iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 11 hugely better RAM performance than the Pro models on iOS 13.0

[I7guy]

Ah yes changing the subject. I guess your screen recorder is broken? Maybe its just refreshing lol. It's ok to admit that 4 gigs of ram in a "pro" device leads to a ****** experience. Imagine the most expensive phone on the market can't even keep your place.

Changing the subject because yours is bogus. I don’t use my phone whereby my primary use case is opening apps and nothing more.

So my “pro” experience is stellar and I don’t have to “prove” it.

And using your logic a $1000 phone should have 5 years of support.

 

[Khedron]

This is an extreme test but it shows how maybe just 2 more Gb of Ram would help, I really hope they do that for the 2020 iPhones:

Android is faster despite Apple's CPU power.

iOS memory efficiency is a lie. Apple are just cheap.

 

[I7guy]

Android is a genuine OS not a stripped-down Apple subscription delivery mechanism.

Android uses RAM to deliver true multitasking such as split screen and widgets.

iOS is the same grid of uninformative static icons it was 12 years ago. Only now with iPadOS is Apple learning how to support some restricted widgets in restricted locations with restricted functionality.

iOS RAM management is a fraud. It constantly closes your apps and hopes you don't notice so long as it shows you a screenshot of the last open state.

I happen to like my grid of i informative static icons. I don’t have to fiddle with them as in android.

And since I spend my $$$ the way I see fit, I’ll take iOS every day every time. YMMV.
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Android is faster despite Apple's CPU power.

iOS memory efficiency is a lie. Apple are just cheap.

Needed so much ram in the nite just to keep up with the iPhone. Of course doing some real work like encoding videos the note lost on an order of magnitude to the iPhone.

 

[SteveJobs2.0]

Optimization can only do so much. Look, I moved up from an IPhone X to 11 Pro and the Pro does feel laggy. Especially so in the camera app.

 

[boomer11]

Changing the subject because yours is bogus. I don’t use my phone whereby my primary use case is opening apps and nothing more.

So my “pro” experience is stellar and I don’t have to “prove” it.

And using your logic a $1000 phone should have 5 years of support.

you couldn't "prove it" if you tried. you're apps are too busy reloading lol.

 

[boomer11]

I don’t understand why this seems to be such a personal thing to you.

Most people don’t notice and/or don’t care.

If it’s such a problem, get the tool that does what you want it to do.
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Well how can you claim to be a pro without such things as Spotify or YouTube?

/s in case it wasn’t obvious

personal? its just fun to see apple apologist make all kinds of excuses why their 1100+ phone can't keep apps in memory. which so far has come down to "it doesnt matter! i only use an app once a day anyways!" just admit the a13 chip is clearly hindered by the lack of ram. tough to swallow i know

and yeah you're right. how can a phone be "pro" when it cant keep its place in spotify or youtube. how would it be able to handle real heavy apps like excel, powerpoint or games?

 

[Coffee_Time]

Is it just me who thinks that Apple employees / geniuses have accounts posting in macrumors?
What's wrong in having more RAM? It's nearly 2020 for God's sake.

 

[tps3443]

I watched some YouTube videos showing a Galaxy S10 requiring reloads before a iPhone XS did. This was opening the same apps on each device.

both devices will do this depending on application.

My 11 Pro Max is pretty smooth. And I like it, so why are you hammering everyone over owning a Apple iPhone? You have no right.

I mean, isn’t the CPU in newly released android phones like on par with like a older iPhone 8?

so Android phones have weak processors with a lot of ram, and iPhones have fast processors with optimal ram amount.

apps reloading is the attack of the damn year my god..

 

[I7guy]

Is it just me who thinks that Apple employees / geniuses have accounts posting in macrumors?
What's wrong in having more RAM? It's nearly 2020 for God's sake.

Nothing is wrong with more. Ram, battery life, gas mileage, etc. But it is what it is. Don’t like the phone or pro model designation, don’t buy it. The value per dollar isnt there for you don’t buy it.

 

[I7guy]

you couldn't "prove it" if you tried. you're apps are too busy reloading lol.

