Yes they do and it's the most stupid thing i have ever seen in terms of local dimming algorithm.
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Yes they do and it's the most stupid thing i have ever seen in terms of local dimming algorithm.
I've just took delivery of my 1tb 12.9 after a month wait from o2 in UK, and this panel is the most beautiful display I've ever seen. Now, after reading this thread for a while I waited until light got low, cranked up the brightness and took some pics.
Worth noting I guess, my 12.9 came with ipadOS 14.6 out the box, not sure if that means anything massive but could be a better software with dimming, I dunno.
You can see very minimal bloom around the Apple logo, to me it just looks like a haze from very contrasting brightness.
Just drawing on notes I see a bit of glow, but nothing like what I've seen on this thread, I have edited a version of this pic to show the dimming I'm getting, and it looks nothing like what I've seen so far.
If you zoom in, you can see a glow around the lines, and around menu writing, but it's what I'd call perfectly acceptable.
I don't really know what else to add, except I don't doubt people have the issue, but I certainly don't.
Worth noting I guess, my 12.9 came with ipadOS 14.6 out the box, not sure if that means anything massive but could be a better software with dimming, I dunno.
You can see very minimal bloom around the Apple logo, to me it just looks like a haze from very contrasting brightness.
Just drawing on notes I see a bit of glow, but nothing like what I've seen on this thread, I have edited a version of this pic to show the dimming I'm getting, and it looks nothing like what I've seen so far.
If you zoom in, you can see a glow around the lines, and around menu writing, but it's what I'd call perfectly acceptable.
I don't really know what else to add, except I don't doubt people have the issue, but I certainly don't.
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Just got my new iPad today. Tried to see the blooming people are talking about and I can barely notice it. I am running 14.7 beta. Not sure if there were issues that have been fixed in software or if taking a photo of the iPad screen makes it look way worse than it is. Regardless I can hardly tell. The screen looks perfect to me.
It's a stunning display isn't it.
Mine was like this before i did a full DFU restore (due to other problems nothing to do with blooming) and after that my display got worse, but its liveable i was going to return it but decided to keep it as I don’t really use my iPad in a completely dark room so don’t really notice it!
OK I have to take this back slightly. I didn’t notice anything in the Kindle app when using dark mode. And didn’t notice in the notes app or Twitter which I always use in dark mode. But I watched a video in the TV app and noticed it in the corners where the time/date and status bar info is. I keep my screen brightness pretty low so it doesn’t really bother me and certainly not enough to return my iPad. I love everything else about it.
If I crank up the brightness in low light then I’m also not able to see the large grey bloomings cause the contrast is so high at that brightness. Those larger bloomings that you see in this discussion are very subtle greys that u can only see (very noticeably) if u leave ur iPad on auto brightness and let your eyes adjust to the dark because as I just said those are very close to black grays (subtle and low contrast). However I don’t know if all eyes can adjust to the same degree, but I personally don’t see much annoying blooming until my eyes actually adjust properly to the dark.
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Your case is interesting and it keeps a bit of hope in me cause you’re saying that a change in software was able to change blooming for you (in a bad way). So it means that the degree of blooming is upto the software and it can get better if Apple tries. So it’s not really hardcoded and unchangable.
I used the iPad for controlling a smart telescope (awesome gadget by the way) and the dimming zones are very visible like shown in my photo which was not a long exposure one. While I can get used to it, it takes away the magic once associated with an iPad device because it screams into your eyes "I am just made using man made technology with flaws like eveybody else. Get over it!". A little bit exaggerated, I know, but just like the Apple ads.
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Mine has those bouncy lines floating over it, too! I hope Apple’s able to do something about that.
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The dimming zones aren’t smooth like that. There’s a pic earlier in the thread that shows how angular and large the dimming zones are (much larger than what’s shown on your image). This pic looks more like the result of the smooth glow you see with any bright pixels adjacent to dark pixels when captured by the camera (just like how the bouncy lines were captured by the camera).
That appears to be motion blur, not bloom. Look at the battery/wifi items top-right and the clock top-left.
I’m sure you don’t see these lines when using your eyes.
Are the dimming zones real? Yes, as shown in images earlier in this thread and other images that show sharp square outlines around bright objects.
Is it difficult to get a good picture of the dimming zones? Absolutely, because the natural glow of a “bright near dark” image will make it difficult to capture. But you CAN capture a picture of it. Most of the images that really show it well have been taken from up close. I have no doubt that, with a little more work, you’d be able to capture a good image of it, because it IS a problem for some people.
It’s just that this particular image captures more the natural blooming of light/dark than it does the dimming zones.
The second image shows unnecessary zones being lit. I hope that will get tweaked by iPad OS update.
I have those blooming issues too from the first image but in most scenarios, I don't see it as I don't have black background with white stuff.
I have those blooming issues too from the first image but in most scenarios, I don't see it as I don't have black background with white stuff.
From what I’ve read, it’s been described as having to control two separate screens simultaneously. I wonder if this initial iteration was more to focus on the bright parts of the dimming panel matching the LCD and future iterations will be able to change the dimming zones faster and more in line with the areas being lit. It’ll never be perfect, but my guess is that it can be better than it is.The second image shows unnecessary zones being lit. I hope that will get tweaked by iPad OS update.
I have those blooming issues too from the first image but in most scenarios, I don't see it as I don't have black background with white stuff.
I watched some Ted Lasso (great show btw) in my bed bed in complete darkness yesterday, and it’s simply not an issue using it like that. I set the brightness down to minimum in complete darkness and blooming is minimal. It still gets plenty bright because of HDR.
I’m happy if they reduce the zone size in a future update, but the screen already is glorious at it is
I’m happy if they reduce the zone size in a future update, but the screen already is glorious at it is
You seem skilled in camera use. And that's the problem with a lot of this - unskilled camera users take a picture on auto settings in complete darkness and they get the expected - poor - picture results. Yours are more accurate.
I am on my third iPad Pro after returning the first 2.
The battery seemed bad on the first. The second one‘s colour was slightly muted and I thought it was third time lucky on this but the bloom is really noticeable. In hindsight the first one had an amazing screen and I didn’t understand what everyone was on about.
So it’s possibly hardware related. The screen really pops on this one but it might be going back ?
The battery seemed bad on the first. The second one‘s colour was slightly muted and I thought it was third time lucky on this but the bloom is really noticeable. In hindsight the first one had an amazing screen and I didn’t understand what everyone was on about.
So it’s possibly hardware related. The screen really pops on this one but it might be going back ?
I just got my iPad Pro 12.9 256gb Cellular M1
The blooming is here no question. But it’s only visible under certain conditions. The only time i really notice it is while using the watch app. And to some lesser degree with very low ambient light i can see a light glow around the time and date position. But it’s better than the previous ipad‘s. Further i could keep the brightness full power 24/7 without being afraid of burn in.
maybe if you actually bothered to use your ipad you would see the blooming. the problem is not that people cant ignore the blooming. its that people are lying about it and saying its non existent. If its non existent, then i guess i must be living in my own dimension huh? i own the 2021 12.9 ipad and i can see the blooming clearly. dont lie.
wrong. youre the one who first made the assertion that the ios 14.5.1 fixed the blooming (which it doesnt). Youre the one making claims.