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Furman

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Upgrading from an Air2. Don’t mind the wait. Like I’ve said before, age has taught me to not be in a hurry for things. “Live the questions.”
 
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Keysersozeh

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Unless the delay swayed a buyer to a Chromebook, I don't think they care one way or the other...as long as you end up buying an iPad from them.

That’s a great point, just makes for a head scratcher to announce something to leave people hanging or often seeking another solution when they get tired of waiting.

They did still get my money..
 
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mr_jomo

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Any confirmation of the 2018 Smart Keyboard/cover fits the 2020 Air? (Camera position looks right but Apple isn’t against moving things a millimeter off just to break accessory compatibility).
Just checked Apple.com - the smartfolio keyboard is listed as compatible with both the 11 inch Pro and 10.9 Air 4.
 

rui no onna

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I usually do enough research to know if a product is for me before I even buy it! ?

Seriously though, I don't think I've ever returned a purchase.
There's research and then there's using a product day in and day out and getting fed up with all the little annoyances.

First few weeks with the 6+, I was like "The battery is so awesome, I'm sure I can get used to the size". By the second month, I was already cursing it and was absolutely ready to go smaller. ?

That said, I think the only time I returned an iPad was when I got one that was DOA.
 

confusedpurple

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Given the new A14 chip is being made by 1 plant, and they've just announced iPhones using it I'd imagine part of this drawn out delay is to give them a bit more buffer time to get as many manufactured to meet demand for both devices over the holidays.
 
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urbanslaughter1997

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I just want to go into a store and buy my iPad Air 4, my new Apple Pencil, and the magic keyboard all at once. Just let me know when I'm going to be able to do that Apple!
 

Herrpod

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Does it really take more than 2 weeks to decide if you want to keep something though?
Are you asking me if 2 months isn't a better timeframe in which to judge the viability of a piece of hardware? It is. It most definitely is.
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I’m inclined to think they’ll just release it on Friday with no heads up and that’s according to Prosser but with his track record, god knows. If it’s not out by Friday, then I’m just gonna assume apple will release it on the 31st just to piss us all off.
His track record is he's right 78 percent of the time. That's a good track record.
 

joeblow7777

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There's research and then there's using a product day in and day out and getting fed up with all the little annoyances.

First few weeks with the 6+, I was like "The battery is so awesome, I'm sure I can get used to the size". By the second month, I was already cursing it and was absolutely ready to go smaller. ?

That said, I think the only time I returned an iPad was when I got one that was DOA.
Are you asking me if 2 months isn't a better timeframe in which to judge the viability of a piece of hardware? It is. It most definitely is.
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His track record is he's right 78 percent of the time. That's a good track record.

Fair enough. For me personally I just can't think of anything I'm going to discover in 2 months that I didn't discover in 2 weeks. If we're talking about a defect of some sort that only becomes apparent later, that's what the warranty/AppleCare is for. If it's just a matter of me deciding if I like something or not, a couple of weeks is plenty.

The only reason they extend it to 2 months during the holidays is because you might buy something as a gift for someone in October or November, so they don't actually use it until several weeks later.
 
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joeblow7777

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Given the new A14 chip is being made by 1 plant, and they've just announced iPhones using it I'd imagine part of this drawn out delay is to give them a bit more buffer time to get as many manufactured to meet demand for both devices over the holidays.

We do have to keep in mind that there hasn't actually been any delay as far as we know. Apple said "October". We may have hoped or even expected early or mid-October, but that's on us. We can't say there's been a delay unless it's still not available on November 1st. That being said, Apple obviously knew their own production situation when they announced the Air 4 last month. If it does end up being delayed (and I don't think it will be) it's really odd that they couldn't anticipate a problem just a month away.
 

Perry Barhydt

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That's where I'm at now. I have a 7th gen 32GB right now, and I needed more space so was thinking about getting the 128GB 8th gen for $429. What's that? For $170 more I can get the much faster and upgraded new iPad Air? I have to do that! Wait...that's only 64GB, so I'll have to get the 256GB for $750. But for only $50 more I can get the iPad Pro 11" in 128GB, which is perfect for me! Wait a second...
Yeah been there done that
 

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cappers

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Does anyone know if the iPad Air 2020 supports external drives/flash drives like the Pro?
 

I-Bot

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Does anyone know if the iPad Air 2020 supports external drives/flash drives like the Pro?

I don’t see why not, USB-C has way more functionality then just for charging, even when they were on Lightning, storage accessories were made specifically for lightning so USB-C should work with other accessories.


This whole Apple not talking about an Air 4 release date now has me wondering, do y’all remember when Mark Gurman tweeted last week that Apple Stores have begun receiving shipments to be opened at a later date which he said were not iPhone because it’s too early for them, if they are not iPads either cause they should be launched soon if they are, then what is in these mysterious shipments?
 

satchmo

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We do have to keep in mind that there hasn't actually been any delay as far as we know. Apple said "October". We may have hoped or even expected early or mid-October, but that's on us. We can't say there's been a delay unless it's still not available on November 1st. That being said, Apple obviously knew their own production situation when they announced the Air 4 last month. If it does end up being delayed (and I don't think it will be) it's really odd that they couldn't anticipate a problem just a month away.

Yes, and they could have tempered expectations by saying either early, mid or late October.

Unless they still don’t know at this point, but you’d expect Mr. “Logistics” Cook, to have narrowed it down to the exact day.
 
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MistrSynistr

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I still can't believe this wasn't announced for sale after the event yesterday. lol. What is going on here?
 

FrumpyGus

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I don’t see why not, USB-C has way more functionality then just for charging, even when they were on Lightning, storage accessories were made specifically for lightning so USB-C should work with other accessories.

I think all we know is that the new Air USB-C jack supports up to 5Gbps transfer speed. I don't believe they mentioned if it supports powering external drives the same as the Pro (the Pro can power or even reverse charge up to 7.5W...but it also supports up to 10Gbps transfer speeds)
 

FrumpyGus

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We do have to keep in mind that there hasn't actually been any delay as far as we know. Apple said "October". We may have hoped or even expected early or mid-October, but that's on us. We can't say there's been a delay unless it's still not available on November 1st. That being said, Apple obviously knew their own production situation when they announced the Air 4 last month. If it does end up being delayed (and I don't think it will be) it's really odd that they couldn't anticipate a problem just a month away.
Yeah, but since they are making their own chip, they don't have these leaks about production issues or shipping delays. And who knows if the A14 doesn't have something possibly flawed about it...I mean, honestly no one has had one or experienced the products. Remember, the old keynotes used to introduce the products and have working demos for everyone to play and experience...no one has seen these products outside of the videos. The news on the Apple T2 security flaw shows how terrible it can be to have a an Apple silicone to have an unpatchable flaw in it. Just saying, it's maybe a long shot, but it could happen.
 

Broadus

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I’m inclined to think they’ll just release it on Friday with no heads up and that’s according to Prosser but with his track record, god knows. If it’s not out by Friday, then I’m just gonna assume apple will release it on the 31st just to piss us all off.

But did Apple say “October 2020”? ?
 

I-Bot

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For those wondering, this is the tweet I was talking about from last week that Mark Gurman tweeted, we still don’t know what those mysterious shipments are. It’d be kinda funny if it was just iPhone 11, iPhone SE, etc, in the new packaging without the power adapter and EarPods.
 
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