Yeah, that's what a non ****** iOS works like and shows how iOS 9 is a pile of garbage.
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iOS 9 vs iOS 8.4.1 unresponsiveness due to input-blocking
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Yeah, that's what a non ****** iOS works like and shows how iOS 9 is a pile of garbage.
sure ... slow. Because it takes a speeder to close an app and open another.
OR people are just messing up with the UI purposely to fulfill their agenda.
During normal usage you don't have to tap twice .... never.
read back post #116.
You are not even being coherent ....
is it so difficult to understand that iOS previous than 7 was extremely lighter an poorer, functionalities wise, than the current version ?
The UI was simple, almost without any animations.
There were A LOT of people complaining about how "ancient" iOS 6 was.
They redesigned it entirely.
They added functionalities vocally requested.
Now people are complaining about an "heavier" iOS ...
Complainers are gonna complain.
iOS was a mixed bag for me. Especially the first revision was quite buggy, even if I had not much to complain.
But it did for many others and has been shown in many many threads and articles about it. So applying the same logic as has been applied to the whole stutter and lag thing, you must have just not noticed it, right?
So all this time we are simply comparing to something that was already not as good as of iOS 7? Seems like information that could have come up long ago. Certainly doesn't make it for as good of a comparison.
Except it's better, faster and more stable than iOS 8. What makes it better is the stability and overall improvements.
Again the same thing.
Good analogy for your replies.
I'm is like saying to a Ferrari guy who is complaining about brake performance that he should shut up because the engine performance is good!
Wrong analogy! It's like saying my accord is better than your Lexus because it takes fewer rotations of the crankshaft to start. So iOS 8 must be better than iOS 9 because it's smoother and icons aren't disabled during animations even though there have been many forum threads devoted to the overall lack of stability and safari was a mess.Again the same thing.
Good analogy for your replies.
I'm is like saying to a Ferrari guy who is complaining about brake performance that he should shut up because the engine performance is good!
Wrong analogy! It's like saying my accord is better than your Lexus because it takes fewer rotations of the crankshaft to start. So iOS 8 must be better than iOS 9 because it's smoother and icons aren't disabled during animations even though there have been many forum threads devoted to the overall lack of stability and safari was a mess.
My air 2 was top notch running safari on iOS 8.1 and nice. No where being a mess. Hyperbole at its finest, since you like using the word.
You got me there.
See c dm post above discussing some of those threads. My devices had those issues and I know at least one person where their iPhone was bricked; recovery was easy but still.Nothing subjective about crashing.If it crashes...it crashes and it never did so for me and I have a LOT of apps installed on my Air 2.And for the record there is a bug which crashes iOS 9 and hasnt been fixed for nearly 3 months now
LOL.So they sacrificed fluidity completely for stability.So I must choose between the two now?They cant coexist?Wrong analogy! It's like saying my accord is better than your Lexus because it takes fewer rotations of the crankshaft to start. So iOS 8 must be better than iOS 9 because it's smoother and icons aren't disabled during animations even though there have been many forum threads devoted to the overall lack of stability and safari was a mess.
iOS 9 update also bricked quite a lot of devices on the slide to upgrade screen.One of my friends (who doesnt know anything about all this ****) had this and I had to fix it for himYou got me there.
Agreed.My Air 2 was FLAWLESS with NOT A SINGLE LAG ANYWHERE on iOS 8.4.1.It was actually a pleasure to pick and use the device even over my iPhone 6.It was that fast at one point
And it crashed for a lot of people. And an obscure issue that no one runs into normal use of their device is quite a bit different than things just crashing when people are doing regular things or the phone just randomly restarting on its own.
In any case, as you mentioned, you didn't even use iOS 8.0 or iOS 7 and the only major version upgrade you have gone through is iOS 8 to 9, so there's nothing really for you to compare to as far as how the major version upgrades went or how initial iOS versions behaved.
I guess we're back to thin
So we're back to the same thing. Some say IOS 8 was flawless, some say much less than flawless. Some say IOS 9 is great, some say apparently less so. One thing is clear however, there is a belief that these installations all operate the same. So either they are all good, or all bad; or everybody has issues or nobody has issues. You pick it. Are those who claim there are no issues, not noticing them or are their really no issues. It has to apply equally to IOS 8 and 9.
