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AppleRobert

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I have a Moto X Pure 2015 and it is measured at 715 nits. I have it at 50% brightness reading this thread. I changed the brightness on my IPhone 7 to 50%, it is so much darker and it is suppose to be 1000 nits?

Something is way wrong.
 
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keviig

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I have a Moto X Pure 2015 and it is measured at 715 nits. I have it at 50% brightness reading this thread. I changed the brightness on my IPhone 7 to 50%, it is so much darker and it is suppose to be 1000 nits?

Something is way wrong.
iPhone 7 isn't 1000 nits, thats the Apple Watch series 2. The iPhone 7 maxes out at 625 nits.
 
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AppleRobert

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iPhone 7 isn't 1000 nits, thats the Apple Watch series 2. The iPhone 7 maxes out at 625 nits.

Ok, my bad. 625 versus 715 on my Moto X Pure isn't night and day, 15%.

It is a night and day difference looking side by side. Both use IPS LCD.
 

keviig

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Ok, my bad. 625 versus 715 on my Moto X Pure isn't night and day, 15%.

It is a night and day difference looking side by side. Both use IPS LCD.
Yeah i've seen a few comparisons with 6s phones and it seems to be both yellower and dimmer. Really disappointing considering the "25% brighter" promise they made in their keynote. I for one hate yellow screens regardless of it being "more correct" or "more natural". We've seen the same thing with the iPad Pro's lately, where screens are yellower even with True Tone and Night Shift off.
 

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Yeah i've seen a few comparisons with 6s phones and it seems to be both yellower and dimmer. Really disappointing considering the "25% brighter" promise they made in their keynote. I for one hate yellow screens regardless of it being "more correct" or "more natural". We've seen the same thing with the iPad Pro's lately, where screens are yellower even with True Tone and Night Shift off.

i think there's warm screens and then YELLOW screens

the latter sucks

i love my 9.7 pro screen too, even though it too is warmer

i used to be white screen anal retentive, and still am to an extent piss yellow will not do for me, but i value more pleasant colors with a warm white over a sterile white and sterile colors
 
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AppleRobert

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Yeah i've seen a few comparisons with 6s phones and it seems to be both yellower and dimmer. Really disappointing considering the "25% brighter" promise they made in their keynote. I for one hate yellow screens regardless of it being "more correct" or "more natural". We've seen the same thing with the iPad Pro's lately, where screens are yellower even with True Tone and Night Shift off.

I like a bright screen, that is not to say I have the brightness setting to 100% on my smartphones.

I can keep the Moto X Pure on 50% and enjoy using it. No way with the iPhone 7.

What is going to be real disappointing if there is not anything that can be done except increasing brightness is the battery life is going to take a rather big hit. And I am even a bigger stickler with battery life.
 

Atomic Walrus

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It's ridiculous how people will make excuses for Apple despite what's right in front of you. The 7 IS NOT brighter. It's not acceptable that they lied.

They obviously didn't "lie." Apple isn't dumb enough to make up display stats and just hope that Displaymate and Anandtech don't publicize the data.

Something's gone wrong since their original testing. The screens wouldn't have made it to production if they didn't test well on their own, so the most likely cause is firmware/software limiting brightness when it shouldn't be.

The iPhone doesn't have that feature.

I think it's regulating the backlight when the phone is hot. Which it was during restore and spotlight crap

There's no way that accounts for what we're seeing, unless this mechanism is malfunctioning. No one is seeing brightness above the 6s, even on the demo models which are sitting and doing nothing. It's not realistic to believe that every iP7 is just currently too warm.
 

AppleRobert

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They obviously didn't "lie." Apple isn't dumb enough to make up display stats and just hope that Displaymate and Anandtech don't publicize the data.

Something's gone wrong since their original testing. The screens wouldn't have made it to production if they didn't test well on their own, so the most likely cause is firmware/software limiting brightness when it shouldn't be.

Totally agree, I am surprised we haven't heard something yet though from Apple.

At least acknowledge it is an issue, I know it has only been one day and it takes time to research and fix but hearing something would be nice. I don't believe it is hardware related.

I had a problem with the Galaxy s7 edge losing the screen setting adjustment I made from vivid to basic when I played games. It was software related.
 

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They obviously didn't "lie." Apple isn't dumb enough to make up display stats and just hope that Displaymate and Anandtech don't publicize the data.

Something's gone wrong since their original testing. The screens wouldn't have made it to production if they didn't test well on their own, so the most likely cause is firmware/software limiting brightness when it shouldn't be.



There's no way that accounts for what we're seeing, unless this mechanism is malfunctioning. No one is seeing brightness above the 6s, even on the demo models which are sitting and doing nothing. It's not realistic to believe that every iP7 is just currently too warm.

I respectfully disagree. One my phone cooled from restoring the screen jumped in brightness. It could be a bug but my 7 display def is very bright now
 

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Totally agree, I am surprised we haven't heard something yet though from Apple.

At least acknowledge it is an issue, I know it has only been one day and it takes time to research and fix but hearing something would be nice. I don't believe it is hardware related.

I had a problem with the Galaxy s7 edge losing the screen setting adjustment I made from vivid to basic when I played games. It was software related.
Has this even made it to the front page of macrumors? I don't think it's be enough to go up to Apple unless people start going into the store and complaining.
 
