iPad Pro iPad Pro Blooming discussion [merged]

[hammie14]

I feel you. I’d probably return it too if I was in the same boat, especially since the issue developed after the restore.

I’m wondering if there was a screen calibration that got wiped by the DFU restore. It would be interesting to see a picture of your iPad next to another freshly unboxed one to see if there is a variation in the backlight.

Yeah i wish i could do that, but then compared to my wife’s 2018 this thing looks amazing. Colours and detail is so much more better. Here is a compare of ours when it was going the 14.6 update.

Honestly I think I’m just being picky and I have a feeling Apple are going to be able to tweak something and make this problem a lot less of an issue. iPadOS 14.7b2 don’t make any difference but I’m hoping iPadOS 15b1 does!

 

[pdoherty]

the blooming effect is absolutely noticeable with a jacked eyes. Set you Home Screen background to pure black color. And then add just one app icon to a space. Then start dragging the icon around. I see about 1.5-2 centimeters of blooming around the icon. The brightness is set almost to the bare minimum.

What are “a jacked eyes”, and why is creating an effect by doing things you’ll never do on the device a useful test?

 

[pdoherty]

Personally I think people are too picky, sure there are visible dimming zones, but they're not really a big deal unless you decide to make them a big deal.

right? Amazing these people ever owned and were satisfied by any previous iPad.

 

[profcutter]

This is my image of my iPad Pro, and I posted about it in a different topic, My iPad only started blooming badly like that after i did a DFU iOS restore on my iPad (due to other problems!). My iPad was not as bad before this and i even commented when i first got it that blooming was no where near as bad people where making out, but after the restore its much worse.

Before the DFU restore the zones high-lighted red would not of been on / or would definitely be a lower brightness.

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Yeah, I think the grid graphic is quite helpful. I’d agree, it looks like 16 boxes lit instead of what I think should be 4.

 

[Pouria81]

I’m feeling the same here. I absolutely love the new display but it’s a shame that it blooms in some rare scenarios. However I agree that it’s something solvable through software update. Now even if they somehow fail to make the dimming zones more precise, they can still lit it uniformly like the previous generation. This is something that you can actually observe if you take a screenshot where you see the grey cloud/haze effect. When you view the screenshot exactly there on the iPad itself, you’ll see that the effect is nearly diminished and that’s because the screenshot turns the true blacks into slightly grayish tones. So this proves that solving blooming is actually something obtainable if Apple listens and tries.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Some of these pictures are ugggly. they should have went OLED

 

[grmlin]

If they can't reduce the zone size they should just not shut off the other leds in extreme scenarios like a 10x10px sized white dot in the middle of the screen...
Everything else is fantastic already, screen looks absolutely beautiful.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

If they can't reduce the zone size they should just not shut off the other leds in extreme scenarios like a 10x10px sized white dot in the middle of the screen...
Everything else is fantastic already, screen looks absolutely beautiful.

Some would say they would prefer having ALL the leds on all the time. Because then you get a niiiice even shade of gray like the good ol’ days!

 

[grmlin]

Some would say they would prefer having ALL the leds on all the time. Because then you get a niiiice even shade of gray like the good ol’ days!

lol yes. I mean, I understand that it can be a little distracting in certain situations (said white dot on a black screen in a pitch black room). But these situations are so scarce that I don't really care

 

[Mcckoe]

lol yes. I mean, I understand that it can be a little distracting in certain situations (said white dot on a black screen in a pitch black room). But these situations are so scarce that I don't really care

Because the iPad Pro is a touchscreen device, i often see finger prints and smudges that cause way more worrisome issues; than these nit-picking complaints about: blooming, that only seem to occur under the covers of a moonless sky.

 

[briko]

Because the iPad Pro is a touchscreen device, i often see finger prints and smudges that cause way more worrisome issues; than these nit-picking complaints about: blooming, that only seem to occur under the covers of a moonless sky.

Just curious if you’ve seen this image? Don’t you think some of the led zones that are “on” should be “off” instead? Apparently this is only happening to some iPads.

 

[Pouria81]

Just curious if you’ve seen this image? Don’t you think some of the led zones that are “on” should be “off” instead? Apparently this is only happening to some iPads.

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This is what I see on mine and I think others should also be able to see it too. However, it’s only visible in pitch dark room and with your eyes adjusted to the darkness (you won’t see it right away). I don’t think it’s limited to some iPads, I think it’s a matter of eyesight and whether you‘ve been in the environment to be able to recreate it.

