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iPhone 6 - Welcome to 2012?
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Read the thread. Who is provoking who???
This is OUR place to discuss Apple alternatives. I like Apple's tablets, not their smartphones.
Why come here and bash android? One does't like android phones, fine then and move along. It took us awhile to get one person who preferred an iPhone outta here, thank goodness he realized he isn't doing himself any favors constantly praising his iphone and bashing androids.
All I'm gonna say is one of my friends has a S5, every time he opens his app drawer and swipes right, it stutters. Why should a device with "hardware 4x faster" than the iPhone 5s' lag and stutter when the 5s never does?
I have another friend with the note 3 and same situation on there is true with the app drawer. And whenever he opens a game there will be a solid 2 second delay before anything happens and then the screen stutters and rotates and then start the game. Again, the 5s with "2010" hardware never stutters. I'm pretty sure this lag when opening a game happens on every android device where nothing happens for a second or two. Think of it this way, if you were to put a 600hp engine in the fiesta st, the best fwd hatchback, it won't make it any better. Simply because of the fact the chassis is not optimized to handle the power. Same thing applies with a phone. You can throw all the power at it but it won't be any better unless it's optimized properly.
People who say android never lags are just lying. It does. It's a fact. No matter how fast the hardware is on paper, it doesn't matter if it's not optimized.
I have another friend with the note 3 and same situation on there is true with the app drawer. And whenever he opens a game there will be a solid 2 second delay before anything happens and then the screen stutters and rotates and then start the game. Again, the 5s with "2010" hardware never stutters. I'm pretty sure this lag when opening a game happens on every android device where nothing happens for a second or two. Think of it this way, if you were to put a 600hp engine in the fiesta st, the best fwd hatchback, it won't make it any better. Simply because of the fact the chassis is not optimized to handle the power. Same thing applies with a phone. You can throw all the power at it but it won't be any better unless it's optimized properly.
People who say android never lags are just lying. It does. It's a fact. No matter how fast the hardware is on paper, it doesn't matter if it's not optimized.
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Both devices you mention run TouchWiz--there's your answer.
Stock Android doesn't lag.
With Android phones, yes. This is why I will upgrade to iPhone 6+.
Bye bye lagging hell and poorly optimized software and apps.Stock android does lag, just not as much as Touchwiz.
Stock doesn't lag in the way they devices used to lag a few years ago but it's still noticeable, albeit much less than they ever have before.
Samsung.
I said a few posts back that Android lag is gone from the new models, yes, but I specifically excluded Samsung. I switched from 5s to LG G2 in March this year. There's no lag, no scroll stutter. I bought a Sony Z1 Compact in July. No lag, no stutter.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S ("octa" core
) couple weeks ago. It stutters. Fixed most of the stutter by installing Nova launcher, now it stutters just a bit more than my iPad Air. Yes iPad Air stutters, try scrolling around in the app store and change screen orientation. Guess what, iPad Air is almost useless to me as Safari is always reloading tabs, and crashed continuously yesterday while trying to watch the Apple live stream yesterday. I will be selling my iPad soon. I will tolerate the Tab S because it doesn't reload browser tabs or crash like the iPad does, plus it has the most gorgeous screen I have ever seen.Samsung.
I said a few posts back that Android lag is gone from the new models, yes, but I specifically excluded Samsung. I switched from 5s to LG G2 in March this year. There's no lag, no scroll stutter. I bought a Sony Z1 Compact in July. No lag, no stutter.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S ("octa" core
I was looking into the G3 because it looks like a great device then I watched a couple of videos from tech blogs and I could visibly see lag when the reviewer was scrolling within the launcher. I'm not talking like 2008 android lag where it took a minute to scroll from homescreen to homescreen, this is like slight stutters than is just annoying enough when you're used to iOS. Sure, it's not terrible but theres no excuse for a device with hardware like that to stutter in the launcher.
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I know touchwiz sucks and is a dog but, there's still lag in vanilla android. Open a game like madden on the N5, the animation doesn't start instantly like the 5s does. It's lag, plain and simple. I'm not talking about android lag from 5 years ago, it's just slight delays within the OS than make it annoying enough to use when you're accustomed to using iOS. There's no excuse for google when the hardware is top of the line. They need to focus on user experience and stability IMO.
That graphic is nothing but misleading. Android has always thrown top specs at their phones dual or quad core CPU's, lots of RAM, yet their phones are crap, and the user experience is even worse. Since at least half a dozen companies make android phones and yet another makes the OS, they phone manufacturers have no idea what the user experience is going to be like, so they through as much hardware at it as they can hoping it will run fast, this results is a different user experience across the board. Where did NFC go? Did Google drive it and make it a success? No, the phone manufacturers just put it out there as another 'feature' without and thought about how to make it work. Along comes Apple some years later with an actual plan and partnerships to make it work, thats the difference. Apple doesn't just throw features into a phone without thinking about how they are going to be used and if they are useful, everyone else just copies them. The features of the iPhone 6 and 6 plus may not be earth shattering but they are a natural progression from the previous model and they work as intended. Spec wars are a waste of time, its about the user experience, how the phone works, more then anything, not how much ram or how many cpu cores that matter.
