Is there any update to a possible release date for the new one? I know this is probably a common experience, but I have an ipad mini 1 where I can't install Kindle app. I have a cochlear implant and they recommended using audiobooks and books at the same time for rehab purposes. So this weekend I ended up ordering Ipad 6 from amazon at 249. Stupidly, I did not check the buyers guide here until after the fact! I don't know if I should return it and wait a month for the latest one, and just use my XS Max in the meantime.
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iPad iPad 10.2" prediction: Face ID, 2200x1536 screen, 3 GB RAM, $429
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Is there any update to a possible release date for the new one? I know this is probably a common experience, but I have an ipad mini 1 where I can't install Kindle app. I have a cochlear implant and they recommended using audiobooks and books at the same time for rehab purposes. So this weekend I ended up ordering Ipad 6 from amazon at 249. Stupidly, I did not check the buyers guide here until after the fact! I don't know if I should return it and wait a month for the latest one, and just use my XS Max in the meantime.
At the earliest, it would probably be after the new iPhones are released in September.
Thanks. I think I’ll hang onto this one for a couple more weeks before deciding. I don’t mind paying an extra $80 or so for something better but hopefully the price point will be $349 or less.
You’re assuming they will release a iPad Pro with 6gb of ram and 128gb of storage ...
I’m assuming it will have 6 GB. I’m not so sure it it will start at 128 GB as well, but I’m hoping for that, if they keep pricing the same.
https://iphone.appleinsider.com/art...d-with-dual-lens-shooter-to-launch-in-october
Interesting...only two months to go
Interesting...only two months to go
Seriously, who really gives a crap about camera arrays on the back of giant iPads? Apple is really losing the plot.
Haven't you seen the grandmas at zoos and festivals taking pix of their kids with their iPads?
Also, when I rented out my house for a video shoot, the location scouts and production assistants were taking photos with their iPads too.
Kuo previously said:
"We believe that 3D modelling captured by ToF and then edited by an Apple Pencil on an iPad will create an all-new productivity experience for design applications in a totally different manner from computers."
Perhaps the updated iPad Pro coming this fall or early next year will have better cameras for design applications that use AR.
Bloomberg states new iPad Pros are coming this year with a new camera system and of course, new SoC. Also that new A13 line of SoCs will be gaining an “AMX” matrix co-processor.
Also, it states that after the 10.2” iPads are released, the 9.7” size will be discontinued. 10.2” will be the new entry level.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ad-pro-16-inch-macbook-pro-airpods-3-features
Also, it states that after the 10.2” iPads are released, the 9.7” size will be discontinued. 10.2” will be the new entry level.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ad-pro-16-inch-macbook-pro-airpods-3-features
I was taking the 10.2" iPad rumors as pretty likely at this point, but didn't even think about the FaceID issue. I have a very hard time believing that the iPad Air will have a home button and the iPad will have FaceID. FaceID would make more sense coming to the Air first and then the base iPad, or at least both simultaneously. Apple finally got the iPad lineup back to a place that more mirrors the Mac lineup. (mini, base, Air, Pro) It would be silly for them to go backwards less than a year later and muddy the waters again. They'd be cannibalizing a model they released not even a year ago.
The iPad Air 3 may just be a short-lived interim product. It would seem likely that Apple wants all the iPads to be Face ID eventually. The Air 3 would be a last hurrah for Touch ID.
I find it telling that the XR has Face ID and has a bigger screen with more on-screen data than the XS, and also has the Zoomed Display feature that the XS is missing, yet costs much, much less than the XS.
Putting Face ID on the 10.2” iPad just would be a continuation of the trickle down of Face ID that began with the XR.
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The difference is: there is no more expensive iPhone that doesn’t have FaceID. As long as the Air-line doesn’t have it, I’d say there is a zero chance of the base iPad getting it. Unless they kill off the Air 3 or update it at the same time. Both seek highly, highly unlikely to me. It makes much more sense for this new iPad to be the last one with Touch ID. Then the Air 4 will get FaceID in 2020 and the base iPad in 2021.
Nah.
This is ancient history, but nonetheless it sticks out in my mind, and is a relevant precedent. I had a 2001 12" iBook G3 600, but I found it too slow, mainly because it did not have AltiVec. Plus it only had USB 1 and combo drive. I desperately wanted a 12" iBook G4 with USB 2 and SuperDrive. In November of 2002, Apple released a PowerBook G4 1 GHz Titanium 15" with SuperDrive, but only with USB 1. At the same time, Apple launched another iBook G3 again with USB 1, and with combo drive.
I was disappointed I didn't get my 12" iBook G4 USB 2 with SuperDrive. However, I needed that G4 with SuperDrive, so I bought the 15" G4 with USB 1.
