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LFC2020

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maybe if you actually bothered to use your ipad you would see the blooming. the problem is not that people cant ignore the blooming. its that people are lying about it and saying its non existent. If its non existent, then i guess i must be living in my own dimension huh? i own the 2021 12.9 ipad and i can see the blooming clearly. dont lie.
Using it right now, screen looks amazing. ?? dark mode on, brightness between 30%-40% not seeing any blooming. ?‍♂️

Normal use case, blooming is a non issue, way overblown.

If you’re not happy with it, return it.
 
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VaruLV

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So, I picked up my base line 12.9 M1 with 5G(the "cheapest" one available for delivery without 4-8 week lead time) and I could clearly see blooming in dimly lit room(overcast, cloudy evening, Youtube video on pause, fullscreen, all black image, nothing else but UI/controls) and screen brigthness being at 100%.
Am I bothered by it? Not sure, I knew what Im getting and, since Macbook Pro models coming this autumn are supposedly to get the same tech, they will have blooming too to some extent anyway, so those are limitations of this tech at the moment. Im more concerned about longevity of this tech and the blooming, at least after first <1h doesnt seem to be that much of an issue. I mean, its either M1 12.9 with mini led or 2020 12.9 for not that much cheaper or smaller 11" M1 which would be too small for me to get by until refreshed MBPs get released late autumn.

On a side note, got used to 12.9" size almost immediatelly and now it doesnt seem so big anymore :-D !
 
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Serban55

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People these days , buy devices to test them and look for issues, for free, instead of using them for work
The display is a step above from the former ipads
 
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Sparxxx

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People these days , buy devices to test them and look for issues, for free, instead of using them for work
The display is a step above from the former ipads

No, it’s just a little bit better than last generation.
It’s more Apple being cheap and not going OLED.
Mini Led is just something to buy 2-3 more years before they implement OLED or go Micro Led.
If they put this Mini Led into the Mac Pros with the current blooming issues it will be a disaster.
Actually it’s not even blooming, it’s faulty mini led implementation (hardware or software) because to many zones light up than it should.
 

Serban55

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Oled for content creat and video is a joke compare with mini-led and with micro-led
Only the flickering from oled is a childish joke to start from..lets not talk about brightness and blue pixels that fades away after around 520 hours

mini-led has just a little issue with blooming while last gen lcd panels or oled has 3-4 bigger issues
Apple will never implement oled in their ipad pro or pro displays. They are not stupid. Oled are on their tops, they cannot go far better than this, while mini-led and micro-led are on their beginning, the sky is the limit
No wonders apple offers oled n the devices that you use them a lot less with on display, like iphones and apple watch
 
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grmlin

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No, it’s just a little bit better than last generation.
It’s more Apple being cheap and not going OLED.
Mini Led is just something to buy 2-3 more years before they implement OLED or go Micro Led.
If they put this Mini Led into the Mac Pros with the current blooming issues it will be a disaster.
Actually it’s not even blooming, it’s faulty mini led implementation (hardware or software) because to many zones light up than it should.
Oh I’m sure it would have been a lot cheaper if they had used an OLED instead lol
 

Rogifan

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This is the Kindle app on my iPP. Not quite as bad IRL but definitely noticeable. I’m running the latest public beta. Has it been determined that this is a display issue one nothing can be done via software to correct?

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VaruLV

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This is the Kindle app on my iPP. Not quite as bad IRL but definitely noticeable. I’m running the latest public beta. Has it been determined that this is a display issue one nothing can be done via software to correct?

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According to Apple "youre holding it wrong" lol :D !
Seriously, its how their miniLED tech works in this iPad. Blooming and edge shadowing are clearly visible on mine regardless what others are trying to imply on these boards.
I hope that they release some software updates to lessen blooming to some extent, because at times its too visible and Im quite sure that to some level blooming can be minimized, at worst they can add some sort of slider under display section to adjust for how bright "inactive" dimming zones will be, to some extent making miniLED in certain scenarious work the same as regular LED's without local dimming.
 
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Unregistered 4U

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This is the Kindle app on my iPP. Not quite as bad IRL but definitely noticeable. I’m running the latest public beta. Has it been determined that this is a display issue one nothing can be done via software to correct?

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The actual “blooming” areas are FAR larger than the smoothly transitioning light falloff hugging closely to the space around the letters. They’re big blocky squares (each square of four LED’s are all lit to the same luminance level). Like this:

https://forums.macrumors.com/attachments/capture-png.1798822/

Try this instead, bring up the same screen BUT cover the 10 with a piece of thick cardboard just large enough to obscure the 10. If you still see a halo around the cardboard, that’s the LED’s. If you don’t see a halo around the cardboard, that was the glow captured by your camera.
 
