iPhone 6S Plus Destroys Galaxy S7 In Speed Test

[Truefan31]

Let it go man, he answered you over and over and over and over already. Your so-called "simple question" has turned into an interrogation.

So my understanding is that there aren't any features or traits that he feels the iPhone does better in his opinion than his gs7 edge. He keeps it because it's different. Ok then. If that's his feeling so be it. I've received some pretty good clear and concise answers from others so I'm not sure why it had to feel like an interrogation. But if that's his feeling that's fine by me.

 

[Truefan31]

Wow the the a9 really obliterates the Samsung s7. Kudos to Apple, they even put it in their new midrange the iPhone se.

Btw what some posters call variables others call it great engineering .

Maybe Samsung can offer some real competition with the s8, or maybe not. Sales and time will tell.

The a9 is impressive, along with the nvme controller for fast speeds. Honestly though I'm not expecting a huge leap in general with the a10. A modest one maybe if that. The a7 to a8 transition wasn't as much an increase as the a8 to a9 imo. It's odd that the a8x seemed to be an odd man out, being tricore.

Looks like the s7 did have a considerable increase in performance though, especially in its single core performance and gpu. Afaik there aren't many complaining about overall performance. I'd have to imagine sales of the s7 line better be good, there were promos from the beginning and very early BOGO still going on. It'd be disheartening to say the least for Samsung if there wasn't a substantial increase. Not sure how these promos would help their profitability though, depending on their agreements with the carriers.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I'd be interested to see my iPhone 6 up against an S7 as since I have had iOS 9 I have experienced lag and I have never had this on an iPhone before. I just opened tapatalk and the app took several seconds to open once I pressed it. It does it with other apps too.

 

[FFR]

The a9 is impressive, along with the nvme controller for fast speeds. Honestly though I'm not expecting a huge leap in general with the a10. A modest one maybe if that. The a7 to a8 transition wasn't as much an increase as the a8 to a9 imo. It's odd that the a8x seemed to be an odd man out, being tricore.

Looks like the s7 did have a considerable increase in performance though, especially in its single core performance and gpu. Afaik there aren't many complaining about overall performance. I'd have to imagine sales of the s7 line better be good, there were promos from the beginning and very early BOGO still going on. It'd be disheartening to say the least for Samsung if there wasn't a substantial increase. Not sure how these promos would help their profitability though, depending on their agreements with the carriers.

Who do you think pays for the promos?
Samsung does and each one of those promotions, that include but are not limited to bogos, the free vr handset, Netflix subscription, etc. affect Samsung's bottom line when it comes to profitability.

The only figures Samsung officially released is that it sold only 100,000 s7 units in Korea.

That's it.

 

[Truefan31]

Who do you think pays for the promos?
Samsung does and each one of those promotions, that include but are not limited to bogos, the free vr handset, Netflix subscription, etc. affect Samsung's bottom line when it comes to profitability.

The only figures Samsung officially released is that it sold only 100,000 s7 units in Korea.

That's it.

I would think it'd hurt samsungs profitability sure. But again agreements with carriers are a tricky thing. They may not be eating all of it, at least for BOGO. Sometimes carriers bear some of the brunt too. From firsthand experience sometimes the carriers eat a little as well.

Is that number true? I find that hard to believe. I'd think I'd have read that in the Korean newspapers/tv channels my family reads/watches. Still got family over there, I'll ask them too.

 

[FFR]

I would think it'd hurt samsungs profitability sure. But again agreements with carriers are a tricky thing. They may not be eating all of it, at least for BOGO. Sometimes carriers bear some of the brunt too. From firsthand experience sometimes the carriers eat a little as well.

Is that number true? I find that hard to believe. I'd think I'd have read that in the Korean newspapers/tv channels my family reads/watches. Still got family over there, I'll ask them too.

True certain carriers have exceptions depending on the smartphone vendor. Sadly Samsung is not one of them.
One more thing, it is almost unheard of to offer a bogo on a newly launched smartphone. Bogo is a strategy carriers would employ at the end of a phone term, it is used to get rid of inventory. Which again is not common practice for a newly launched phone. either way it's not a good sign for Samsung.