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AppleRobert

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Has this even made it to the front page of macrumors? I don't think it's be enough to go up to Apple unless people start going into the store and complaining.

At this point I'm unsure whether Apple knows to be honest but I assume word would get out pretty quickly.

Do you feel comfortable with the brightness at 50%? I can have my 5S at 60% and can get by. I know you said the brightness is better but what are you comparing it to? And if one would just go ahead and increase the brightness to compensate well then comes the battery life issue.

I would not even attempt to evaluate battery life yet until I can set the brightness way lower than I have it.
 
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At this point I'm unsure whether Apple knows to be honest but I assume word would get out pretty quickly.

Do you feel comfortable with the brightness at 50%? I can have my 5S at 60% and can get by. I know you said the brightness is better but what are you comparing it to? And if one would just go ahead and increase the brightness to compensate well then comes the battery life issue.

I would not even attempt to evaluate battery life yet until I can set the brightness way lower than I have it.
I don't keep my phone at 50%, so I can't tell you what that is like. What I did compare it to was the iPhone 6s I have. Also when I first made this post, things have changed a lot in my display. I was not able to take a picture when I first got the phone, but I put it side by side with my 6s it was clearly dimmer. Now I don't think it's that way. It may not be brighter, but it for sure equal.
 

AppleRobert

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I respectfully disagree. One my phone cooled from restoring the screen jumped in brightness. It could be a bug but my 7 display def is very bright now

I don't know that happened much, "my phone cooled from restoring and screen brightness jumped". I'm sure others aren't noticing that.

And what are you comparing the new iPhone with, do you have an older one to check out?
 
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Put both on 50 or 60%, if they are equal or best case scenario the iPhone 7 is better then that is good news.

My iPhone 7 sucks at 50%, way too dim/dark. My Moto X Pure and iPhone 5s are leaps better. I set my 7 up as a new iPhone when I got it.
 

Mike84

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Has this even made it to the front page of macrumors? I don't think it's be enough to go up to Apple unless people start going into the store and complaining.

I stated this a few posts ago because I was wondering the same thing. I am not sure how Macrumors decides on how and when it posts something to the front page. It may be arbitrary or, their measure, may be in the amount of posts accumulated in one particular thread. I strongly believe it should be posted on the front page stating the at least "some" individuals have been experiencing ip7 screens with either a yellow tint, dim brightness, or both.
 
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Atomic Walrus

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I stated this a few posts ago because I was wondering the same thing. I am not sure how Macrumors decides on how and when it posts something to the front page. It may be arbitrary or, their measure, may be in the amount of posts accumulated in one particular thread. I strongly believe it should be posted on the front page stating the at least "some" individuals have been experiencing ip7 screens with either a yellow tint, dim brightness, or both.

As more people receive their phones this issue will get more attention. Right now no one has been able to demonstrate a 7/+ that is brighter than a 6s, including in-store demo models, but the percentage of people on here who have their phones seems low because of the plus stock issues.

When Displaymate and Anandtech do their reviews we'll have real data that should shed some light on the situation, assuming this isn't a software issue that gets corrected before then.
 

Mike84

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As more people receive their phones this issue will get more attention. Right now no one has been able to demonstrate a 7/+ that is brighter than a 6s, including in-store demo models, but the percentage of people on here who have their phones seems low because of the plus stock issues.

When Displaymate and Anandtech do their reviews we'll have real data that should shed some light on the situation, assuming this isn't a software issue that gets corrected before then.

Excellent point regarding Displaymate and Anandtech. One thing that I will note is that some people I have chatted with about their ip7s don't realize the brightness is less unless they compare it to another iPhone, e.g., 6 or 6s. So, I am hoping that not only do those reviews cast some more technical information on the displays, but that more and more users realize it is not at least 20% brighter.
 
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VSMacOne

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I think it has. Can anyone confirm it?
Apple would've made a big deal about it on stage a couple of weeks ago if they had True Tone on the iPhone. It's only on the iPad presumably due to the hardware parts it requires not fitting in the iPhone yet. I'm sure we'll see it at some point.
 

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Put both on 50 or 60%, if they are equal or best case scenario the iPhone 7 is better then that is good news.

My iPhone 7 sucks at 50%, way too dim/dark. My Moto X Pure and iPhone 5s are leaps better. I set my 7 up as a new iPhone when I got it.

Below are a 7 and 6s at 50%. They are a dead heat imho


IMG_8035.JPG
 

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I stated this a few posts ago because I was wondering the same thing. I am not sure how Macrumors decides on how and when it posts something to the front page. It may be arbitrary or, their measure, may be in the amount of posts accumulated in one particular thread. I strongly believe it should be posted on the front page stating the at least "some" individuals have been experiencing ip7 screens with either a yellow tint, dim brightness, or both.
I am with you. There are what over 150 post on this thread, and it has been at the top of the iPhone sub forum since I posted yesterday. At the very least Macrumors puts in on the front page, and if we are wrong, let Apple explain it to us. I feel like we at least deserve a response from Apple.
 
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I have this problem too my SE screen is much nicer and white balance is correct the 7 has a blue tint to white side by side. 7 is going back, camera noise in low light is worse than SE too. Shocking.
 
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