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UBS28

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Who cares? Yes, there is blooming if you use it in a pitch black room, but the quality of the display far outweighs this.

The display is a huge upgrade. And yes, it is even better than the “supposedly superior” OLED display on my iPhone.

Now Apple did mess up their mini-LED implementation because Samsung their high-end QLED mini-LED display doesn’t have this type of blooming issue with far less diming zones.
 

Sparxxx

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This is the Kindle app on my iPP. Not quite as bad IRL but definitely noticeable. I’m running the latest public beta. Has it been determined that this is a display issue one nothing can be done via software to correct?

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Looks horrible! Would return it in a heartbeat.
If this is progress than Apple can and will get away with anything.
 
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Rafterman

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This is the Kindle app on my iPP. Not quite as bad IRL but definitely noticeable. I’m running the latest public beta. Has it been determined that this is a display issue one nothing can be done via software to correct?

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Good book. I am a huge 20th century history guy. I have over 1,500 Kindle books, most of them history.
 
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grmlin

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Looks horrible! Would return it in a heartbeat.
If this is progress than Apple can and will get away with anything.
Who reads a book like that? The display is great and better than everything you could buy in an iPad before. It’s also much better than most OLEDs in everything else than searching for dimming zones and blooming
 

Rogifan

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Who reads a book like that? The display is great and better than everything you could buy in an iPad before. It’s also much better than most OLEDs in everything else than searching for dimming zones and blooming
I read like that in bed when the room is dark. Or if I’m reading on my patio at night and it’s starting to get dark out. I posted this because initially I said I wasn’t seeing any blooming at all. It’s definitely there. Though I use Twitter in dark mode (lights out theme) and don’t notice any blooming at all.
 

Rogifan

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Looks horrible! Would return it in a heartbeat.
If this is progress than Apple can and will get away with anything.
At certain angles it‘s hardly noticeable but it’s definitely there. Also I use Twitter in dark mode and don’t notice blooming at all.
 

grmlin

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I read like that in bed when the room is dark. Or if I’m reading on my patio at night and it’s starting to get dark out. I posted this because initially I said I wasn’t seeing any blooming at all. It’s definitely there. Though I use Twitter in dark mode (lights out theme) and don’t notice any blooming at all.
while I like dark modes that would be way too tiring for my eyes. Didn’t mean to offend you.

I see the blooming, too, of course, but luckily it’s very rare in how I use the iPad
 

Rogifan

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while I like dark modes that would be way too tiring for my eyes. Didn’t mean to offend you.

I see the blooming, too, of course, but luckily it’s very rare in how I use the iPad
No problem. It actually doesn’t bother me. I actually prefer dark mode in most apps.
 

aevan

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No, it’s just a little bit better than last generation.
It’s more Apple being cheap and not going OLED.

Neither of these two claims is true.

The screen is a big upgrade compared to the previous one. Like any technology, it has upsides and downsides, and yes the “shadows” on the borders and the occasional blooming are these downsides. I have a big OLED TV and in several ways it is better than the new iPad Pro’s screen. But, also, in several ways it is worse. I would probably not want my TV to be Mini LED and I would not want my iPad to be OLED, because they are used in different ways.

Apple is also not being cheap, because the technology they are using is certainly not cheaper and the R&D is a lot more expensive. In fact, putting an OLED on their iPads would’ve been the cheaper option for them.
 

galliofly

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No, it’s just a little bit better than last generation.
It’s more Apple being cheap and not going OLED.
Mini Led is just something to buy 2-3 more years before they implement OLED or go Micro Led.
If they put this Mini Led into the Mac Pros with the current blooming issues it will be a disaster.
Actually it’s not even blooming, it’s faulty mini led implementation (hardware or software) because to many zones light up than it should.
I don’t think OLED gets bright enough to convey HDR convincingly and the technology has plenty of it’s own drawbacks. As for Micro LED it would be far too expensive also I don’t think people are in denial about blooming there may be a variance between panels with some being worse than others.In my case there is a night and day improvement compared to the previous Ipad and blooming is minimal at best.
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mackieap

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Popped into my local Apple Store (Stratford London) yesterday for my first look at the 12.9" iPad Pro. I see what people mean about the 'blooming' ... playing the Star Wars movie clip in the TV app, right at the end when the big SW logo comes up on the black background, there was a noticeable glowing effect.

Other than that though, the screen is superb and a significant step up from my 2020 11" Pro, which has slightly darker top-right and bottom-right corners. As did the 2021 11" Pro on display in the store!

I wouldn't hesitate to get this screen when it comes to the 11" (if).
 
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