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I'm interested to try it. Remember, before the iPhone came out there were tons of people saying typing on a touchscreen would never work or would be an awful experience. It seems to have done alright though.

I remember when the Mac came out all the commentators in the big computer mags of the day like "Byte" where saying Mouse driven GUI wasn't a practical way to interact with a computer, it was slower than using key combinations.

There is a significant part of the population that simply can't grasp a new idea, until it is a proven old idea. If they had been around in pre-history they would have dismissed the wheel as pointless/not for them/too much work to build/not as strong as a log roller...
 
Seriously? why not just get a 13 inch MB or MBP? A regular desktop OS on that small of a screen just seems like the biggest fault of it. And the keyboard? I guess I don't get it.

From http://blogs.zdnet.com/computers/?p=316

Then came the actual tests. How’s this for a list of “cons” for a netbook that starts at $900 from PC Magazine’s review:

Underpowered. Bloated with software. Three-cell battery yields only 2 hours of battery life. Needs another price adjustment.


Admittedly that review was from a while ago, but I still say that the screen size is just beyond pointless. The battery life at best is a claimed 7.5 hours with the extended battery that is an extra. Also, more expensive to start than the top end of the iPad pricing.

The iPad, for all its limitations, has a longer battery life, a bigger and more usable screen, and in all likelihood better performance for its applications. Multitasking is not exactly something I expect to be doing with either device.

Hey thanks, I already have a 15" MBP for thoroughbred work. I need something light that doesn't take up too much space and is still very functional (lighter work), but can send and receive info just the same. The Macbook is still a little too large and heavy for my tastes. It would almost be the same as carrying my pro around. You are right about the screen on the Vaio. It's doable but not as pleasurable as I would like, I think. I wish the ipad had video conferencing available but hey. So thanks, I have decided that I am going to stay loyal. ipad . . here I come. :D :apple:

Completely agree with people who see the camera there. There is definitely some kind of dot right in the middle of the screen. Perhaps this is the "surprise" for the first people to get an iPad that Apple mentioned.

Hold on . . are you serious? I'm going to do a backflip. See ya!

Does it make any sense to put a camera behind a display that your fingers and fingerprints are going to be all over most of the time?

On a laptop maybe, a touch screen- no.

Repeat after me: There is no camera on the iPad.

Spoil the fun why dontcha ! :D
 
There is a significant part of the population that simply can't grasp a new idea, until it is a proven old idea. If they had been around in pre-history they would have dismissed the wheel as pointless/not for them/too much work to build/not as strong as a log roller...

Sheesh!!! People and their no-good useless fancy log rollers... WTF's wrong with stone rollers, buddy?!? :mad:

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Meanwhile, Steve Jobs is said to be spotted at the Oscars tonight as well. Confirmed by another attendant:
While "attendant" is technically proper here, it's much more commonly used in cases of it's first definition.

attendant |əˈtendənt|
noun
1 a person employed to provide a service to the public in a particular place : a flight attendant | a gas station attendant. • an assistant to an important person; a servant or courtier.
2 a person who is present at an event, meeting, or function : he had become a regular attendant at chapel.

I'd suggest attendee, instead.
 
There is a significant part of the population that simply can't grasp a new idea, until it is a proven old idea.

I think it's a good idea, but since I'm not one to buy new revisions of the same product every time Apple releases one, I've learned to wait until at least the second generation of any Apple product before pouncing.
 
What a tablet is has never been established and formalized.

True. But "tablet" computers have been around for a long time, and there's a common feature set that's sufficiently universal that we can call it a working definition.

Tablet computers have a stylus and a pen-oriented interface; they run either a modified version of a desktop operating system (in the 90s and early 2000s) or a full, unmodified version (nowadays). In addition, they're most often ruggedized, made of high-impact plastics to resist the wear and tear of the environments in which they're used.

The iPad has no stylus support in either hardware or software, it runs an expanded phone operating system and it's made of glass and aluminum and is not at all rugged.

But really, you just have to look at the uses people have for tablet computers today, and imagine trying to replace those tablet computers with iPads. It'd be awkward at best, and impossible at worst. There's no way to sign your name on an iPad, just to name one seemingly trivial example.

Again, nobody knows whether the iPad is going to succeed or not. I like the idea of one, and may buy one to use around the house for reading and surfing, but I think I'd like to try one in person before deciding. But Apple's intention is to make it a new type of device, and I think it's fair to judge it on those merits, not on the merits of an entirely different class of device.
 
Only if it's useable. In it's current state, and from how we've seen Apple develop touch OS devices, it won't.

You mean the benchmark for all other touch devices?

If this is supposed to take the place of a computer at some point it's going to need to make up a lot of ground in features.

As clearly stated by Steve Jobs himself, it's not meant to take the place of a computer. It's a device category that sits between computers and smart phones.