 

[Bpmd]

Some good news for those of us cursed with imaginary eyes that see fictional things on absolutely perfect displays:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/nv1ste

 

[briko]

Some good news for those of us cursed with imaginary eyes that see fictional things on absolutely perfect displays:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ipad/comments/nv1ste

Thank goodness! The update looks soooo much better. I know plenty of people will continue to pretend that the issue never existed, but I’m just glad that it’s getting resolved so we can all start enjoying these beautiful new displays.

 

[grmlin]

Awesome!!! I always thought they could improve the local dimming even more

 

[Pouria81]

I just upgraded to iPadOS 15 and I’m not seeing any major improvements for blooming. See in the picture for yourself, the blooming/halo area is still quite large with 10% brightness in a pitch dark room. (Ignore the fuzziness and slightly blueish tint, it’s just because of the low light)

 

[Pouria81]

Here’s another example, maybe it’s just a bit more controlled but in a very dark room, it can still be very noticeable.

 

[slplss]

Here’s another example, maybe it’s just a bit more controlled but in a very dark room, it can still be very noticeable.

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Yup this is what I see in pitch black room on iOS14, with the zones maybe a bit less rounded?
I don’t think anybody needs true blacks in Timer, Apple should just keep the background at the lowest brightness.
Edit: Looks like the OP on Reddit forgot the lock exposure, so the comparison is for the most part irrelevant.
My advice for now is, if anyone’s thinks blooming is an issue and still wants to keep their XDR, just don’t torture yourself going to Timer/Notes etc. in a pitch black room and you should be fine 😉. Even having a single candle on your table will mostly fix this issue.

 

[Lategamer]

Just got my iPad Pro 12.9 2021 and .... honestly I think this is the best screen I have ever owned.

I've been re-watching some 4K HDR titles on the iPad and the blacks are ...well...black. Not a "light black" like in my 2020 iPad 12.9 but black black.

The Matrix looks amazing on it.

 

[Sparxxx]

Hi guys. I bought my 12.9 Ipad one week ago and I was impressed with it until yesterday when I watched my first movie on it (Wrath of Man).
The Ipad is going back. The Mini Led tech is a joke on dark scenes in a dark room.
Either Apple implemented it wrong or my screen is faulty but the blooming was soooooo bad… like what you see on most pictures posted here.
Dark scenes were almost unwatchable… My 2012 Sony LCD looks better.
Sure, colors, HDR are amazing but the blooming is atrocious!
Not sure what exactly happens but instead of lightning single LEDs I could clearly see entire zones (and not small ones) lightning up. Garbage screen.

 

[Corallus]

So if this pad has 2500 dimming zones, that would make roughly 58x43 separate zones.
But each of the images where it's horribly viewable and wide, it looks like it's dimming at 3-4x the size it's supposed to.
I'm wondering if some apps UI is using scaling and the mini LED array isn't taking the scaling into account, for example what if the app is native on iPhone, and scales to iPad resolution, but the mini led array is using the source as the dimming map.

 

[Freida]

Of course it can be software issue if more zones are lit for no reason. That is purely a software thing so if that is the case it can be fixed. The picture clearly shows that the light bleed goes way too far for it to be correct and because the zones are controlled by the software then this can be fixed.

Blooming will always happen as that is the 'issue' with this tech but this is way too much.

Oh no need to worry "A software update" will fix it for sure. 🤣

 

[dohspc]

Blooming is definitely noticeable in 14.6 when in a dark room or outside when it’s dark if you have the brightness turned up all the way which is how I like it. Even then it’s only noticeable if you’re looking at something like the timer app that has a black background with white text. The screen great in lighted conditions and brighter than the 2018 12.9. For me I’m really enjoying that this iPad has faster WiFi, 5G, M1, and 16GB of ram so it is what it is with this screen technology if you want everything else. Should Apple have gone to OLED? Yup but they probably would have not been able to source OLED 12.9 screens in great numbers right now. I have a feeling the next 12.9 will be OLED.

 

[UBS28]

This is what I see on mine and I think others should also be able to see it too. However, it’s only visible in pitch dark room and with your eyes adjusted to the darkness (you won’t see it right away). I don’t think it’s limited to some iPads, I think it’s a matter of eyesight and whether you‘ve been in the environment to be able to recreate it.

I have this too in pitch black on my iPad Pro.

But outside of this, the display is gorgeous however. So not sure if I should make a big deal out of it.

It has even perfect white uniform.

 

[prospervic]

How does an onion look on it?