read all feedback carefully, but please note that we cannot respond to the comments you submit.

and more:


http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/send-apple-feedback-3600360/

 

[kapp2]

iOS 6 had roughly half the functionalities of iOS 9 ... well, Im being kind in saying only half.


correct.
We are facing a case of selective memories here.
Complaining about iOS 7.0 were very vocal.
Same about iOS 8.0 (when suddenly iOS 7 became the "perfect" iOS ).
Now the same about iOS 9 (when suddenly iOS 8 became the "perfect" iOS once again).


again, iOS 6 had half the functionalities of iOS 9....

This is a Thread about Performance, not functions

 

[Radon87000]

that's just plain false


https://www.apple.com/support/feedback/


Help us help you better. Use this form to send us your suggestions or report any problems you experienced finding support information or using support tools. We'd like to hear about it.

We read all feedback carefully, but please note that we cannot respond to the comments you submit.

and more:


http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/send-apple-feedback-3600360/

Complete BS.I reported over 30 bugs and NOT A SINGLE one is fixed and its been nearly 3 months

 

[Max(IT)]

Complete BS.I reported over 30 bugs and NOT A SINGLE one is fixed and its been nearly 3 months

since you see lags and stuttering everywhere, they need to prioritize bugs....

 

[C DM]

Complete BS.I reported over 30 bugs and NOT A SINGLE one is fixed and its been nearly 3 months

And many others have had bugs they reported fixed.

 

[Radon87000]

Good video, it's exactly the same thing. Exactly the same time.







"Belive"? Do you know what you are talking about? It's a serious legal document. Apple gets sued all the time, mostly they win, if they weren't following their privacy statement they would have been sued for a long time.

Meanwhile...

Google reads your email.

Google reads your browsing history.

Your search requests.

What you buy.

Where you go.

They even use image recognition on your photos and videos you store on their services (Google photos, YouTube, Google+)

To sell you ads... For now

And they reserve the right to use that data for whatever they want, wether you like it or not. So your future employer can, for the right money, see what you are like IRL.

Apple doesn't.

I don't use anything Google. I don't like their business model, and the fact that they fight the "right to be forgotten" in the EU is enough for me to abandon all their niceties. I'm not cattle.

Its 2015 and yet people still believe Apple doesnt rift through personal info.LOL

 

[Act3]

Good video, it's exactly the same thing. Exactly the same time.

Did you even watch the videos? You started a "mythbusting " thread about this topic about a month or so ago.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/my-iphone-6-is-fast-as-hell-with-ios-9-w-mythbusting.1929419/

 

[trifid]

iOS 6 had roughly half the functionalities of iOS 9 ... well, Im being kind in saying only half.

Like I said, when comparing iOS6 to iOS7 on my iPad 4, iOS6 was VERY beautifully responsive, iOS7 wasn't, it stuttered. Did iOS7 have double the functionality of iOS6? No it didn't. The biggest change in iOS 7 was an overload of unnecessary translucency for aesthetic reasons, not necessarily for functionality. So your statement is somewhat misleading, there is an argument to be made about Apple prioritizing aesthetics over function/responsiveness.

Going back to my topic, Apple kills input until the fancy zoom or fade in fade out animation is 100% done. This blocks the user from input until he sees the fancy animation end. The end result is a user taping 2 or 3 times the same app icon because the first tap wasn't recognized. That's unacceptable.

 

[trifid]

Actually I remember, the biggest thing I noticed right away was, how the keyboard felt so instant and beautifully responsive in iOS6 on my iPad, but the iOS7 keyboard had a bit of a drag. It's probably a few ms, but boy, was that so noticeable.

 

[kapp2]

As far as keeping with the OP topic, iOS 9.2 beta 4 is the same as iOS 9.0 as far as responsiveness with the icons registering taps. Show me a video that shows different in that regard.

Search for user on youtube, iAppleBytes watch his 5S 9.1 final vs 9.2 beta 4 video

 

[Max(IT)]

Its 2015 and yet people still believe Apple doesnt rift through personal info.LOL

This post qualify you for what you are doing on this forum ....
It is a waste of my time to have a discussion with someone that only have negative thoughts about Apple.
Every single of your posts are bashing....

Like I said, when comparing iOS6 to iOS7 on my iPad 4, iOS6 was VERY beautifully responsive, iOS7 wasn't, it stuttered. Did iOS7 have double the functionality of iOS6? No it didn't. The biggest change in iOS 7 was an overload of unnecessary translucency for aesthetic reasons, not necessarily for functionality. So your statement is somewhat misleading, there is an argument to be made about Apple prioritizing aesthetics over function/responsiveness.

Going back to my topic, Apple kills input until the fancy zoom or fade in fade out animation is 100% done. This blocks the user from input until he sees the fancy animation end. The end result is a user taping 2 or 3 times the same app icon because the first tap wasn't recognized. That's unacceptable.

iOS 7 was a radical redesign and has a lot of functionalities and new APIs .... initial glitches were expected.
I don't have to tap 2 times on ANY of my iDevices. NEVER.

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
We veered off the bunny trail on this thread. Please get back on topic, some of the off topic chatter has been removed.

 

[Radon87000]

since you see lags and stuttering everywhere, they need to prioritize bugs....

Performance improvement is on the MAIN page of iOS 9 on Apple's website.Its more than a simple bug .....

 

[C DM]

Performance improvement is on the MAIN page of iOS 9 on Apple's website.Its more than a simple bug .....

That's not living up to all of the marketing, which can certainly of lower priority than any more significant issues that might be there. And even that aside, perhaps to address the stutters and the like quite a bit of work has to be done in many places or in the foundation of a lot of things, so the work is something that isn't quick and requires more effort and attention, which is perhaps why they might very well be working on it but haven't yet released the changes needed to address it all.

 

[Max(IT)]

Performance improvement is on the MAIN page of iOS 9 on Apple's website.Its more than a simple bug .....

Performance glitches are NOT a bug by any means

 

[Vexxx]

I don't have to tap 2 times on ANY of my iDevices. NEVER.

Well, this is because you tap "slow" enough.

I tap "slow" enough in my normal use, but can easily reproduce what OP is saying by being quicker with my tapping. In this case I like being slow.

 

[DoctorKrabs]

Big Macs also look completely different on TV than they do when someone gets them at McDonalds. Do people still go in circles consistently discussing that?

If someone had a Big Mac that looked worse than the ad and someone else said "No, it looks exactly the same as the ad!", maybe people would go in circles about that too. Not to mention that a Big Mac doesn't have a 2 year commitment, nor is it an investment that someone would care about.

If you take the 954 that said a little slower out of the equation and add it into the faster and same as the answer is very different. That category is misleading because you need a little faster category also.

At any rate a small sample of enthusiast users on a tech site cannot be proven to represent anything remotely close to the majority opinion.

It was also a small minority of enthusiasts on sites like this that said Apple needed to throw out skeuomorphism. The opinions of power users are more important than opinions from a sample that would represent every iPhone user.

 

[Act3]

Well, this is because you tap "slow" enough.

I tap "slow" enough in my normal use, but can easily reproduce what OP is saying by being quicker with my tapping. In this case I like being slow.

I am training myself to slow down with it, still getting the occasional clunkiness with the missed tap now and then.