You’re right, he also talks about how it’s a desktop class experience based on the idea of rendering video. Of course, that’s more related to the Graphics API and surrounding OS than most people seem to think.
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You’re right, he also talks about how it’s a desktop class experience based on the idea of rendering video. Of course, that’s more related to the Graphics API and surrounding OS than most people seem to think.
The point was that with the note 8, Touchwiz is not the slow unwieldy monster people think it to be. It’s getting better and better. The Note 8 stands tall with the iPhone X and iPhone 8 in speedtests which shows Samsung is finally starting to optimise Touchwiz on their phones. They may even be able to destroy the iPhones in speed tests next year as iOS updates seem to be deteriorating in quality while Touchwiz is getting better.
By the way, about your comment on Samsung battery life in the other thread. Went to sleep at midnight yesterday. Battery was at 54% on my 7 Plus. Woke up at 7, did some work on my iPad, looked at my iPhone later and was horrified to see it was at 14%.
Look at that YouTube app in the background.I had terminated the app from the app switcher so why was it still running rogue? What happened to all that talk about iOS background control? I expect something like this on Android, not iOS.
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I thought long and hard. Read many articles and watched many videos. I really like the Note 8, and was skeptical to think the iPhone 8 was any better than the 7. My wife told me she liked the photos my 7 plus took and wanted to trade. Her 6 plus also only had 16gb of storage. I was constantly having to delete apps and offload photos to make room. She was not interested in the 8 so I traded her. (Besides she has been known to drop phones so a glass phone was probably not the best choice). So I gave her my 7 plus with a 128gb hard drive. She really likes the portrait feature and live feature.
I went to the Apple store and purchased an 8 plus. I decided since my whole extended family including the grandkids all use iPhones and FaceTime it was the best choice.
I have to say the 8 plus is a nice phone. Yet, put a case on it and I guarantee you cant tell the difference between a 7 and an 8. On the other hand the 8 is fast. Really fast. Wireless charging is also pretty cool. All in all a nice phone with a nice screen.
I was totally up to learning a new OS, but the Apple Eco system pulled me right back in. Sounds like a line from a mafia movie.
I went to the Apple store and purchased an 8 plus. I decided since my whole extended family including the grandkids all use iPhones and FaceTime it was the best choice.
I have to say the 8 plus is a nice phone. Yet, put a case on it and I guarantee you cant tell the difference between a 7 and an 8. On the other hand the 8 is fast. Really fast. Wireless charging is also pretty cool. All in all a nice phone with a nice screen.
I was totally up to learning a new OS, but the Apple Eco system pulled me right back in. Sounds like a line from a mafia movie.
Still can’t make up my mind on Note 8 or iPhone X. Apple will make the decision for me depending on whether my order gets in on Oct 27. I think FaceID will beat Samsung’s implementation. I wear glasses with high power all the time so let’s see if FaceID works with them. Apple seems confident enough considering they removed TouchID but then again we could end up being beta testers for it.
This is nothing to me because when I got my iPad Pro 12.9 it came with a dead pixel (you can see my thread history for pictures of it) and it took 3 exchanges before I got one without tint and dead pixels and the Apple Store employees always have a slot reserved for me every time a new iPhone launches as I always have issues with screen uniformity. Here’s hoping the iPhone X changes that.
Meh. The ui is way better then Android wear but I like the watch faces of the apple watch then the gear 3 way better and I find using apps on it better as well. Really don't care about your opinion on it and just that I believe that the apple watch is better.
Yeah because benchmarks tells you real life usage. Because that 10,000 multi core score on the A11 chip will make the maybe 0.01 second faster loading speed a better experience to read espn.com. If we want to bring up articles.....
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanwhitwam/2017/09/29/speed-test-shows-galaxy-note-8-beating-iphone-8/
I wonder about this. If the X drops and the preorder gets ugly with 4 to 8 week wait times out the gate, it suggests that’s what you really prefer. In that situation would you always have the X in the back of your mind if you get the Note 8?
