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Gets that if preorders go a month, you are still waiting a month vs preorders for a week, and it take three weeks to get you your phone, you've still waited a month. The only difference is everyone's sense of entitlement is still in tact in your scenario.
no think about it. if pre orders start august 25 for example
by sepetember 16 hopefully they would be able to have everyone who pre ordered their phone by launch date
so basically we are not loosing any time we are just giving apple more time to estimate how many we need
 
Why doesn't Apple start preorders like they do with video games about a month or two before? Of course they'd have to push up their event to august but at least they'd know how many they need to produce
 
no think about it. if pre orders start august 25 for example
by sepetember 16 hopefully they would be able to have everyone who pre ordered their phone by launch date
so basically we are not loosing any time we are just giving apple more time to estimate how many we need

So you think that maintaining the sense of entitlement of around two dozen people who go on Macrumors for 4 hours each day is worth losing two week's worth of iPhone sales globally, because no one is buying the previous iPhone at full price once the next one is announced?
 
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of course not- but when was the last time apples preorder numbers were less than 3 million?
they sold 10Million during the the iPhone 6 launch weekend as well- and that was the year when they introduced the plus series.

Apple saw an opportunity with the Note 7 fiasco and pushed the release a week- but they say, any press is good press, phones have a 2-3 week waiting time = apple is selling a lot - at least thats how some people read the headlines
I read somewhere that they increased the iphone 7 component production by 10% somewhere on or before September 5th.
It may have had something to do with trying capitolizing on the Note 7, but the article mentioned it was because Apple was trying to counter people wanting to upgrade and what not.
 
no think about it. if pre orders start august 25 for example
by sepetember 16 hopefully they would be able to have everyone who pre ordered their phone by launch date
so basically we are not loosing any time we are just giving apple more time to estimate how many we need
Apple announces every year at the start of September. Preorders start later that week after announcement. The only way they are waiting a month is to hold shipments until October. Why would they do that? Why not ship out what they can as soon as they can?
 
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Why doesn't Apple start preorders like they do with video games about a month or two before? Of course they'd have to push up their event to august but at least they'd know how many they need to produce

Because video games don't directly replace sales of a previous version the way phone and electronic sales do. They can announce early to build hype because they're not missing out on people who will buy whatever phone is the newest at the moment, even if the next one is rumored to be announced in a week.
 
So you think that maintaining the sense of entitlement of around two dozen people who go on Macrumors for 4 hours each day is worth losing two week's worth of iPhone sale globally, because no one is buying the previous iPhone at full price once the next one is announced?

Again. Glad someone gets it. You keep taking the words right out of my mouth. Thanks omgitscro!
 
Again. Glad someone gets it. You keep taking the words right out of my mouth. Thanks omgitscro!

People are upset, but that's no reason to throw away common sense. Apple is doing what it has been doing for years because it works.
 
apple moved their launch date by a week- it was two weeks between pre-order and launch for the iPhone 6. That year i didn't get mine until October since T-Mobile managed to screw my order not once but twice!
 
ok let me ask 2 questions
did you pre order?
and do you have your phone as of right now?

Yes, and no. I'm just glad Apple didn't arbitrarily set the preorder window to be two months, because we'd all have 8 long weeks to look forward to.
 
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Yes, and no. I'm just glad Apple didn't arbitrarily set the preorder window to be two months, because we'd all have 8 long weeks to look forward to.
so u are saying you would rather not get your phone on launch date and get it when god know when
rather wait 4 weeks from august 25 but at least know that you are getting it on launch date
 
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Why doesn't Apple start preorders like they do with video games about a month or two before? Of course they'd have to push up their event to august but at least they'd know how many they need to produce
Why do you even bother, some people will support Apple no matter how wrong they are.