Here you go:

http://m.timesofindia.com/tech/tech...outh-Korea-in-2-days/articleshow/51397141.cms

"More than 100,000 units of Samsung Electronics' Galaxy S7 series smartphones were sold in South Korea within the first two days of its official launch, data showed on Sunday.


Sales of the Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S7 Edge reached a combined 60,000 on Friday and 40,000 on Saturday after the smartphones hit South Korean market on Friday, Yonhap cited the official data as showing."

And the s7 edge accounted for only 40% of those orders.

Those are the only figures that were officially published.

 

[Truefan31]

True certain carriers have exceptions depending on the smartphone vendor. Sadly Samsung is not one of them.
One more thing, it is almost unheard of to offer a bogo on a newly launched smartphone. Bogo is a strategy carriers would employ at the end of a phone term, it is used to get rid of inventory. Which again is not common practice for a newly launched phone. either way it's not a good sign for Samsung.


Here you go:

http://m.timesofindia.com/tech/tech...outh-Korea-in-2-days/articleshow/51397141.cms



And the s7 edge accounted for only 40% of those orders.

Those are the only figures that were officially published.

I see. It says it's on pace as last years s6. Maybe that explains the early promos then.

 

[FFR]

I see. It says it's on pace as last years s6. Maybe that explains the early promos then.

Yup. But the promos a re a double edged sword.
Since it eats away at Samsung's mobiles profits and that they manufacture most of the components at Samsung semiconductor, well let's just say being this vertically integrated can be damaging when your products don't sell.

What is surprising is the s7 edge only accounted for 40% of sales for that period.
Which is a stark contrast to the s6 edge, which was around 65% sales vs the s6.

 

[FFR]

Just wanted to add the iPhone 6s sold 150,000 in under 10 minutes, in South Korea.

Rather glaring that Samsung or the s7 can't even reach those numbers in its first two days of sale in South Korea.

 

[Klyster]

Samsung is doomed. ...lol


Meanwhile while Samsung is being conservative with thier numbers, others are saying sales are up over last year's model, 250% in Europe according to some.

But Samsung hasn't released a statement for European sales so it must be lies right?

Geez, what a doom monger....

 

[I7guy]

So from discussing benchmarks the conversation invariably shifts to sales...lol

 

[nj1266]

Samsung is doomed. ...lol


Meanwhile while Samsung is being conservative with thier numbers, others are saying sales are up over last year's model, 250% in Europe according to some.

But Samsung hasn't released a statement for European sales so it must be lies right?

Geez, what a doom monger....

I just want to know where you got that 250% increase in sales from? Do you have a link?

 

[Klyster]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3960964-galaxy-s7-bringing-samsung-back-growth

http://www.androidauthority.com/early-samsung-galaxy-s7-sales-exceed-expectations-681236/
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So from discussing benchmarks the conversation invariably shifts to sales...lol

Quick, break out the McDonald's profit vs quality chart.....

 

[nj1266]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3960964-galaxy-s7-bringing-samsung-back-growth

http://www.androidauthority.com/early-samsung-galaxy-s7-sales-exceed-expectations-681236/
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Quick, break out the McDonald's profit vs quality chart.....

The first source says that 250% increase is from the Netherlands. That is one country in Europe and not all of Europe. The second source is about sales "expectations" being 250% higher in Europe than it was for the S6. So there is nothing solid from Samsung. What you typed made sound that it actually happened.

 

[Truefan31]

Did I read that right, some regions they already cut the price 10%? That's early too. I'm gotta believe the s7 series will sell well with all the promos out the gate. Didn't know about that one though.

 

[Klyster]

The first source says that 250% increase is from the Netherlands. That is one country in Europe and not all of Europe. The second source is about sales "expectations" being 250% higher in Europe than it was for the S6. So there is nothing solid. What you typed made sound that it actually happened.