Personally I think the Note 8 is the all around more practical device, but those blue bubbles and Apple logo will haunt you daily.
missed the point yet again
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benchmarks are exactly what they are, nothing less, nothing more
in said benchmark, iphone is twice as fast as the fastest android and nobody has any idea how samsung and qualcomm are so far behind. i know i hurts, but it is what it is.
Each has their specialty. Apple for SOC and Samsung for displays. Android will never catch up to iOS in soc while iOS will never catch up to Android in displays.
Go ahead. Explain to me the point and explain to me why anyone should care about Geekbench.
I don't know if I agree with the latter. Besides, most displays look pretty fantastic now. The only means of telling the difference is if you have the devices side by side. And even then, in day to day usage, it all kind of gets washed away.
On that note (no pun intended), I've been using the Note 8 for the last month, and the iPhone 8 Plus for the last week. They're both fantastic, but the OS's and their philosophy are pretty different. Thus the eternal struggle between iOS and Android. For me, personally, I don't understand the animosity each OS brings out in the most fervent of each fanbase. I love them both equally for different reasons. What's great about the Note is even within Android it's such a specific and different beast due to the S-Pen and software that it's probably a waste even comparing it to other Android devices.
The 8 Plus is clearly getting slept on due to the impending arrival of the X, and I gotta say it might become the single best "bargain" in smartphones believe it or not. This is a world class iPhone that may wind up having advantages over it's flashier brother when all is said and done.
AMOLED has always been better if you want more puncher colors and deeper blacks. Lcd can never beat it no matter how much Samsung wants you to believe ironically lol with their TV business using LCD(QLED). That being said Android has been compelling just because Samsung uses AMOLED panels vs LCD.
The argument isn't about better. Samsung produces the best smartphone displays on the planet. I don't think that's arguable. But the point is to the user the differences aren't that great. Most users, anyway. Like, display wouldn't be a deal breaker for me on virtually any 2017 flagship at this point.
Yeah well the differences in soc are even less noticeable. For instance, you can't tell a difference in speed between the 7 Plus, 8 Plus and a Note 8.
iPhone LCD displays are good but when you put it up against the Note 8 oled, it strikes you how dated he tech really is.
Benchmarks are quite useless. Cool the A11 has a multi score of 10,000? Please tell me how useful that is in determining how I read websites, mail or watch video. Please? The A8 can do the same thing or even the snapdragon 800 both which is a few years old now. Most people don't give a crap about the processor and to give you an example my mother uses an iPhone 7 because she's used to ios and doesn't like Android os. Not because of the A10 fusion chip. Put in an A8 and she won't be able to tell the difference. The Snapdragon 835 and A11 are fast enough to handle all tasks people ask it to do.
To also put it in perspective what's the point of having a 4k TV if all you watch is DVDs? Yeah the A11 is more powerful but what's your point if the OS can't fully utilize it.
Android authority actually just posted a video about this
This has happened on desktops with the CPU sector stagnating since Sandy Bridge. There is no reason to believe it won't happen on smartphones too.
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Apple's oled likely won't be as good as the Note oled. Open YouTube videos of both the Note 8 and iPhone x side by side. Even through videos, it's clear the Note is substantially brighter and more vibrant.
Yeah it's not as brighter but Tbh the color and blacks will still be good and reason why I'll be buying one as well to go with my. Note 8.
You don't think Samsung would give its very best OLED screens to Apple, would you? They have to save their best for their own Galaxies.
Nobody really knows about the discussion between Apple and Samsung. And opinion on a this matter is pure speculation, especially in light of revenue for producing parts for Apple.
As I said, if you have a side by side comparison you notice the difference. Otherwise, not really.
I don't agree that there isn't a noticeable speed difference between the Note 8 and the 8 Plus. There sure is. Again, that's not to say the Note 8 is slow by any means, but the 8 Plus "moves" quicker and more fluidly.
