nuckinfutz
macrumors 603
Samsung's a CTRL C company. They'll stop getting sued when they stop stealing peoples ideas.
I remember when they stole Blackberry's look as well.
They had it coming.
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Samsung's a CTRL C company. They'll stop getting sued when they stop stealing peoples ideas.
I remember when they stole Blackberry's look as well.
They had it coming.
onthecouchagain
macrumors 604
You know what's funny? Somehow, Jelly Bean (and Android overall) just doesn't appeal to me on any other level than my smartphone. For example, I can't ever see myself owning an Android tablet, not even the Nexus 7. For whatever reason, when it comes to tablets, I'm all iPad and iOS (not saying it's perfect, but iOS is so much better realized on the iPad than on the iPhone).
Agreed but I will still get the Nexus 7 too, especially at that great price. I am laying in bed typing this with one hand while holding the iPad with the other. It's a bit heavy. Something thinner and lighter will be welcome.
Calidude
macrumors 68000
Something that improved on the core features (improved notifications etc.)
Every other iOS version has had a core feature update:-
2 - app store
3 - copy and paste
4 - multitasking
5 - notifications
6 - nada
Getting sued is fine, understandable even, but seeking a ban is anti-competitive. Apple should ask for damages.
Calidude
macrumors 68000
You've asked this question many times on this forum and people have answered you. You're clearly not listening or refuse to listen.
onthecouchagain
macrumors 604
Something about iOS on the iPad makes its shortcomings more tolerable. The larger screen just allows for more functionality in Mail, Safari, the keyboard, etc. For example, tabs with Safari on the iPad is close to tabs on a computer; you just click the tab you want (still hate that you can only open 9 though). Whereas Safari on the iPhone requires to hit the tab button, swipe, then pick the tab you want. Things like gestures too, like pinching to get back to the home screen, or swiping left/right to quickly switch between apps, or sliding up to see the list of opened apps, etc. also help make the experience much more fluid and intuitive versus how things are done with the iPhone.
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Totally agree. I wish the iPad offered a better front facing camera (ugh on Apple for holding out features again), and was lighter and thinner. It definitely can get a little heavy, tiring, and/or cumbersome to manage if you have to hold it up constantly. I can't believe the people on the train who hold it up to read for the duration of the train ride.
I suppose I also don't see the point of getting such a middle-size-spec device between my GN and iPad. I think the Nexus 7 looks great and will def. be king of that spec-range. But again... not sure why JB/Android isn't as appealing on a tablet to me. Oh well.
When someone replies to his posts with a compelling argument he just runs away and doesn't post again, like this from earlier in the thread:
So you're saying that the fact that Android runs rich widgets, live wallpapers, etc has absolutely nothing to do with it?
I'm not doubting that ios has the better graphics management but clearly all of the above has an effect too.
Newsflash: you can be a fan of a product without being completely oblivious.
Calidude
macrumors 68000
Yeah but aren't those common sense things to do on such a large screen? I mean, it's not as if iOS is designed better for tablets, but rather that those things you describe are just obvious things to have included for such a device. If you have space for desktop-like tabs, add desktop-like tabs. If you have more space for people's whole hand, incorporate whole hand gestures. If you have space to put more information like another pane, put another pane in.
And so on and so forth.
It's still designed better though. There's a shortcut to brightness, music and volume controls in the multitasking bar on the iPad. Apple could have incorporated three finger gestures rather than whole hand gestures on the iPhone, but didn't.
Obviously the desktop tabs, and having an email list and reading pane alongside each other in the mail app are simply "big screen obvious features" - but some of the others are really useful to have, and could have been implemented in the iPhone but weren't.
Technarchy
macrumors 604
onthecouchagain
macrumors 604
Right. That's what makes the iOS experience better on the IPad than it is on the iPhone. We're essentially saying the same thing no?
To be clear I don't think iOS is perfect on the iPad. Fundamental things about the OS still bother me like the lack of threaded messages in Mail, the keyboard still misses keys often (god swype would be glorious on the iPad!), etc. I also have to confess I do less, and therefore demand less, on a tablet than I do my smartphone ( which is with me all the time) so ios' shortcomings are less bothersome on the iPad.