Not a basher at all. I actually enjoy, use and appreciate Apple Tech. There are those, who seemingly intelligent and full of "matter of fact" statements blindly drink from the grail of Jobs. The good news is..... there's help and an app for that.

;)

Of course most opinions tend to be offered as facts here. At least some disguise their inflammatory ramblings as informed opinion.
 
But really, you just have to look at the uses people have for tablet computers today, and imagine trying to replace those tablet computers with iPads. It'd be awkward at best, and impossible at worst. There's no way to sign your name on an iPad, just to name one seemingly trivial example.

Why not? It seems somewhat doable with my finger on the iPhone; on something the size of the iPad it seems like it would work provided the "signature space" is sufficiently large. If not, then that's when you'd use a capacitive stylus (not sure what you mean by "no stylus support")
 
Only if it's useable. In it's current state, and from how we've seen Apple develop touch OS devices, it won't. If this is supposed to take the place of a computer at some point it's going to need to make up a lot of ground in features.

To replace the computer it will need a few more revisions. With music, movies, software, and games moving to a digital downloads these types of devices will replace computers. Don't forget cloud computing. Having said that, I see this as the future and I like it. I have a few friends who only use their iPhones for their internet now. Most people who aren't computer/tech Geeks(put me on that Geek list) don't need all the extras a computer has. Most people I know just want email and the web. If Apple could throw in a way to print web pages with ease on multiple printers, I would throw out my laptop tomorrow. (don't worry it's not a mac). I prefer to have the iMac on the desk the iPad to carry around the house and iPhone for everything else.
RIP the Personal Computer....
 
You simply need to go to the store and try one. They are brutally slow.

They are slow to startup I admit, but once your logged on completely, it's fine. The main problem for me is lack of Microsoft office for the ipad. How on earth do they expect people to do without that? Leaving a camera off of a device is one thing but if the device is meant for productivity, office is a must, not a "maybe if we get around to it type of thing." Microsoft needs to just make the thing and stop playing games. These actions are reminiscent of Adobe's childish ways with the whole not wanting to create flash compatibility for the iphone. If your making money, do it. Unless of course you are just trying to hinder the competition.
 
The main problem for me is lack of Microsoft office for the ipad. How on earth do they expect people to do without that?

There is no reason we won't see Office on it eventually. It's basically a new platform, and it's not even out yet. Microsoft has already said they'd consider an iPad version of Office.
 
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he's got that weird "just as much hair on my face as on my head" thing going.

Not as weird as the asian next to him.

Must have dozed off and missed the ad.

I did see the big ones - Bullock, Bigelow, Hurt Locker. I wonder how many of those Technical awards went to Avatar / Coraline / Star Trek / UP / Hurt Locker. Hurt Locker has six and Avatar has three from the Oscars last night.
 
I like what Steve Jobs did with his hair. Very stylish.

Who's that bald buy standing next to him with the beard?
 

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There is no reason we won't see Office on it eventually. It's basically a new platform, and it's not even out yet. Microsoft has already said they'd consider an iPad version of Office.

I hear ya, but we heard the same spiel from Adobe, to still be longing for Flash on iphone four years later. Who wants to wait and hope everyday that their device will someday be as useful as it should already be when purchased? Honestly, that's the main thing hindering my decision in getting one. I always have to be able to work, simple as that, and I'm betting that goes for many.
 
i believe apple is "saving" some big news come april 3.. i believe the front facing camera that many consumers are upset that is not included on the ipad will actually sit behind the LED screen as discovered by apple's recent patent approval last year. since the OS is said to contain "video" and "picture" taking button graphics in the dev kits of the ipad shown in the screens below, it just seems unlikely that it won't have a camera, because of all the evidence! you know?

Apple files a lot of patents, many of which never make it into a product. Also, the software option could be for future vers. 2 functionality, or anticipating a possible 3rd-party camera that attaches to the dock connector. Could be any number of things. I doubt it is what you're saying, such an innovative feature would have been surfaced at the presentation.
 
I just did a google image search and can't find a picture of jobs in a turtleneck. All I see are black tshirts. Anyone have a pic of him in a turtleneck? Why does everyone keep saying all he wears are turtlenecks?

They are mock turtlenecks, not t-shirts, not turtlenecks.;)
 
I hear ya, but we heard the same spiel from Adobe, to still be longing for Flash on iphone four years later. Who wants to wait and hope everyday that their device will someday be as useful as it should already be when purchased? Honestly, that's the main thing hindering my decision in getting one. I always have to be able to work, simple as that, and I'm betting that goes for many.

Except in a some specific instances, iWork does relatively well with Office document compatibility. I know several people who use it every day with no problems in work environments. I'd imagine it would be similar on the iPad.
 
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