iPhone 7 Leaks

[lordofthereef]

Dual lens can/will give 3x optical zoom (which will be a smartphone first?) according to what's been said about the dual lens technology. But dual lens might only be on the Plus and Pro (or maybe just Pro)

I must have misread or misunderstood the original post. I took it as meaning there wouldn't be multiple cameras/lenses. If the camera sees vast improvements I am all ears.

As a side note, I was searching for a video example of 3x optical zoom and found out that apparently Asus has just launched a phone with this very feature. Neat!

 

[ValO]

Try not to be fooled by Samsung 's marketing machine. iPhone screen contrast is fantastic. By far the best on lcd market. The only way Samsung can claim a better contrast is because OLED technology allow for true blacks (with pixels turned off entirely) so 0:500 seems better than, for instance 0,03:550 ... but in real world performance there isn't any significant difference.
The only way Apple could improve display, in a way, is by raising resolution. It would be partially useful, as far as it doesn't affect performance and battery life.


Agree. The A9X is by far the best out there...
I'm looking forward to see an extensive review by anandtech to see the thermal behavior of snapdragon 820 under load to check if it throttle like hell as every single SoC does except Apple 's.

Perhaps it is a very good display now.
But I am not talking about now.
We are talking about an iPhone that is released in 6 months with a display that we are stuck with for at least one year. Or 2 years..., so worst case 2.5 years.
And the current display just won't be enough for that period .
Lg G5 already seems to have a high end display now and so does the nexus 5p. The only thing iPhone 6s scores better in is max brightness. Andit won' t be long before the cheap Chinese androids will equal it or best it.
So the display definitely needs improvement...

 

[lagwagon]

I must have misread or misunderstood the original post. I took it as meaning there wouldn't be multiple cameras/lenses. If the camera sees vast improvements I am all ears.

As a side note, I was searching for a video example of 3x optical zoom and found out that apparently Asus has just launched a phone with this very feature. Neat!

Definitely not dual lens in the 7 with everything I've read. And that supposed case leak in the article the OP posted is for the 7 I believe. Which supports the rumours of only in the larger 7+ or maybe only the 7Pro will only house the dual lens set up.

 

[Max(IT)]

Perhaps it is a very good display now.
But I am not talking about now.
We are talking about an iPhone that is released in 6 months with a display that we are stuck with for at least one year. Or 2 years..., so worst case 2.5 years.
And the current display just won't be enough for that period .
Lg G5 already seems to have a high end display now and so does the nexus 5p. The only thing iPhone 6s scores better in is max brightness. Andit won' t be long before the cheap Chinese androids will equal it or best it.
So the display definitely needs improvement...

again, it's the marketing machine speaking here...
Your (and definitely mine too) eyes aren't going to improve in the next 2.5 years.
Max brightness and color accuracy are the most important parameters by far, and they already are top notch on the iPhone. The only way to improve the display is to raise the resolution, with marginal gain maintaining the current display size of 4.7".
Yes, they could do that and obtain an higher PPI, above 400PPI, but it would be mostly a marketing gimmick.

 

[sunapple]

You guys ever seen an iPod Touch? Its back (2012-now) looks exactly the same. No lines, large looking camera (2015 model)...

For the iPhone 7 I'm hoping on a bit more exciting details and materials. And who really cares about the back anyway since you'll be looking at the front all the time.

 

[ValO]

again, it's the marketing machine speaking here...
Your (and definitely mine too) eyes aren't going to improve in the next 2.5 years.
Max brightness and color accuracy are the most important parameters by far, and they already are top notch on the iPhone. The only way to improve the display is to raise the resolution, with marginal gain maintaining the current display size of 4.7".
Yes, they could do that and obtain an higher PPI, above 400PPI, but it would be mostly a marketing gimmick.

Ok, I give up.
You' ll always want the last word.
No marketing bs.
It is very good now, I get it. But the way you are saying it, it will never have to improve.
It is good now, so why improve it?
They could even use this same screen in the iPhone 10.

Our eyes are not going to improve.
My eyes will go worse over time.
So Apple can even put in a worse screen.
I won' t notice. Good for their margins.

But seriously, there are already better ips lcd screens out there:

For instance the new lg G5 screen is rated at 900+ nits.
The nexus 5x has better color accuracy and better blacks, better greyscale accuracy, etc.
Just look at the anandtech review.
And you forgot mentioning black levels. iPhone 6/s black levels are not in the lead there, about in the middle of the heap.

It is good now, but in the next 1.5 years, this lcd will pale by comparison with the competition.

 

[Max(IT)]

Ok, I give up.
You' ll always want the last word.
No marketing bs.
It is very good now, I get it. But the way you are saying it, it will never have to improve.
It is good now, so why improve it?
They could even use this same screen in the iPhone 10.