It is true that iOS 9 is better than iOS 8 in many areas. However, this does not mean that iOS 9 is better than iOS 8 objectively in every area. Areas such as speed (subject to different applications and situations) and stability are one of many areas that iOS 9 lacks in. There are those that do not detect these problems which is fine but we cannot and should not disagree that they exist because they objectively exist while one likes it or not. Whether one can perceive it is a different story and is subjective. This is also dependent on the phone it is running on.
I speak for myself when I say that these things anger me because Apple made iOS 9 about stability and optimizations and better battery. If they hadn't, I blame myself and only myself for updating. But the fact is that these objective slowdowns and areas in which iOS 9 is lacking in are areas that they promised and advertised they would not be lacking in. Not only was it said it was not going to be lacking in, it would be improved further showing why some people, such as myself, updated. It wasn't their promise of continued stability but rather improved stability. But they failed to deliver continued stability, let alone improved.
We all agree that flawlessness is obviously not true because all OSs have some flaws in them. For myself, iOS 9 simply did not deliver as Apple promised which is why iOS 8 looks so much more attractive than iOS 9. Realistically speaking, I am planning to update to the last iteration of iOS 9 and not past that and I urge anyone with an iPhone 6 or lower not to either because the focus on 2GB RAM iPhone from here on in is probably what Apple will be going off of to build upon iOS 10 and whatever comes after. We have to also remember our hardware restrictions or disadvantages.
Anyway... after all that babble, I feel like I did not contribute. But I'm clearly on the side that says iOS 8 > iOS 9 but then again, we haven't seen the last iteration of iOS 9 yet (though I doubt it'll be better).
I speak for myself when I say that these things anger me because Apple made iOS 9 about stability and optimizations and better battery. If they hadn't, I blame myself and only myself for updating. But the fact is that these objective slowdowns and areas in which iOS 9 is lacking in are areas that they promised and advertised they would not be lacking in. Not only was it said it was not going to be lacking in, it would be improved further showing why some people, such as myself, updated. It wasn't their promise of continued stability but rather improved stability. But they failed to deliver continued stability, let alone improved.
We all agree that flawlessness is obviously not true because all OSs have some flaws in them. For myself, iOS 9 simply did not deliver as Apple promised which is why iOS 8 looks so much more attractive than iOS 9. Realistically speaking, I am planning to update to the last iteration of iOS 9 and not past that and I urge anyone with an iPhone 6 or lower not to either because the focus on 2GB RAM iPhone from here on in is probably what Apple will be going off of to build upon iOS 10 and whatever comes after. We have to also remember our hardware restrictions or disadvantages.
Anyway... after all that babble, I feel like I did not contribute. But I'm clearly on the side that says iOS 8 > iOS 9 but then again, we haven't seen the last iteration of iOS 9 yet (though I doubt it'll be better).
Thanks to the insight provided by many here, I've realized and identified that the issue extends to the entire iOS workflow whenever there is an animation in the mix. To be clear once again, the issue is that iOS9 blocks user input until an animation is 100% done. This is a fact and 100% reproducible. This wasn't the case before. But it seems with each iOS release Apple adds more input-blocking, as we can see on iOS3 it was beautifully responsive to input even when animations weren't 100% completed, and now with iOS9 there is input-blocking when transitioning to home screen and trying to tap an app (once again 8.4.1 didn't have this particular input-blocking, it was added in iOS9).
I'm planning on making a comprehensive list of cases where there is input-blocking. Interestingly it seems there are some (one? at least) where Apple is not yet blocking input: control center. If one swipes to access control center and immediately tap on flash/camera, it'll let you, there is no blocking. Notification/widget panel on the other hand does have input-blocking.
I propose we call this phenomenon #InputBlockingDuringAnimationsGate
I'm planning on making a comprehensive list of cases where there is input-blocking. Interestingly it seems there are some (one? at least) where Apple is not yet blocking input: control center. If one swipes to access control center and immediately tap on flash/camera, it'll let you, there is no blocking. Notification/widget panel on the other hand does have input-blocking.
I propose we call this phenomenon #InputBlockingDuringAnimationsGate
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A spot where they let you use input before the animation is complete on 9 is folders. Open a folder then tap outside the folder then immediately open any folder icon and it still behaves the same as 8.4.1 but only if you are tapping a folder icon. Weird huh?
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Actually you can tap any icon from springboard and have it respond instantly like 8.4.1 but only from an opened folder. Weird.