IMO the M8 is the best android phone with the least amount of lag/stutter and I agree it still stutters sometimes when doing basic tasks.
For me the comparison starts and ends at
iOS vs Android.
I prefer iOS. So all these features that have "been around since 2012" (completely ignoring how they work and are implemented) really don't mean a ton to me. I use Apple for various reasons, none of which has to do with who's spec sheet has bigger numbers....
How many people made mobile contactless payments in 2012? I had a Nexus 4, never once used it. Came across a store that could handle it once in a blue moon....
So you can list these off all you want but there's more to a device than a list of general specs and features.
Ultimately, who gives a crap what your brother or anyone else says. Use what you want to/like to use.
iOS vs Android.
I prefer iOS. So all these features that have "been around since 2012" (completely ignoring how they work and are implemented) really don't mean a ton to me. I use Apple for various reasons, none of which has to do with who's spec sheet has bigger numbers....
How many people made mobile contactless payments in 2012? I had a Nexus 4, never once used it. Came across a store that could handle it once in a blue moon....
So you can list these off all you want but there's more to a device than a list of general specs and features.
Ultimately, who gives a crap what your brother or anyone else says. Use what you want to/like to use.
This. Anyone who denies it is a fanboy, pure and simple. And I'm mostly an Android user myself for the past 3 years!
People who say ios doesn't lag are just lying..
What does safari tab refresh count as?
Every os I have ever used exhibits lag in certain scenarios, windows, OSX, everything
What does safari tab refresh count as?
Every os I have ever used exhibits lag in certain scenarios, windows, OSX, everything
Pretty much or you just don't notice it, in either case, good for you that you feel it's up to your standards.
I like the way your bother's photo picks-and-chooses what to highlight. (I'm an android user, so I feel I can say stuff like this). It's conveniently glossed over the touchID (which is superior to all those in android devices) and the new Apple Pay which is a VERY big deal. When (if?) that comes to android, will Apple fans be saying 'Welcome to 2014' in such a snarky manner?
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I can't speak for the G3, but I couldn't be more pleased with the G2, and the Sony Z1 Compact I had for couple of months (sold it because it lacks the LTE band AT&T needs in my area). I am extremely sensitive to the tiniest stutter, and I know a bit here and there will always be there, even on an iDevice, there's simply none of that that bugs the crap out of me in the G2 and Z1C.
The most jarring thing jumping over to Android is the UI is completely different from one make to another, or even within the same maker (ie the Samsung Tab Pro has settings in different places than the Tab S). It's just the nature of the beast. My favorite Android skin is Sony, then LG, then vanilla Android. Samsung TouchWiz sucks.
I don't need to convince anyone. I keep an open mind and not get stuck on any particular brand. I use my Mac and PC equally. iOS with its endless rows and rows of icons has grown really stale for me. I'm glad the latest Android devices is as smooth as they are now. Some of the things I'm grown accustomed to is simply not possible in iOS, the huge one is the custom LED notification. My wife complained once my phone was blinking too bright in the middle of the night. No problem - I set it to blink at 10% brightness after 11PM, back to full brightness at 6:30AM
In reference to Apple pay: NFC payment has been on Android for the last 2-3 years, maybe even more.
Anyone who used and owned a nexus 4 (I owned it) will tell u it had a horrible camera. And horrible battery life.
In an some aspects. IPhone 4 (2010) vs nexus 4 (2012) is a better comparison. So we can flip the ad and tell nexus 4 "welcome to 2010"
And I am a phone junkie. Owned android 1.0 phone g1 to most of nexus phones and currently own LG G3.
The real issue with android phones is no manufacture has been able to put the entire "package" together despite trying to throw the kitchen sink in terms of specs and usability.
Closest has been HTC One (m8) line. But even that phone has weaker camera.
Samsung is just finally starting to add more premium parts into their phones now.
That's why Apple phones are still very desirable. Apple puts the entire package better than anyone.
In an some aspects. IPhone 4 (2010) vs nexus 4 (2012) is a better comparison. So we can flip the ad and tell nexus 4 "welcome to 2010"
And I am a phone junkie. Owned android 1.0 phone g1 to most of nexus phones and currently own LG G3.
The real issue with android phones is no manufacture has been able to put the entire "package" together despite trying to throw the kitchen sink in terms of specs and usability.
Closest has been HTC One (m8) line. But even that phone has weaker camera.
Samsung is just finally starting to add more premium parts into their phones now.
That's why Apple phones are still very desirable. Apple puts the entire package better than anyone.
Ahh, but unfortunately there have been numerous issues that stunt it's growth.
So while one can say "Mobile Payments" in a graphic like this, it really doesn't give me any information on the actual feature.
Wasn't it just last year that Google got around carriers blocking Google Wallet? Various OEMs with their own different iterations of payments....
Apple has negotiated directly with banks and retailers and is pushing this forward. Also, it won't be a coincidence if contactless payments take off in the US as Apple holds a more than 40% marketshare here.
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