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maka344

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Yep. I've been using my edge as the daily driver and whenever I use any of my androids as my daily driver I do miss things like all my messages syncing across my workspace and mobile devices. I always surprised how many of my contacts are actually iPhone users too, so whilst I can get away without iMessage for SMS, it's still noticeable to me. I know others like to chagrin Apple and its cloud services, but when they work - they work really well.

Most what I miss when using my androids is FaceTime call forwarding. Where for example in the gym I leave my iPhone in the car and just take in my iPod touch and earbuds with mic. The leisure centre has no mobile coverage once inside so best to leave obols in car. If I need to make a phone call, I can still initiate the call on my iPod touch to a regular landline or mobile and it's then routed through my iPhone wirelessly and without having to set anything up (just the iPod touch on wifi). It's a really neat ability and its that cross device harmony that is a really strong point for Apple.

With my androids as my daily driver, I can't obviously do that and I have to wait to come out of the leisure centre to see to my missed calls or to ring or respond / reply to text messages.

That being said I love the different androids too but do wish all of them would sync into my Mac hardware lifestyle as simply and efficiently ...

How do you set that FaceTime call forwarding up? Sounds great!!
 

Technarchy

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I'm not all that amped about Qualcomm silicon. I was glad when Samsung went in-house for the S6.

Qualcomm chips don't impress me at all.
 
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MRU

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How do you set that FaceTime call forwarding up? Sounds great!!

It just assigned mobile number with my iPhone and asked if I want to use it with call forwarding which I said yes. Then when I go into my iPod I hit the number and enter a normal mobile / landline and it automatically the forward / pushes it through my phone. I didn't have to set up anything per se.

Works for me a treat.


A couple of snaps.

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FFR

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"Meanwhile while Samsung is being conservative with thier numbers, others are saying sales are up over last year's model, 250% in Europe according to some......"

No I didn't, you just didn't read it correctly.
And there's more sources that say the same thing, albeit, slightly differently too.
Point is, sales seem far from paltry, which some were trying to insinuate, certainly better than S6 sales.
I think everybody knows they'll never beat North American apple sales, that's a given. Apple could sell a rebranded 3GS and it'd sell in the millions, no joke.

Wasn't insinuating anything, Samsung CEO Oh-Hyun Kwon did. He sent a letter to investors explaining Samsung’s smartphone business in 2016. It wasn't good.

“We expect core products of our company, such as smartphone, TV, and memory, will face oversupply issues and intensified price competition,”

Oversupply issues and intensified price competition means not selling.

And

“Samsung Electronics went through many difficulties last year, such as intensified competitions over our core products amid global economic recession,” Kwon wrote. “We expect that 2016 will also be a tough year.”

Are you saying you or your sources know better than Samsung's CEO?
 

FFR

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Let it go.

This is what they are here to do, they are here to insinuate the worst about Android in general, when FFR arrives, no matter the topic it becomes a sales discussion.

Not quite sure how many here own Samsung or Apple shares.

Android? I thought this was about Samsung s7 edge's performance in relation to the iPhone.

Don't own any apple or Samsung shares.
Do you?
 

Truefan31

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Yep. I've been using my edge as the daily driver and whenever I use any of my androids as my daily driver I do miss things like all my messages syncing across my workspace and mobile devices. I always surprised how many of my contacts are actually iPhone users too, so whilst I can get away without iMessage for SMS, it's still noticeable to me. I know others like to chagrin Apple and its cloud services, but when they work - they work really well.

Most what I miss when using my androids is FaceTime call forwarding. Where for example in the gym I leave my iPhone in the car and just take in my iPod touch and earbuds with mic. The leisure centre has no mobile coverage once inside so best to leave obols in car. If I need to make a phone call, I can still initiate the call on my iPod touch to a regular landline or mobile and it's then routed through my iPhone wirelessly and without having to set anything up (just the iPod touch on wifi). It's a really neat ability and its that cross device harmony that is a really strong point for Apple.

With my androids as my daily driver, I can't obviously do that and I have to wait to come out of the leisure centre to see to my missed calls or to ring or respond / reply to text messages.

That being said I love the different androids too but do wish all of them would sync into my Mac hardware lifestyle as simply and efficiently ...

That's a great scenario. Yup that's a plus having Apple devices. Seamless integration can make things easier. Not saying Apple is super advanced but it's something that there really isn't a comparable alternative to iMessage/FaceTime/syncing/backup-restore.
 

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It just assigned mobile number with my iPhone and asked if I want to use it with call forwarding which I said yes. Then when I go into my iPod I hit the number and enter a normal mobile / landline and it automatically the forward / pushes it through my phone. I didn't have to set up anything per se.

Works for me a treat.


A couple of snaps.

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Beautiful as always, what apps do you use to edit your pics?
 

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To be fair the links you posted were pretty vague. The statement above I do not doubt is very true. Sales may well be up 250% in Europe. The Netherlands is in Europe so the statement is not untrue, it's just not suggesting the 'whole' of Europe. It's a bit like saying sales of the S7 are up 23% in Britain when a Carphone Warehouse store in Croydon has better sales than last year. It's not being untruthful but there is a context to it. The S7 is a great phone as I've been very impressed with it. I would imagine unless people are locked into 24 month contracts, the sales shouldn't be a problem this year. They really should have released this model last year IMO.