Maybe they incorporated this behavior to "trim" battery usage in places and forgot to remove it from a opened folder state? Maybe this did this to try to keep the user from opening things unintentionally? Either way it's annoying and needs to be put back how it used to be. I feel like I'm doing the robot using my phone. Press then wait.. Then press again. Then wait... So clunky. It was so smooth and bouncy before. Maybe a little too bouncy but now it's just stop and go.
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Actually you can tap any icon from springboard and have it respond instantly like 8.4.1 but only from an opened folder. Weird.
Maybe they incorporated this behavior to "trim" battery usage in places and forgot to remove it from a opened folder state? Maybe this did this to try to keep the user from opening things unintentionally? Either way it's annoying and needs to be put back how it used to be. I feel like I'm doing the robot using my phone. Press then wait.. Then press again. Then wait... So clunky. It was so smooth and bouncy before. Maybe a little too bouncy but now it's just stop and go.
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Wow nice catch, that's so annoying and I did experience that before, I just didn't think or identify it yet. I'll add that to the list
During your normal usage.
I do not have to go anywhere to see very different usage speeds. In my family there is member who could say the same as you say. One member could say that during normal usage you do not write SMS with 10 words under two minutes.
Two members use phone so fast that my eyes cannot follow...teenagers.
So far this is what I have for iOS9 (applies to 9.2 beta 4 as well):
#InputBlocking animations (bad!):
Zooming/fade-in-out to home screen animation (blocks tapping on apps, 3d touch and sliding screens)
Rubber-banding scrolling animation (blocks tapping, 3d touch)
Notification/Widget panel sliding animation (blocks tapping) those nice philips hue light scene widgets, yeap I need to tap more than once because many times it won't register due to sliding animation.
iOS9 folders animation (only tapping outside) (blocks tapping, 3d touch)
Back/Forward animation (blocks tapping, 3d touch) - example, Mail, tap inbox and tap first message fast, it won't register.
From lock screen to home screen animation: no 3d touch allowed (very important use case, whenever you take your phone out and unlock it, the transition to home screen does allow tap input during animation, which is good, but it doesn't allow 3d touch = bad)
#InputAllowed animations (good!):
Control Center (stuff like flashlight, camera are immediately available, no input blocking, good!)
iOS9 folders animation (only when closing a folder and immediately trying to open another)
Tapping home button when you are on a home screen other than page 1 - for example if you are in page 5 of your home screens, it brings you back to home screen page 1, but you can interrupt it and it will allow input during animation.
From lock screen to home screen animation: tap allowed, but not 3d touch(very important use case, whenever you take your phone out and unlock it, the transition to home screen does allow input during animation, which is good, but it doesn't allow 3d touch = bad)
#InputBlocking animations (bad!):
Zooming/fade-in-out to home screen animation (blocks tapping on apps, 3d touch and sliding screens)
Rubber-banding scrolling animation (blocks tapping, 3d touch)
Notification/Widget panel sliding animation (blocks tapping) those nice philips hue light scene widgets, yeap I need to tap more than once because many times it won't register due to sliding animation.
iOS9 folders animation (only tapping outside) (blocks tapping, 3d touch)
Back/Forward animation (blocks tapping, 3d touch) - example, Mail, tap inbox and tap first message fast, it won't register.
From lock screen to home screen animation: no 3d touch allowed (very important use case, whenever you take your phone out and unlock it, the transition to home screen does allow tap input during animation, which is good, but it doesn't allow 3d touch = bad)
#InputAllowed animations (good!):
Control Center (stuff like flashlight, camera are immediately available, no input blocking, good!)
iOS9 folders animation (only when closing a folder and immediately trying to open another)
Tapping home button when you are on a home screen other than page 1 - for example if you are in page 5 of your home screens, it brings you back to home screen page 1, but you can interrupt it and it will allow input during animation.
From lock screen to home screen animation: tap allowed, but not 3d touch(very important use case, whenever you take your phone out and unlock it, the transition to home screen does allow input during animation, which is good, but it doesn't allow 3d touch = bad)
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Yes, slow. No, it doesn't take a speeder. There have been multiple videos about this, literally in this thread. Are you ignoring those on purpose or what?
Please try to act reasonable. If you disagree, try and formulate your opinion thoughtfully and explain why you feel that way, instead of just ridiculing every sane argument.
You can actually tap the screen as the app is closing and it registers to open the app where the icon would be.
iOS9 feels like Android to me - smooth in places, but with tons of irritating glitches/stutter/lag
If they'd change this back to how it was in 8.4.1, I'd have zero complaints with iOS 9 on my iPhone 6.