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Yes, because Samsung likes money:
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/02/samsung-4-billion-making-iphone-x-parts/
It was mentioned by a reviewer that his Note 8 indoors got much brighter than the iPhone X. Apple has no choice apart from Samsung and they have to take what's given to them.
I played with the iPhone 8 in the Apple Store this weekend and came away with two impressions... its a faster version of my 6s Plus, and its glass and easier to hang on to. Other than that, if you put it in a case, then you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between the 8+ and a 6+. Its the safe play for someone that just wants a newer phone and nothing really new. Wireless charging I guess you get.
I ended up then buying a Note8 and Gear S3 Frontier at the AT&T store, and after a couple of days I'm digging it. The only hassle is my family is all iPhone, so the family chat we've got to find another app to use. I'm going to give it a serious go... not sure if I will make it but so far I am liking everything pretty well. I will say that in my short time playing with both, the iPhone 8 is faster feeling. But that was in the store with nothing loaded on it... but expect that doesn't matter.
I don't think there is a bad choice here. Its great to have competition that don't seem to be copying each other anymore.
Well I wouldn't be so sure about that, AND, FaceID isn't good for a lot of use cases. Them solely providing FaceID and the notch are reasons I'm not going to be a first gen buyer of this one. Not to mention that something like this they can't possibly have enough beta testers for all the odd faces they are going to faced with in the wild. They should have included TouchID and FaceID.
After having the Apple Watch for a couple years and the Gear S3 for 2 days, I don't share the same opinion as you on this. I have spent hours fiddling with the AW settings to get things working well. The interface has always been a little odd... better now then first gen WatchOS, but still odd. After 2 days, I find the Gear S3 way more intuitive. Its also really fast with no lag, and a lot of stuff just working without me fiddling.
As for the look of it, the Apple Watch also looks odd, and they haven't haven't changed it at all in several generations. As its become more popular, its become a style of its own... and people buy the bands which attach in a really cool way. But its always looked kind of goofy. I say that with the fact I've not removed it from my wrist other than to charge it for 2 years. The look of the Gear S3 Frontier I think is much better. The Classic though looks really cheap. I just hope the finish on the Frontier holds up OK and doesn't get all scratched really easily. I have the SS AW, and bought that specifically because it doesn't show scratches and can be buffed out.
And oh yeh... they have watch faces that you can swap out and buy.
I ended up then buying a Note8 and Gear S3 Frontier at the AT&T store, and after a couple of days I'm digging it. The only hassle is my family is all iPhone, so the family chat we've got to find another app to use. I'm going to give it a serious go... not sure if I will make it but so far I am liking everything pretty well. I will say that in my short time playing with both, the iPhone 8 is faster feeling. But that was in the store with nothing loaded on it... but expect that doesn't matter.
I don't think there is a bad choice here. Its great to have competition that don't seem to be copying each other anymore.
Well I wouldn't be so sure about that, AND, FaceID isn't good for a lot of use cases. Them solely providing FaceID and the notch are reasons I'm not going to be a first gen buyer of this one. Not to mention that something like this they can't possibly have enough beta testers for all the odd faces they are going to faced with in the wild. They should have included TouchID and FaceID.
After having the Apple Watch for a couple years and the Gear S3 for 2 days, I don't share the same opinion as you on this. I have spent hours fiddling with the AW settings to get things working well. The interface has always been a little odd... better now then first gen WatchOS, but still odd. After 2 days, I find the Gear S3 way more intuitive. Its also really fast with no lag, and a lot of stuff just working without me fiddling.
As for the look of it, the Apple Watch also looks odd, and they haven't haven't changed it at all in several generations. As its become more popular, its become a style of its own... and people buy the bands which attach in a really cool way. But its always looked kind of goofy. I say that with the fact I've not removed it from my wrist other than to charge it for 2 years. The look of the Gear S3 Frontier I think is much better. The Classic though looks really cheap. I just hope the finish on the Frontier holds up OK and doesn't get all scratched really easily. I have the SS AW, and bought that specifically because it doesn't show scratches and can be buffed out.
And oh yeh... they have watch faces that you can swap out and buy.