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nviz22

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As I said, if you have a side by side comparison you notice the difference. Otherwise, not really.

I don't agree that there isn't a noticeable speed difference between the Note 8 and the 8 Plus. There sure is. Again, that's not to say the Note 8 is slow by any means, but the 8 Plus "moves" quicker and more fluidly.
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Yes, because Samsung likes money:

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/02/samsung-4-billion-making-iphone-x-parts/

They can make $ by still supplying good OLED screens, but not the best OLED screens.
 
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MRU

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It was mentioned by a reviewer that his Note 8 indoors got much brighter than the iPhone X. Apple has no choice apart from Samsung and they have to take what's given to them.

Can we actually remember context here, as it is important.

It was mentioned by MKBHD in a brief hands-on after the announcement. We do not know if the brightness on the X was set to auto-brightness and if TrueTone was turned on. Therefore for any stretch you could hardly say it was a scientific 'metric'.

We will only know how bright the iPhone X screen gets once it has been properly released and properly tested.

MKBHD's comment that 'Note 8 seemed brighter' is not by a longshot a definitive to make declarations. It was merely an observation.
 

I7guy

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It was mentioned by a reviewer that his Note 8 indoors got much brighter than the iPhone X. Apple has no choice apart from Samsung and they have to take what's given to them.
That doesn’t mean Apple accepted parts from the garbage bin. It could have meant Apple asked for those exact panels.
 

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Can we actually remember context here, as it is important.

It was mentioned by MKBHD in a brief hands-on after the announcement. We do not know if the brightness on the X was set to auto-brightness and if TrueTone was turned on. Therefore for any stretch you could hardly say it was a scientific 'metric'.

We will only know how bright the iPhone X screen gets once it has been properly released and properly tested.

MKBHD's comment that 'Note 8 seemed brighter' is not by a longshot a definitive to make declarations. It was merely an observation.

I thought we were going by Apple's site where they say it has a max brightness of 625?
 
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super chimp

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After almost two years use of my Note 5 & iPhone 6S+ I can’t say I’ve ever noticed a particular difference in speed between them.

I think mostly people who do say there’s a big difference either way are involved in self justification of the device they’ve picked.
 

MRU

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I thought we were going by Apple's site where they say it has a max brightness of 625?
I was responding to a post that specifically mentioned the observation from 'a reviewer' .

Likewise it's important to note and acknowledge that Apple's site however is not accurate in that regard and is always conservative. We already know the iPhone 8 plus for example gets just over 800 Nits outdoors. Similar story last year with 7 series.

Simply we won't know the full brightness until it's properly tested once released.

Whilst I do not believe it will get as bright as the Note 8 outdoors - indoors the difference between the two could be very similar, but we won't know for certain until it is released and properly tested.

There is no point at this stage acting like something is definitive based on brief anecdotal evidence, or even Apples spec sheet as that has also proven to be unreliable.
 
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I was responding to a post that specifically mentioned the observation from 'a reviewer' .

Likewise it's important to note and acknowledge that Apple's site however is not accurate in that regard and is always conservative. We already know the iPhone 8 plus for example gets just over 800 Nits outdoors. Similar story last year with 7 series.

Simply we won't know the full brightness until it's properly tested once released.

Whilst I do not believe it will get as bright as the Note 8 outdoors - indoors the difference between the two could be very similar, but we won't know for certain until it is released and properly tested.

There is no point at this stage acting like something is definitive based on brief anecdotal evidence, or even Apples spec sheet as that has also proven to be unreliable.

Yeah, anyone who quotes a reviewer should be ignored. We can't go with any reviewer because they couldn't have reviewed it yet.
 

MRU

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Yeah, anyone who quotes a reviewer should be ignored. We can't go with any reviewer because they couldn't have reviewed it yet.
In fairness they merely meant I suspect the comment was 'from a reviewer' but not that the comment was from a review per say.

That's why I responded to clarify and give context to the post. That it was in no way a review but just a comment from a brief hands-on, and one which we do not have any parameters (auto-brightness, true-tone)
 
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Michael Goff

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In fairness they merely meant I suspect the comment was 'from a reviewer' but not that the comment was from a review per say.

That's why I responded to clarify and give context to the post. That it was in no way a review but just a comment from a brief hands-on, and one which we do not have any parameters (auto-brightness, true-tone)

That's why you're a better person than me.
 
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Radon87000

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I actually hope its as close a display to the Note 8 as we can get (although looking at the hands on I still find the Note display a better looker) as a stock OS with Samsung's top end hardware is just what I need . Reading the front page news about FaceID has me looking forward to using this technology as other competitiors seem to be having some compromises for biometrics. Cant wait for the 27th.
 

yellowscreen

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Go ahead. Explain to me the point and explain to me why anyone should care about Geekbench.
allow mr Gary to explain it to you
http://www.androidauthority.com/why-are-apples-chips-faster-than-qualcomms-gary-explains-802738/
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Benchmarks are quite useless. Cool the A11 has a multi score of 10,000? Please tell me how useful that is in determining how I read websites, mail or watch video. Please?

if thats all you do with your phone, stay in the midrange. as you said, you wont notice the difference
 

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nviz22

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Maybe. Dunno. The customer gets a say in what's delivered, especially at those prices.

