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Just seen another thread to do with a reasonably cheap unlocked 3gs

http://www.handtec.co.uk/section.php/158/1/apple-iphone

I have quickly sent them an email asking if I buy 3 to 5 in one go do I qualify for any kind of discount.

And £490 for a Belgian iPhone + £60 Eurostar is about the same price as these for £563 just a shame they have no stock.

I was trying to get a 32GB from italy which would had cost the same (iphone + DHL).

how reliable is this site? i know they are taken pre orders but i prefer to buy instead of them holding on to my money.
 
I was trying to get a 32GB from italy which would had cost the same (iphone + DHL).

how reliable is this site? i know they are taken pre orders but i prefer to buy instead of them holding on to my money.

They seem pretty legit after doing a quick google, I will see what they say about any group discounts and take it from there.

Have you heard anything back from your Italian office yet?
 
They seem pretty legit after doing a quick google, I will see what they say about any group discounts and take it from there.

Have you heard anything back from your Italian office yet?

i'm good for a black 32gb. but i'm willing to wait until in stock.

Well done for sorting this... if you can. dont feel pressured in doing so. please let me know if i can do anything.

My contact in italy has not responded yet, which when he does, i dont think i will uses him because it does not take a day to respond to an e-mail.

I'm asking around the office to see if anyone knows a reliable Italian, will keep you posted.
 
Just seen another thread to do with a reasonably cheap unlocked 3gs

http://www.handtec.co.uk/section.php/158/1/apple-iphone

I have quickly sent them an email asking if I buy 3 to 5 in one go do I qualify for any kind of discount.

And £490 for a Belgian iPhone + £60 Eurostar is about the same price as these for £563 just a shame they have no stock.

To be honest the price is too good to be true, The price of the 32GB is even cheaper than apple.it price (742 euro)!. Though the site look legit. Also they say it is sim free, however they don't say if it is factory unlocked. It is very likely the same as factory unlocked, but then...i really don't know. I don't mind waiting, however i want a guarantee that the phone will be factory unlocked. What to do you think guys?

Also inf, did you get the iphone ?
 
i'm good for a black 32gb. but i'm willing to wait until in stock.

Well done for sorting this... if you can. dont feel pressured in doing so. please let me know if i can do anything.

My contact in italy has not responded yet, which when he does, i dont think i will uses him because it does not take a day to respond to an e-mail.

I'm asking around the office to see if anyone knows a reliable Italian, will keep you posted.

I will keep you posted and like you I won't even think about ordering unless they have any in stock.. shame you cannot find out how many preorders they have taken.
 
Just had a quick thought if this site is indeed legit could we order through our relevant companies and claim back the VAT??

£490 for a 16gb unlocked seems like a good deal if possible!
 
yes i have been ringing around a couple of the stockists said that they would ring me if any supply showed up
;)

They won't call - Belgium is much better than UK in a lot of areas, but customer care absolutely not, in this they are in the dark ages

I never ever rely on Belgian companies to call me back - why? Well because they just don't... Of course there are exceptions, but I tend to fall off my chair in suprise when this happens.

I put my name on the Mobistar list, did they call me? Did they f***
 
oh guys my post about www.handtect.co.uk is everywhere now lol

As I wrote in the another thread, let's all bomb them by mails, they might work hard to get a stock with same price when they find many requests :D
 
Also inf, did you get the iphone ?

At the end yes I did ::D

It was a bit of hassle to find the package from the office because it had been given to our internal mail dudes, so I had to run around the building to find the guy delivering our internal mail, because my work hours ended at four and i wanted the phone with me.

It charging right now =)
 
Why Belgium?

Bugger - mine got cancelled earlier this morning too! Was supposed to be delivery of 2-3rd. :(

But I'll keep trying.

Question.
How much are the Iphone 3 G S in Belgium compared to Italy? Are they much cheaper than in italy?

What is availability currently like in Italy?
 
One guy in Finland ordered 3GS 32GB to Italy. He has a friend there and thus used a real Italian address with real names and stuff.

Billing address - of course - was still in Finland. And he paid with a Finnish credit card.

Result: Order was cancelled.

I truly think Apple is now checking orders more carefully and if they see that an order was made with a foreign credit card / billing details, they will cancel it.

There's almost no chance getting an order through anymore.

But in a month or two.. the situation might be different.

I despise Finland (where I live) at the moment. We can get _all_ and I mean ALL phones unlocked on the market. iPhone is the only exception. I curse Apple! ;)
 
a) It is still against the law to lock GSM"s in Belgium
b) The law was changed in May to allow cross-subsidisation of certain ranges of devices, including GSM handsets
c) The rationale behind this law is to push further the penetration of technology to the populations
d) Previously the operators have been forbidden by Belgian law to sell any products below cost price -> hence the higher end handsets remain out of most people's acceptable price bracket
e) Low end 3G's do not encourage use - compare the experience on a standard Nokia handset with Vodafone Live versus an iPhone, right, there is no comparison, one sucks the other does its job
f) Experience on the switch from a non-subsidised to subsidised market in Finland (same as what Belgium is about to go through) showed that locking of devices is counter-productive
g) Experience on the French market is that locking drives down sales
h) The operators don't want subidisation, the handset manufacturers do
i) No operator in Belgium is ready yet to bring offers to market, what we see right now is the indirect sales (like Phone House) doing some Mickey-Mouse offers
j) People think that getting an iPhone for free and a locked-in contract for two years is a good deal, it's not, you pay far more

What planet are you on?