That could be or not. But it’s not worth it to go through the effort of disproving it based what is in these posts. Frankly I don’t care what others think. The iPhone 11 pro and max are great phones.

Don’t think so, don’t buy it. We’ll find out how the reception was at the quarterly earnings.

 

[Drak3]

What's wrong in having more RAM? It's nearly 2020 for God's sake.

More RAM costs more and requires more power. Phones have a more limited power budget than tablets and laptops.

Also, {insert current year} is not a valid argument.

 

[Coffee_Time]

More RAM costs more and requires more power. Phones have a more limited power budget than tablets and laptops.

Also, {insert current year} is not a valid argument.

4 vs 6 gb for example. It doesn't cost not even 1 $. Power difference also is close to 0.

 

[Tsepz]

Would not mind more RAM on my XS Max, although I multitask fine on it, some apps like my banking app are built to reload after a certain period, no matter the platform. But other apps I have found not to really reload that often.

I am on social media (FB, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn and also WhatsApp), look at Emails throughout the day on both Outlook (work Office 365) and GMail, play Music, use Tapatalk, and use Safari to browse the web.

I’ll try do a video in the morning, just need to ensure I don’t show private information (will have to avoid Outlook) etc... of other individuals before I try.

A 4GB RAM iPhone will definitely not keep as many apps as a 12GB Samsung in RAM, but I have to say the 11 Pro Max did a great job in that Speedtest. iOS seems to prioritize apps as it runs out of RAM, had that been a 4GB RAM Android I doubt it would have made them time the iPhone did.

I think I’m the end the point here really is, how much RAM, do YOU really need? If you NEED to have 10-15apps all always ready where you left them at all times, then you are better off with a Note10+, but if you are doing a few 5-10 or even more but do not need every single one at the place you left it every single time, you’ll be happy with the iPhone.

Something that did happen to me on Android was even with 6GB RAM or 8GB RAM there were a few times where Uber simply went MIA and it had to request a new Uber as I had left the app in the background, while with iPhone the Notification System does not seem as dependent on RAM as in Android and so even if the Uber is app #4 and you are opening app #20, the phone will still treat that Notification from Uber as if the app is still open. It’s one of the things I noticed when going between my XS Max, P30 Pro and Galaxy Note 8. Some Androids have a lot of RAM but also very strict RAM management and so you have to setup the phone to be lenient on some apps.

Android with all it’s RAM can get a bit wonky at times when you most need it to work, it’s very weird and happens at odd times though. What helps Apple is the brilliant notification system, that brings up notifications of ANY app even if that app is long closed many days ago, if it gets a notification it immediately pushes it to you, whereas in Android once some apps get closed, everything gets closed, I believe there was recently an issue with some Samsung’s not getting Push from GMail.

In closing, neither iOS or Android has all this fully covered in every way, so one does hit a compromise with either.

 

[Khedron]

I happen to like my grid of i informative static icons. I don’t have to fiddle with them as in android.

And since I spend my $$$ the way I see fit, I’ll take iOS every day every time. YMMV.
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Needed so much ram in the nite just to keep up with the iPhone. Of course doing some real work like encoding videos the note lost on an order of magnitude to the iPhone.

In 2019 iPhones can't get a decent cellular signal but can encode videos. Just what people wanted.

 

[Drak3]

In 2019 iPhones can't get a decent cellular signal

They can when the signal is decent. Both my XR and 11 Pro Max get the same speeds in the same spots as my Note 9 and S8s did. And when my iPhones hit a dead spot, EVERY one of my Android phones, as well as my Windows phone, did too.

 

[I7guy]

In 2019 iPhones can't get a decent cellular signal but can encode videos. Just what people wanted.

Same as the Xs. Just admit you don’t know what people want and how their service is. Just a generalization along with hyperbole.

 

[Strelok]

I gotta say I do notice it a lot if I take pictures. I just took a couple and Safari gave the error it had to reload and discord also had to reload. It’s not the end of the world but it is noticeable. I’ll probably be upgrading again next year so it shouldn’t be too much of an issue. Maybe Apple can make it a bit better with an update.