iPhone loses reception= your holding it wrong

iPhone bends= who sits on their phone

iPhone manufacturers in deplorable conditions where many workers commit suicide= well as long as the price doesn't go up

iPhone screen has dust under it= what do you expect when they make so many

iPhone screen has yellowish tint= well that's why I wait to buy mine

iPhone Plus goes on sales with little to no inventory= it's just so darn popular
 
So regular JUMP customer tried ordering at 3:01AM on release date with ZERO luck thanks to their amazing systems when it comes to JUMP and JOD, ended up finally ordering a matte black 7+ 128g at around 7:45AM got my emails and text messages immediately after and received an estimated ship date of 9/27-10/10...got a call today from the executive office spoke to nice woman who informed me that my phone is ready to "drop" which according to her means that it is in the warehouse and ready to ship and that I should see some movement on my status tomorrow. Not sure how true this is but maybe it means that everyone else who's waiting on 7+ blacks will get some info tomorrow too.
 
Does anyone know what day of the week t-mobile stores typically get deliveries? I am wondering if there is a chance of strolling into a store over the corse of the next week and getting one. I am hoping there is an employee on here who might shed some light. I have to imagine they are going to have some in stores as quickly as possible, its a sure sale for them...
 
Yes, and no. I'm just glad Apple didn't arbitrarily set the preorder window to be two months, because we'd all have 8 long weeks to look forward to.

Apple does it like this, because their fiscal year ends at the end of September. Thus when their investors and stock holders see preorder numbers soar super high (this year even higher because Apple watch series 1 and 2 and iPhone 7 launched simultaneously), they get beyond excited.

Remember guys, when you place your preorder, the carrier of choice submits an order with Apple for EVERY phone that gets preordered. Which means TMobile in this case, needs to PAY APPLE for every phone before they even charge us for the phone. I used to work in Wireless and this would happen every year when the iPhone released. The carriers have to foot the bill for hundreds of thousands of phones, and then Apple doesn't ship until they have ample supply.

It's sorta like the new car industry. The dealership buys car without the knowledge of people wanting to buy them, and then hopefully they sell. The dealership pays for ALL the new cars up front, and then rape you on the price and taxes and such, just to turn a profit. Before you ALL ROAST me for this comparison, like i mentioned it's SIMILAR. Obviously they KNOW people are gonna buy, but similar situation.
 
Gets that if preorders go a month, you are still waiting a month vs preorders for a week, and it take three weeks to get you your phone, you've still waited a month. The only difference is everyone's sense of entitlement is still in tact in your scenario.

So in other words the way it is now and been going on for years is perfect?
It's my fault and the millions of others waiting. We're just all entitled.
Entitled to get something we paid for in a timely and less stressful manner.
Thank you for your valuable input.
 
Not sure how they count their fiscal year or sales figures. Ok so if you can't push up the release why not be better prepared, stocked up and ready to go and learn by your shortages and issues you faced since 2007?
In other words is it nit possible to be better prepared for a release or does every year has to be the same fiasco and 1-2 month wait to get your hands on the new device?
Some retail stores got 2-3 phones on launch day, Apple stores received no iPhone 7 plus models to sell and much more craziness that doesn't make much sense for a company of that caliber.
So what you're saying it's impossible to predict demand or improve this broken way of iPhone release year after year?

Don't forget they are launching in more countries also. Manufacturing capacity would need to be increased significantly for them to accomplish what we expect. I think efforts are already underway with respect to that. I'm not saying Apple is doing everything perfectly, but I'm sure it's no small undertaking.
 
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So regular JUMP customer tried ordering at 3:01AM on release date with ZERO luck thanks to their amazing systems when it comes to JUMP and JOD, ended up finally ordering a matte black 7+ 128g at around 7:45AM got my emails and text messages immediately after and received an estimated ship date of 9/27-10/10...got a call today from the executive office spoke to nice woman who informed me that my phone is ready to "drop" which according to her means that it is in the warehouse and ready to ship and that I should see some movement on my status tomorrow. Not sure how true this is but maybe it means that everyone else who's waiting on 7+ blacks will get some info tomorrow too.


Should've ordered a Matte Black instead of a Jet Black, the Jet Blacks are are unicorns this year
 
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