With Apple, it's more customer obeys than says.
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Just report em, that's the best way to deal with the 25 page "discussions" these guys have over every little tiny minutiae of nothing and nothing and nothing. It's comical that after 25 pages of chest beating diatribes neither of them has proven anything whatsoever. News flash, some people like iphones, some people like android phones, the world moves on.

Some folks don't have anything better to do than to take one side or the other while lambasting the other respective side. As primitive as iOS can be, it still has merits: no frills, tons of updates, a lot of dev support, doesn't have fragmentation, and simply works. Android, as flexible as it is, is hit or miss with the companies. Samsung is ahead of everyone else for major reasons: bevy of features, high end cameras, top notch hardware, strong build quality, SD slots, etc. You can get a Sony device crippled from the beginning because they cannot use a FP sensor here. You had boot loops with LG up until the V20 and G6. BLU had some spy-wear.

Different strokes for different folks. I made the switch to Android and am happy. I might switch back to iOS for my next daily driver whether if that's a year from now or three years from now. My Note 8 is my phone until it craps out. I have the iPad mini to roll with for iOS.
 

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Just report em, that's the best way to deal with the 25 page "discussions" these guys have over every little tiny minutiae of nothing and nothing and nothing. It's comical that after 25 pages of chest beating diatribes neither of them has proven anything whatsoever. News flash, some people like iphones, some people like android phones, the world moves on.
Reporting posts that you feel violate the macrumors rules for appropriate debate is the way to go.
 

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I'm still wondering why we are comparing a iPhone 8 to the Note 8. I believe comparisons should be made by closest screen size. The only phone that any flagship iPhone even the upcoming iPhone X (5.8 inches) should be compared to is the 5.8 inch S8. It still surprises me that even the S8 will have more screen real estate than the iPhone X especially when watching video. The S8 also has more ram and it's half the price.
 
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yellowscreen

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Read the whole article, where he points out how CPU strength is becoming less and less meaningful.
whos talking about 'meaningfulness' of the cpu, i sure aint. however, i am talking about cpu performance and how far behind android is. the why and how's are summed up pretty nicely by gary
 

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whos talking about 'meaningfulness' of the cpu, i sure aint. however, i am talking about cpu performance and how far behind android is. the why and how's are summed up pretty nicely by gary

Yes, Qualcomm is behind in terms of pure CPU power. But Apple has a pointlessly powerful CPU. Qualcomm is only behind on paper. Real experience doesn't show the CPU strength meaning much of anything.
 
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Yes, Qualcomm is behind in terms of pure CPU power.
is there any other kind? dirty?

But Apple has a pointlessly powerful CPU. Qualcomm is only behind on paper. Real experience doesn't show the CPU strength meaning much of anything.
its not behind on paper -its behind in cpu benchmarks. whats so hard to grasp? the concept really isnt overly complicated.

regarding the real life scenarios, off the top of my head 4k 60fps recording and encoding videos. not really otherworldly scenarios, right?

also, do i need to bring up 640k quote?

repeat after me - twice as fast
 

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is there any other kind? dirty?


its not behind on paper -its behind in cpu benchmarks. whats so hard to grasp? the concept really isnt overly complicated.

regarding the real life scenarios, off the top of my head 4k 60fps recording and encoding videos. not really otherworldly scenarios, right?

also, do i need to bring up 640k quote?

repeat after me - twice as fast
Hardly anyone is going to be recording in 4k/60 though. Especially if you didn't buy the 256gb model as there is no expandable storage option. Qualcomm isn't up to snuff but that's not the example I would use.
 
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is there any other kind? dirty?


its not behind on paper -its behind in cpu benchmarks. whats so hard to grasp? the concept really isnt overly complicated.

regarding the real life scenarios, off the top of my head 4k 60fps recording and encoding videos. not really otherworldly scenarios, right?

also, do i need to bring up 640k quote?

repeat after me - twice as fast

Rendering 4k video is more GPU than CPU. But good try.
 
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is there any other kind? dirty?


its not behind on paper -its behind in cpu benchmarks. whats so hard to grasp? the concept really isnt overly complicated.

regarding the real life scenarios, off the top of my head 4k 60fps recording and encoding videos. not really otherworldly scenarios, right?

also, do i need to bring up 640k quote?

repeat after me - twice as fast


As someone who has both the Note 8, and a 7+ with iOS 11, my Note 8 is pretty dang smooth whereas my 7+ stutters with so many simple app animations.

But hey, if you want to run geekbench all day, feel free.
 
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