Everything you said is NOT TRUE.

The Belgium laws were struck down because of 2 cases went all the way to the European Court of Justice and Belgium lost both cases: one case is about a Belgium gas company was bundling "3 weeks of free towing insurance" when you buy gas to fill your car and the second case is about a Belgium magazine company was bundling coupons for discount for women's lingerie in their magazines. This is a country where bundling tennis balls with tennis rackets is illegal.

It has NOTHING to do with mobile phones. The rationale behind the strucking down of the law is that a million things will get cheaper in Belgium when they allow bundling. You geeks who live at home with your parents, who doesn't pay for food, who doesn't pay for rent, who doesn't pay for anything --- would worry about your mobile phone getting more expensive with contract bundling.
 
Not the Jesus phone but the Devil's phone

Wow reading this thread for the last couple of days has really cheered me up for making that decision to go to Belgium last Friday. People at work thought I was mad.

It's really funny cos when the Mobistar seller said he only had 3 white 16gig 3GS left, I was frowning asking him to help me call other shops to see if they had the 32gig in stock.

Just glad i took it while I can.

P.S the compass via google maps is awesome :D
 
Bugger - mine got cancelled earlier this morning too! Was supposed to be delivery of 2-3rd. :(

But I'll keep trying.

Question.
How much are the Iphone 3 G S in Belgium compared to Italy? Are they much cheaper than in italy?

What is availability currently like in Italy?

I got mine for 719€ (32GB) from Italy. From what I read on this thread it is 675€ in Belgium but I might be wrong.
 
It's really funny cos when the Mobistar seller said he only had 3 white 16gig 3GS left, I was frowning asking him to help me call other shops to see if they had the 32gig in stock.

Odd. I know the black look a bit better being black, and the white ones get grubby quick, but don't you think the white ones are instantly recognisable as new Iphones - and look cooler?

I saw a white on on a music vid the other day and bang ... oh look an Iphone - if it were black, it wouldn't even register!

Mind you, I love to be different and thats why I like the white Iphone! What do you think now NWLL? Has the white grown on you?

Back to topic.
I asked before ... how much are the Iphones in Belgium compared to italy? Are stocks low in both countries?

What other countries do unlocked iphones, that will get released soon?

Also ... now what? Do we all need a short trip to get an Iphone? I'm still waiting for my passport to be delivered - it ran out the end of May - Doh!
 
Response from www.handtec.co.uk

Hi Dale,

Firstly i would like to say that you would be looking at a lead time 2 weeks before you take receipt of the Iphones.
This is due to a back log of orders and a small supply which is trickling in.

Discount will not be rewarded on this order and we would insist that you place your order today if you wish to be placed on a pre-order as the prices i am aware of will be going up tomorrow.


Kind Regards


Mark Ally

They sound a bit pushy!!
 
Response from www.handtec.co.uk

Hi Dale,

Firstly i would like to say that you would be looking at a lead time 2 weeks before you take receipt of the Iphones.
This is due to a back log of orders and a small supply which is trickling in.

Discount will not be rewarded on this order and we would insist that you place your order today if you wish to be placed on a pre-order as the prices i am aware of will be going up tomorrow.


Kind Regards


Mark Ally

They sound a bit pushy!!

Hi, i can confirm that. I emailed them, contacted them through online support and called their customer support number;

1) factory unlocked iphone 3gs
2) 1 year apple warranty, however, will need to send it back to them for repair.
3) 2 weeks to shipment

seemed legitimate, just ordered two black 3gs. Now i am crossing my fingers
 
Hi, i can confirm that. I emailed them, contacted them through online support and called their customer support number;

1) factory unlocked iphone 3gs
2) 1 year apple warranty, however, will need to send it back to them for repair.
3) 2 weeks to shipment

seemed legitimate, just ordered two black 3gs. Now i am crossing my fingers

Cool I am debating about ordering the 32gb one and being rather cheeky claiming vat back on it to say I use it through work.
 
Odd. I know the black look a bit better being black, and the white ones get grubby quick, but don't you think the white ones are instantly recognisable as new Iphones - and look cooler?

I saw a white on on a music vid the other day and bang ... oh look an Iphone - if it were black, it wouldn't even register!

Mind you, I love to be different and thats why I like the white Iphone! What do you think now NWLL? Has the white grown on you?

Yep it has definitely grown on me, it does look new and shinny and i tend to get second glances from people when I bring it out to listen to music on the tube.

32gig 3gs in Italy 719 euros
32gig 3gs in Belgium 675 euros
 
Order Update

On my first order in the italian Apple store i put the billing address as being in Italy also and the order came back cancelled after about half hour,
I put in another order with the same addresses but in the billing address changed the country to Portugal (wich is where my card is billed) and the order is as "non ancora spedito" (processing or something) after 5 hours, guess I'll wait till tomorrow morning to see if it updates.....
Wish me luck!
 
i did it!

hey all,

i took the plunge, and ordered a 32gb from handtec. lets hope i don't get screwed.

At the end of the day, i could had got it 50 pounds cheaper in italy... but i sent too long on trying to get one.

hopefully, this will be the end of it.

if anyone gets theirs from handtec... please let us know.

Duck
 
Feck, my order shows as cancelled too!

Looks like I will getting one on a trip to Bruges (at end of July), providing they are in stock.

I'll do the usual and ring round and try to get one reserved, but given the advice on legendary Belgian customer service, will probably try pot luck over the weekend I am there.

Sahajesh
 
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