I never said that.
I just said I don't want Apple to blindly follow the specs war, but I'd rather them to focus on important factors instead.
They could improve the display, and they probably will.

Our eyes are not going to improve.
My eyes will go worse over time.
So Apple can even put in a worse screen.
I won' t notice. Good for their margins.

Again, I never said they can use a worse screen.
I just said they can slightly improve the display by raising the resolution. I frankly don't know if they are going to do that.

But seriously, there are already better ips lcd screens out there:

For instance the new lg G5 screen is rated at 900+ nits.
The nexus 5x has better color accuracy and better blacks, better greyscale accuracy, etc.
Just look at the anandtech review.
And you forgot mentioning black levels. iPhone 6/s black levels are not in the lead there, about in the middle of the heap.

It is good now, but in the next 1.5 years, this lcd will pale by comparison with the competition.

i can't comment on the G5 since I didn't read any accurate review.
Nexus 5X has a very good display indeed, very accurate, but max brightness (and thus contrast ratio) are still worse than on the iPhone 6S.
I don't know if apple is going to improve the display on the iPhone 7, but there isn't much they can do if not raising resolution.

 

[ABC5S]

If Apple doesn't give use the below, why bother...

1. Better camera
2. Better screen
3. Better sound
4. SD slot
5. Water resistant
6. Better battery or at least keep the same, but with thinness going wild, how can one have a better battery ?

If Apple just gives use a slightly better CPU/GPU and improved camera, that's not a real go getter while some other manufactures have given the customer more. If other manufactures can do it, why can't Apple ? Or why is Apple holding back for so long ?

 

[John Mcgregor]

If Apple doesn't give use the below, why bother...

1. Better camera
2. Better screen
3. Better sound
4. SD slot
5. Water resistant
6. Better battery or at least keep the same, but with thinness going wild, how can one have a better battery ?

If Apple just gives use a slightly better CPU/GPU and improved camera, that's not a real go getter while some other manufactures have given the customer more. If other manufactures can do it, why can't Apple ? Or why is Apple holding back for so long ?

Because others have no leverage, so they will slap just about anything to make the spec sheet.

 

[Max(IT)]

1. Better camera

quite sure.

2. Better screen

possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.

3. Better sound

debatable, but if they really ditches the 3,5mm jack I hope it is for a better sound system

4. SD slot

what ? It's 2016 ... let Samsung play with the hysteria of "sd slot/no sd slot/sd slot again...". We need a 32 Gb base model, not an anachronistic SD slot...

5. Water resistant

it could be a benefit, and considering the iPhone 6S maybe Apple is working on that.

6. Better battery or at least keep the same, but with thinness going wild, how can one have a better battery ?

battery life always improved in the last years, starting from iPhone 5S. So I'm quite positive they are going to give us a better battery life.

If Apple just gives use a slightly better CPU/GPU and improved camera, that's not a real go getter while some other manufactures have given the customer more. If other manufactures can do it, why can't Apple ? Or why is Apple holding back for so long ?

Slightly better ? usually Apple gives us a remarkably better CPU/GPU at every iteration. Snapdragon 820 still struggles to keep the pace of A9 in several tests...

 

[952863]

Also, why is Apple going for thinner, and thinner products? The 6s is thin already! Won't it be susceptible to breaking easier if its thinner? Maybe they should give Ive's the boot, and bring someone else in.

 

[sunapple]

4. SD slot

Virtually never going to happen. It would require great modification to iOS and how it handles files. How to handle Music? Apps? App data? Security? Apple can lose a lot of control when users start swapping out SD cards, or open files from there. Apple likes control too much.

Also, it took Android a while to make possible for apps to be installed on the SD card.

Also, when I had 60GB of music on my SD card in my Lumia phone it took for ever to load songs. Its very slow.

Apple should just give us more internal storage.

 

[Dave245]

Apple should just give us more internal storage.

There is a rumour that there will be a 256GB version. It might make sense if Apple are working on a dual lense camera and increasing the size of images. Let's not forget Live Photos take up more storage as well so it would make sense.

 

[The Game 161]

Be interesting if Apple do go for 256GB models. Think it's unlikely but could see it happening,

 

[952863]

Be interesting if Apple do go for 256GB models. Think it's unlikely but could see it happening,

Hmm, didn't the rumours say they are dropping the 16GB completely? And, going straight to 64GB as the standard size? Then of course 128 GB! But, 256 GB would definitely be a nice option to have. More options Apple provides, the better.

Virtually never going to happen. It would require great modification to iOS and how it handles files. How to handle Music? Apps? App data? Security? Apple can lose a lot of control when users start swapping out SD cards, or open files from there. Apple likes control too much.

Also, it took Android a while to make possible for apps to be installed on the SD card.