I respect your decision. If you prefer apple then great. Thats the way business should work. You see a product and prefer it over another. Not that company suing others for infringement while they are doing the same thing so their is little to no choice but to buy their product. It's not like Samsung started making cell phones after Apple did.
nickchallis92
macrumors 6502a
question:
Why is it relevant that iOS can run more smoothly on lesser hardware than android? At the end of the day, from a consumer's point of view, a phone is fast or it isn't. They don't need to know what is running underneath, just as long as it works.
the only argument here could be that it uses more battery, but this isn't even the case as the iphone's battery is terrible
Why is it relevant that iOS can run more smoothly on lesser hardware than android? At the end of the day, from a consumer's point of view, a phone is fast or it isn't. They don't need to know what is running underneath, just as long as it works.
the only argument here could be that it uses more battery, but this isn't even the case as the iphone's battery is terrible
onthecouchagain
macrumors 604
Apple sues Samsung....Samsung sues Apple.....they are like stupid kids!!...very childish...Apple does not own the world...although it thinks it does...
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
To a large degree I agree with you. The problem is that Android's name is tarnished a bit by the cheaper phones out there. The Android phones that you get for free on contract are going to run pretty poorly (inc somparison to the flagship phones obviously). The iOS phone (3GS) you get free ($.99) on contract will run anything on the appstore just fine. The comparison is not just for enthusiasts (what I would consider most, if not all, persons continuing the discussion in this thread). Enthusiasts are not what drive smart phone sales anymore. It is the average Joe, and the average Joe may come to the conclusion that Android is a bad platform because he is having issues with apps from Google Play where he (or his friend, or whatever) had no issues on his 3GS.
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Most of these suites are in America and other places where patent laws are antiquated. Under the law, these companies are only doing what is their right to do, essentially (not saying it IS right, but the law allows for it). Until these laws are revamped this sort of thing is going to continue.
nuckinfutz
macrumors 603
That's not true. Most posts that i've seen complain about no major feature in iOS yet never mention what's missing until you prod them more and some say Widgets and Toggles. LOL. Not major at all
I'll be the first to say that iOS doesn't contain any "knock you out of your seat" changes. It doesn't need to. Android and iOS have grown up nicely and now many of the new features are really just polish and in some cases fluff.
If I'm on iOS and I enjoy it ...I'm not worried about Android. If I'm on Android and I'm happy with it ..iOS 6 isn't likely going to want to make me switch.
Yawn?
Am I boring you? If I am, feel free not to read my post, thanks.🙄
But maybe they could've redesigned the 5 1/2 year old interface that has stayed almost exactly the same since it's release.
Or maybe they could redo the multitasking to make it a much better experience than it is now.
Do you really believe iOS 6 is a major update? The "new" features it brought should've been in iOS 4 years ago.
blackhand1001
macrumors 68030
Just want people to know that project butter really is everything they promised. Its so smooth on my nexus. Not even on a custom ROM. This is the 100% stock experience.
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Kariya
macrumors 68000
People should stop whining and wake up to the fact that Apple wont be doing a shock UI ovehaul. Because thats bad for UX.
The changed will come gradually and slowly the same way it has been on OS X. We've lost brushed metal, fonts have changed and there's very little Aqua left in the current version of OS X.
In iOS icons have been updated, buttons changed, colours altered, apps have been redesigned.
If you're looking for a Microsoft/Android style overhaul then you're in for continual disappointment and i suggest you join those platforms instead. Those interfaces NEEDED to be revamped...Apple's interface is tried and tested and millions of average consumers are used to it. This is why there won't be any sudden/shock changes.
Besides, its not like iOS 6 looks exactly like iOS 1. There have been subtle differences with each revision.
Even in iOS 6 there have been subtle changes. The Music and Phone app have undergone UI changes.
The changed will come gradually and slowly the same way it has been on OS X. We've lost brushed metal, fonts have changed and there's very little Aqua left in the current version of OS X.
In iOS icons have been updated, buttons changed, colours altered, apps have been redesigned.
If you're looking for a Microsoft/Android style overhaul then you're in for continual disappointment and i suggest you join those platforms instead. Those interfaces NEEDED to be revamped...Apple's interface is tried and tested and millions of average consumers are used to it. This is why there won't be any sudden/shock changes.
Besides, its not like iOS 6 looks exactly like iOS 1. There have been subtle differences with each revision.
Even in iOS 6 there have been subtle changes. The Music and Phone app have undergone UI changes.
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onthecouchagain
macrumors 604
I can't wait to get the jelly bean update on my nexus. I'm most excited about the new keyboard. I really didn't think we'd see jelly bean until winter time as was usual in the past. This is a very early treat and it looks delicious. does it live up to the swiftkey hype?
Technarchy
macrumors 604
I find it hilarious that club android has to shout from the hilltops that android is running smooth.
Somehow I don't see Apple ever adding a "smoothness" feature...