This sales stuff always bewilders me though. How many phones are sold does not make any difference to the user experience.

Poor s6 sales led Samsung to bring back the sd card and increase battery capacity in the s7.
That's how.
 

Tsepz

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Android? I thought this was about Samsung s7 edge's performance in relation to the iPhone.

Don't own any apple or Samsung shares.
Do you?
I thought the same to, yet you've made it about sales.

The way you go on about sales, you'd think you had a large amount invested in Apple's shares.

Nope, hence sales don't affect me.
 

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I thought the same to, yet you've made it about sales.

The way you go on about sales, you'd think you had a large amount invested in Apple's shares.

Nope, hence sales don't affect me.

Yes Samsung sales. Not android.
I have a background in finance.
I favor Empirical data over speculative data.
Nothing more.

I don't understand why so many here are so averse to sales data.
 
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lowendlinux

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Yes Samsung sales. Not android.
I have a background in finance.
I favor Empirical data over speculative data.
Nothing more.

I don't understand why so many here are so averse to sales data.

Because sales data is about as relevant to the thread as my pets.

The thread is about the fact that a Samsung phone that is over half a year newer is smoking an iPhone.
 

gotluck

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It just assigned mobile number with my iPhone and asked if I want to use it with call forwarding which I said yes. Then when I go into my iPod I hit the number and enter a normal mobile / landline and it automatically the forward / pushes it through my phone. I didn't have to set up anything per se.

Works for me a treat.


A couple of snaps.

View attachment 623504 View attachment 623503


Yea the forwarding is pretty slick I agree!

Android can do similar with google voice / hangouts via wifi, but that may not work for non usa users. Apple's solution is more slick regardless though (just way less compatible devices)

Nice pics!

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ugh sales data :-/ yuck, i thought we were talking about phones not investments!

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This is mostly irrelevant but I was reading r/apple and folks were talking about how the poor benchmarks dont really effect normal people using the new macbook. Couldnt help but smile and think of this thread! Double standards!
 

epicrayban

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How many phones are sold does not make any difference to the user experience.

Bingo.

But isn't this exactly the argument a lot of Apple fans use to defend any criticism of the iPhone/iOS? How many times have we heard Apple's sales and profits being brought up when discussing whether or not Apple needs to improve certain things relating to the user experience?

Because I agree with your statement.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Bingo.

But isn't this exactly the argument a lot of Apple fans use to defend any criticism of the iPhone/iOS? How many times have we heard Apple's sales and profits being brought up when discussing whether or not Apple needs to improve certain things relating to the user experience?

Because I agree with your statement.
A few here do and a few Android fans rip the iPhone apart for being boring or restrictive. That's just forum banter where both sides are as bad each other. Nobody is against improving something regardless of what they say. I have disagreed many times when an improvement has been suggested that I don't agree with or think it isn't needed but again that's a subjective approach.

I got attacked for asking for advice on my iPhone having lag after the last update on one thread and was accused of posting BS and being a liar. It was actually demanded that I post a video, as if I had somehow made it up just for kicks. I can appreciate fanboys can be bad on both sides here.
 

epicrayban

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A few here do and a few Android fans rip the iPhone apart for being boring or restrictive. That's just forum banter where both sides are as bad each other. Nobody is against improving something regardless of what they say. I have disagreed many times when an improvement has been suggested that I don't agree with or think it isn't needed but again that's a subjective approach.

I got attacked for asking for advice on my iPhone having lag after the last update on one thread and was accused of posting BS and being a liar. It was actually demanded that I post a video, as if I had somehow made it up just for kicks. I can appreciate fanboys can be bad on both sides here.

Certainly.

I hope you'll be vocal the next time Apple profits/sales are brought up in a topic about user experience. We know who the culprits usually are here that use that argument. It'll happen again.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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If one Galaxy model sold as much as one iPhone model, who's to say Samsung would still be aggressive. I like aggressive Samsung, so not selling one model as much as the iPhone is a blessing in disguise. :)
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Certainly.

I hope you'll be vocal the next time Apple profits/sales are brought up in a topic about user experience. We know who the culprits usually are here that use that argument. It'll happen again.
I always am vocal about it. Apple offer a very good user experience and it was this that attracted me in the first place.

Other manufacturers offer good products to rival Apple but don't always see as impressive sales. This also has a lot to do with brand association and marketing. This doesn't mean the likes of Samsung are delivering worse products, but it also doesn't mean Apple are only selling due to their marketing. It's about the right balance of product vs appeal. Customer support is also a major factor in any companies appeal in my experience.
 

jamezr

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If one Galaxy model sold as much as one iPhone model, who's to say Samsung would still be aggressive. I like aggressive Samsung, so not selling one model as much as the iPhone is a blessing in disguise. :)
i agree...underdog Samsung has to try harder and provide a better product. But i also want them to have success to so they continue to provide leading tech in their phones.
 
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Klyster

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Wasn't insinuating anything, Samsung CEO Oh-Hyun Kwon did. He sent a letter to investors explaining Samsung’s smartphone business in 2016. It wasn't good.



Oversupply issues and intensified price competition means not selling.

And



Are you saying you or your sources know better than Samsung's CEO?


No but neither you or I know the sales figures and he is being conservative. ...
 
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