"Meanwhile while Samsung is being conservative with thier numbers, others are saying sales are up over last year's model, 250% in Europe according to some......"

No I didn't, you just didn't read it correctly.
And there's more sources that say the same thing, albeit, slightly differently too.
Point is, sales seem far from paltry, which some were trying to insinuate, certainly better than S6 sales.
I think everybody knows they'll never beat North American apple sales, that's a given. Apple could sell a rebranded 3GS and it'd sell in the millions, no joke.

 

[nj1266]

"Meanwhile while Samsung is being conservative with thier numbers, others are saying sales are up over last year's model, 250% in Europe according to some......"

No I didn't, you just didn't read it correctly.
And there's more sources that say the same thing, albeit, slightly differently too.
Point is, sales seem far from paltry, which some were trying to insinuate, certainly better than S6 sales.
I think everybody knows they'll never beat North American apple sales, that's a given. Apple could sell a rebranded 3GS and it'd sell in the millions, no joke.

There is nothing official from Samsung. All this is speculation. Until Samsung comes out and says we sold X amount of S7 phones and that is 250% higher than the S6, it is just analysts speculating. They do that all the time and a lot of the time they are wrong.

 

[Tsepz]

"Meanwhile while Samsung is being conservative with thier numbers, others are saying sales are up over last year's model, 250% in Europe according to some......"

No I didn't, you just didn't read it correctly.
And there's more sources that say the same thing, albeit, slightly differently too.
Point is, sales seem far from paltry, which some were trying to insinuate, certainly better than S6 sales.
I think everybody knows they'll never beat North American apple sales, that's a given. Apple could sell a rebranded 3GS and it'd sell in the millions, no joke.

Let it go.

This is what they are here to do, they are here to insinuate the worst about Android in general, when FFR arrives, no matter the topic it becomes a sales discussion.

Not quite sure how many here own Samsung or Apple shares.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

"Meanwhile while Samsung is being conservative with thier numbers, others are saying sales are up over last year's model, 250% in Europe according to some......"

To be fair the links you posted were pretty vague. The statement above I do not doubt is very true. Sales may well be up 250% in Europe. The Netherlands is in Europe so the statement is not untrue, it's just not suggesting the 'whole' of Europe. It's a bit like saying sales of the S7 are up 23% in Britain when a Carphone Warehouse store in Croydon has better sales than last year. It's not being untruthful but there is a context to it. The S7 is a great phone as I've been very impressed with it. I would imagine unless people are locked into 24 month contracts, the sales shouldn't be a problem this year. They really should have released this model last year IMO.

This sales stuff always bewilders me though. How many phones are sold does not make any difference to the user experience.

 

[Klyster]

There is nothing official from Samsung. All this is speculation. Until Samsung comes out and says we sold X amount of S7 phones and that is 250% higher than the S6, it is just analysts speculating. They do that all the time and a lot of the time they are wrong.

Which is paraphrasing my initial comment. ...

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You think? Geez, way to paraphrase......

Sorry?
You think I am paraphrasing or the articles?

 

[Klyster]

To be fair the links you posted were pretty vague. The statement above I do not doubt is very true. Sales may well be up 250% in Europe. The Netherlands is in Europe so the statement is not untrue, it's just not suggesting the 'whole' of Europe. It's a bit like saying sales of the S7 are up 23% in Britain when a Carphone Warehouse store in Croydon has better sales than last year. It's not being untruthful but there is a context to it. The S7 is a great phone as I've been very impressed with it. I would imagine unless people are locked into 24 month contracts, the sales shouldn't be a problem this year. They really should have released this model last year IMO.

This sales stuff always bewilders me though. How many phones are sold does not make any difference to the user experience.

To be fair, I posted a couple of links on request that "others", not me, had made the statement that sales were up in Europe by %250. That they were vague is not my doing and maybe not as vague as some links that get posted here sometimes.

If the S7 is a stinker that no one buys, by all means, point and laugh at me. I'll get over it
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Sorry?
You think I am paraphrasing or the articles?