Also, when I had 60GB of music on my SD card in my Lumia phone it took for ever to load songs. Its very slow.

Apple should just give us more internal storage.

Good points. And I thought SD cards are relatively fast? Maybe it was just the Lumia phone causing the slow load times?

 

[The Game 161]

Hmm, didn't the rumours say they are dropping the 16GB completely? And, going straight to 64GB as the standard size? Then of course 128 GB! But, 256 GB would definitely be a nice option to have. More options Apple provides, the better.



Good points. And I thought SD cards are relatively fast? Maybe it was just the Lumia phone causing the slow load times?

I hope they do get rid of 16GB but 256GB model would certainly get apple some praise as the first to do it.

 

[John Mcgregor]

quite sure.


possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.

debatable, but if they really ditches the 3,5mm jack I hope it is for a better sound system

what ? It's 2016 ... let Samsung play with the hysteria of "sd slot/no sd slot/sd slot again...". We need a 32 Gb base model, not an anachronistic SD slot...

it could be a benefit, and considering the iPhone 6S maybe Apple is working on that.

battery life always improved in the last years, starting from iPhone 5S. So I'm quite positive they are going to give us a better battery life.

Slightly better ? usually Apple gives us a remarkably better CPU/GPU at every iteration. Snapdragon 820 still struggles to keep the pace of A9 in several tests...

Every time i read about sd cards i jut can't stop laughing.

 

[willmtaylor]

Hmm, didn't the rumours say they are dropping the 16GB completely? And, going straight to 64GB as the standard size? Then of course 128 GB! But, 256 GB would definitely be a nice option to have.

I've only seen wishful thinking in this regard. I've yet to see any "credible rumors."

Could you dig them up and put them here if you have?

 

[Max(IT)]

in the meanwhile preliminary results about Galaxy S7 throttling , in the Exynos version, are showing this:

and here people keep speaking about screen resolution and SD card slots.....

 

[John Mcgregor]

in the meanwhile preliminary results about Galaxy S7 throttling , in the Exynos version, are showing this:

and here people keep speaking about screen resolution and SD card slots.....

Well because most are blind.

 

[952863]

Be interesting if Apple do go for 256GB models. Think it's unlikely but could see it happening,

For sure, I agree.

I've only seen wishful thinking in this regard. I've yet to see any "credible rumors."

Could you dig them up and put them here if you have?

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/ipho...one-waterproof-oled-pro-march-invite-3530504/

I remember reading another link, but I forgot the URL. But, I do know its an Asian guy who leaks all Apple info, and I remember looking at his history of leaks, and majority have come true. He's been pretty much spot on for ~85% of the time. Sorry, I just don't recall his name. Just having cloudy memory at the moment.

in the meanwhile preliminary results about Galaxy S7 throttling , in the Exynos version, are showing this:

and here people keep speaking about screen resolution and SD card slots.....

Not to sound ignorant, but what can you explain to me what this chart implies exactly? That S7's CPU isn't as good as it is claimed to be?

 

[John Mcgregor]

For sure, I agree.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/ipho...one-waterproof-oled-pro-march-invite-3530504/

I remember reading another link, but I forgot the URL. But, I do know its an Asian guy who leaks all Apple info, and I remember looking at his history of leaks, and majority have come true. He's been pretty much spot on for ~85% of the time. Sorry, I just don't recall his name. Just having cloudy memory at the moment.



Not to sound ignorant, but what can you explain to me what this chart implies exactly? That S7's CPU isn't as good as it is claimed to be?

It shows that the performance degrades the longer you keep it running something. For example a game.

 

[Max(IT)]

Not to sound ignorant, but what can you explain to me what this chart implies exactly? That S7's CPU isn't as good as it is claimed to be?

Those results are just preliminary, but quite consistent...

As usual Samsung can't balance their system. They are looking for high numbers in benchmarks, but the phone just can't keep that pace for thermal constrains. After 10 iterations the performance are dropping....
Look at the iPhone 6S Plus for example.

 

[952863]

It shows that the performance degrades the longer you keep it running something. For example a game.

Thanks for the explanation. Well if that's the case, that's really disheartening for S7 owners.

Those results are just preliminary, but quite consistent...

As usual Samsung can't balance their system. They are looking for high numbers in benchmarks, but the phone just can't keep that pace for thermal constrains. After 10 iterations the performance are halved....
Look at the iPhone 6S Plus for example.

Hmm, thanks for the explanation. Hopefully, they sort this out for S8.

 

[John Mcgregor]

Thanks for the explanation. Well if that's the case, that's really disheartening for S7 owners.



Hmm, thanks for the explanation. Hopefully, they sort this out for S8.

S6 has the same issue. I was playing MiniGore on a plane and after around 2 hours it started to lag like crazy and was hot to hold.