Just two months later, Apple launched a smaller and cheaper 12" PowerBook G4 with USB 2, as well as a 17" model. This 12" was my perfect machine, but I was stuck with this USB 1 model, in the 15" size I didn't want. Furthermore, Apple didn't update the 15" to USB 2 until 9 months later.
This new 10.5" iPad Air could be the 15" G4 PowerBook Titanium of 2019, the last hurrah with a legacy interface component (Touch ID), while newer cheaper models get a more advanced feature (Face ID).
However, a 10.2" iPad with Face ID would get generation 1 Face ID. Generation 2 Face ID would be limited to the 2019 iPad Pros.
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A 10.2” iPad looks like a great addition for everyone who doesn’t want to pay the premium for the Pro models. Great for kids as well at such a low price.
Might get one for the kids to fight over.
Might get one for the kids to fight over.
I'm not sure how relevant it is to compare 2001 Apple with 2019 Apple. Not remotely the same company.
But hey, neither of us know the truth. We'll see in a couple of months. I'd be very pleasantly surprised if they add Face ID to a ~ 350 dollar product.
I just did some Geekbench 4 CPU benchmarks on my iPhone 7 Plus with Apple A10 SoC.
3569/6066: A10 full speed mode
1871/3204: A10 low battery mode
I find the speed of the 7 Plus very reasonable in full speed mode with only occasional slowdowns and lag. However, I find the 7 Plus sometimes just outright slow when in low battery mode. It definitely is usable in low battery mode but the lower performance is often quite noticeable.
The low battery mode of A10 is roughly about as fast as the Apple A8 in the iPad mini 4. A8X in the iPad Air 2 sometimes would feel noticeably faster though, since it has a third core. With 2 GB RAM however, both can suffer from a fair number of Safari tab reloads, which happens much less frequently on my 3 GB iPhone 7 Plus and especially my 4 GB iPad Pro 10.5”.
A 2019 iPad 10.2” with 3 GB RAM and A12 (which is almost twice as fast as A10) would be a very good mainstream performer for quite some time. It’s a good match, like in the iPhone XR, a much lower cost iPhone than the 2018 A12 flagship.
At one point I might have thought they would decrease the CPU clock speed of a 10.2” iPad’s A12 from 2.5 GHz to say 2.4 GHz, but a year later I don’t think that’s necessary because yields would be good. In fact, Apple could even do the opposite, and slightly increase the A12 clock speed like they did with A8 in the mini 4, although I’m not predicting this.
Given the occasional slowdowns with A10 now, I don’t really see them using A10 in a new 10.2” iPad. Yes I know the iPod touch just got upgraded with A10 in 2019 but that a different class of product at a different price point too.
Performance wise I think A11 would be the minimum, but overall I think A12 makes more sense. However, a lower budget A12 iPad release would work best from a marketing perspective only after the iPhone is upgraded in A13, but that time is fast approaching... next week on September 10, 2019.
As mentioned before though, I personally won’t be buying this model. I’ll be buying an 11” iPad Pro with 6 GB RAM and hopefully 128 GB storage.
3569/6066: A10 full speed mode
1871/3204: A10 low battery mode
I find the speed of the 7 Plus very reasonable in full speed mode with only occasional slowdowns and lag. However, I find the 7 Plus sometimes just outright slow when in low battery mode. It definitely is usable in low battery mode but the lower performance is often quite noticeable.
The low battery mode of A10 is roughly about as fast as the Apple A8 in the iPad mini 4. A8X in the iPad Air 2 sometimes would feel noticeably faster though, since it has a third core. With 2 GB RAM however, both can suffer from a fair number of Safari tab reloads, which happens much less frequently on my 3 GB iPhone 7 Plus and especially my 4 GB iPad Pro 10.5”.
A 2019 iPad 10.2” with 3 GB RAM and A12 (which is almost twice as fast as A10) would be a very good mainstream performer for quite some time. It’s a good match, like in the iPhone XR, a much lower cost iPhone than the 2018 A12 flagship.
At one point I might have thought they would decrease the CPU clock speed of a 10.2” iPad’s A12 from 2.5 GHz to say 2.4 GHz, but a year later I don’t think that’s necessary because yields would be good. In fact, Apple could even do the opposite, and slightly increase the A12 clock speed like they did with A8 in the mini 4, although I’m not predicting this.
Given the occasional slowdowns with A10 now, I don’t really see them using A10 in a new 10.2” iPad. Yes I know the iPod touch just got upgraded with A10 in 2019 but that a different class of product at a different price point too.
Performance wise I think A11 would be the minimum, but overall I think A12 makes more sense. However, a lower budget A12 iPad release would work best from a marketing perspective only after the iPhone is upgraded in A13, but that time is fast approaching... next week on September 10, 2019.
As mentioned before though, I personally won’t be buying this model. I’ll be buying an 11” iPad Pro with 6 GB RAM and hopefully 128 GB storage.