Not you, struggling with the quote system here, deleting content is a pita....

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

To be fair, I posted a couple of links on request that "others", not me, had made the statement that sales were up in Europe by %250. That they were vague is not my doing and maybe not as vague as some links that get posted here sometimes.

If the S7 is a stinker that no one buys, by all means, point and laugh at me. I'll get over it
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Not you, struggling with the quote system here, deleting content is a pita....

I don't think the S7 is a bad phone that doesn't need to be purchased at all. Great phones don't always break sales records though and brand perception and marketing have a lot to do with that. The S7 is being well marketed in the UK at present but stores are not selling out. This doesn't mean it's not a brilliant phone though. My experience with it has been positive. The only things that stop me buying it is some of the iOS features I use on a daily basis. It's not like I'm going to convince pretty much my entire family to switch over to make things easier either.

 

[MRU]

I don't think the S7 is a bad phone that doesn't need to be purchased at all. Great phones don't always break sales records though and brand perception and marketing have a lot to do with that. The S7 is being well marketed in the UK at present but stores are not selling out. This doesn't mean it's not a brilliant phone though. My experience with it has been positive. The only things that stop me buying it is some of the iOS features I use on a daily basis. It's not like I'm going to convince pretty much my entire family to switch over to make things easier either.

Yep. I've been using my edge as the daily driver and whenever I use any of my androids as my daily driver I do miss things like all my messages syncing across my workspace and mobile devices. I always surprised how many of my contacts are actually iPhone users too, so whilst I can get away without iMessage for SMS, it's still noticeable to me. I know others like to chagrin Apple and its cloud services, but when they work - they work really well.

Most what I miss when using my androids is FaceTime call forwarding. Where for example in the gym I leave my iPhone in the car and just take in my iPod touch and earbuds with mic. The leisure centre has no mobile coverage once inside so best to leave obols in car. If I need to make a phone call, I can still initiate the call on my iPod touch to a regular landline or mobile and it's then routed through my iPhone wirelessly and without having to set anything up (just the iPod touch on wifi). It's a really neat ability and its that cross device harmony that is a really strong point for Apple.

With my androids as my daily driver, I can't obviously do that and I have to wait to come out of the leisure centre to see to my missed calls or to ring or respond / reply to text messages.

That being said I love the different androids too but do wish all of them would sync into my Mac hardware lifestyle as simply and efficiently ...

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Yep. I've been using my edge as the daily driver and whenever I use any of my androids as my daily driver I do miss things like all my messages syncing across my workspace and mobile devices. I always surprised how many of my contacts are actually iPhone users too, so whilst I can get away without iMessage for SMS, it's still noticeable to me. I know others like to chagrin Apple and its cloud services, but when they work - they work really well.

Most what I miss when using my androids is FaceTime call forwarding. Where for example in the gym I leave my iPhone in the car and just take in my iPod touch and earbuds with mic. The leisure centre has no mobile coverage once inside so best to leave obols in car. If I need to make a phone call, I can still initiate the call on my iPod touch to a regular landline or mobile and it's then routed through my iPhone wirelessly and without having to set anything up (just the iPod touch on wifi). It's a really neat ability and its that cross device harmony that is a really strong point for Apple.

With my androids as my daily driver, I can't obviously do that and I have to wait to come out of the leisure centre to see to my missed calls or to ring or respond / reply to text messages.

That being said I love the different androids too but do wish all of them would sync into my Mac hardware lifestyle as simply and efficiently ...

I can see why that would be very useful. I like how messages or a phone call comes up on my iPad. I'm not a Mac user but my wife is. I have to use a PC due to my job so the syncing with that is never done.

I like the backing up and restore feature too. I know there are workarounds on other platforms but I've never seen one quite as easy and slick. There are pros and cons of both Android and I've used both. I've just found iPhones have become a lot more popular since I was using Android and it means now my family and friends mostly have them. We use a lot of shared albums on photo-stream too and this would be a problem if I could no longer upload from my phone. I just wish all phones were a little more open to allow users to have a bit of variety.