 

[penajmz]

I feel like my Xs Max has better at managing load than the 11 pro max. My apps close more often now.

 

[Wide opeN]

This could be one of those things where this phone is not remembered fondly due to being underpowered.

Think iPhone 6

 

[tps3443]

Would not mind more RAM on my XS Max, although I multitask fine on it, some apps like my banking app are built to reload after a certain period, no matter the platform. But other apps I have found not to really reload that often.

I am on social media (FB, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn and also WhatsApp), look at Emails throughout the day on both Outlook (work Office 365) and GMail, play Music, use Tapatalk, and use Safari to browse the web.

I’ll try do a video in the morning, just need to ensure I don’t show private information (will have to avoid Outlook) etc... of other individuals before I try.

A 4GB RAM iPhone will definitely not keep as many apps as a 12GB Samsung in RAM, but I have to say the 11 Pro Max did a great job in that Speedtest. iOS seems to prioritize apps as it runs out of RAM, had that been a 4GB RAM Android I doubt it would have made them time the iPhone did.

I think I’m the end the point here really is, how much RAM, do YOU really need? If you NEED to have 10-15apps all always ready where you left them at all times, then you are better off with a Note10+, but if you are doing a few 5-10 or even more but do not need every single one at the place you left it every single time, you’ll be happy with the iPhone.

Something that did happen to me on Android was even with 6GB RAM or 8GB RAM there were a few times where Uber simply went MIA and it had to request a new Uber as I had left the app in the background, while with iPhone the Notification System does not seem as dependent on RAM as in Android and so even if the Uber is app #4 and you are opening app #20, the phone will still treat that Notification from Uber as if the app is still open. It’s one of the things I noticed when going between my XS Max, P30 Pro and Galaxy Note 8. Some Androids have a lot of RAM but also very strict RAM management and so you have to setup the phone to be lenient on some apps.

Android with all it’s RAM can get a bit wonky at times when you most need it to work, it’s very weird and happens at odd times though. What helps Apple is the brilliant notification system, that brings up notifications of ANY app even if that app is long closed many days ago, if it gets a notification it immediately pushes it to you, whereas in Android once some apps get closed, everything gets closed, I believe there was recently an issue with some Samsung’s not getting Push from GMail.

In closing, neither iOS or Android has all this fully covered in every way, so one does hit a compromise with either.

you said it so well. Great job. These threads get very heated at times. Some want to slam the other for not being in 100% agreement with them. And we all each like our devices, and cannot always convey that that to one another.

 

[Timothy Leo Crowley]

You win the silly post of the year.

Why?

Seriously. Why?

 

[Khedron]

Same as the Xs. Just admit you don’t know what people want and how their service is. Just a generalization along with hyperbole.

Apple used to "just work"

Now people are basing their purchase decision on the specific chips used because they can't trust Apple any more

 

[ericwn]

This could be one of those things where this phone is not remembered fondly due to being underpowered.

Think iPhone 6

The 6 will be remembered as the most sold iPhone generation of all time. It is to this day. So much for underpowered.

 

[Applefan4]

Yeah. If RAM was as huge an issue as people are making it out to be, the XR wouldn't have been the popular choice of last generation.

You realize that most 'mainstream' consumers are absolute idiots, right?

 

[Abazigal]

Android is a genuine OS not a stripped-down Apple subscription delivery mechanism.

Android uses RAM to deliver true multitasking such as split screen and widgets.

iOS is the same grid of uninformative static icons it was 12 years ago. Only now with iPadOS is Apple learning how to support some restricted widgets in restricted locations with restricted functionality.

iOS RAM management is a fraud. It constantly closes your apps and hopes you don't notice so long as it shows you a screenshot of the last open state.

Does the term “genuine OS” even have any meaning here? I mean, I use my iPad at work every day and prefer it over my windows laptop. My computing needs aren’t that complex, and in this regard, I actually prefer the simplicity and fluidity of iOS.