iPhone domination

[gotluck]

The only one that even remotely affects me is the email attachment support. It's my last iOS bugaboo.

Other than that, I have alternatives/no use for anything else you listed.

Well, when you actually come up with something useful, please feel free to try again. I could not care less or need ANY of the items you mentioned.

thats all fine and dandy, just saying, they asked these items are useful to me

no offense goofy, but Im not trying to find a list of items you care about, you dont even seem to understand half the items on the list

just annoys me when people act like there are no differences / feature parity

 

[I7guy]

Saying that they didn't released a big screen until done right means that the others are not doing it right.

Funny thing is talking about battery life when one of the big things said about Android phablets were they do that to have a bigger battery.

No, I think Apple meant they do it to until they are happy with the results.

 

[jrswizzle]

I'm really tires of accusations like this. Find just one ****ing post accusing Apple of nefarious intentions or greed. Just one.
If you don't find one, and you won't find, please, stop putting thing in my mouth.

My God, it is really tiresome to be in a site were people just think in black and white.



Perhaps some Android fans think that but I'm not one of them so I don't know why the heck you make this comment to me.

It couldn't possibly be because of what you insinuate in your posts. You're quite good at toeing the line and saying things without really saying them.

Or, perhaps you really didn't mean what you typed to come across the way it did. Whatever.

At the end of the day, the sentiment is that Apple withholds features and screws/tricks customers into buying their inferior products. As a customer of Apple that offends me - I'm plenty smart enough to make my own decisions.

And perhaps it really is true that Apple simply holds back features until they feel they can successfully implement said features without causing any issues. Seems like they could have used a little more of that restraint recently.

 

[I7guy]

well, he asked about 'missing' functionality and nobody was answering..

I hope you aren't arguing there is feature parity between the platforms at least unjailbroken

Sure you included sd cards, file systems et al. Can't argue that, but there are alternatives such as the new mophie case and of course IOS has FaceTime and iMessage, which you can argue android does video calling...

 

[jrswizzle]

thats all fine and dandy, just saying, they asked these items are useful to me

no offense goofy, but Im not trying to find a list of items you care about, you dont even seem to understand half the items on the list

just annoys me when people act like there are no differences / feature parity

On the other hand, it annoys me when people post particular implementations of some feature and claim that the competition doesn't have it when the reality is the end result is easily obtainable by another, no more difficult, method.

Features and tasks are different. Implementations can be different. I'd argue there is more implementation parity than overall feature parity.

And there's nothing wrong with that as people prefer to do the same tasks in different ways.

 

[goofy1958]

So, what's the hold up with Apple adding more than 1GB DRAM that's two years overdue other than prfit$?

Didn't say Apple wasn't in it to make a profit, but I have not had any problems with my 1GB. Of course, that is just me, and others complain about it all the time. Just not important to me.

 

[gotluck]

On the other hand, it annoys me when people post particular implementations of some feature and claim that the competition doesn't have it when the reality is the end result is easily obtainable by another, no more difficult, method.

Features and tasks are different. Implementations can be different. I'd argue there is more implementation parity than overall feature parity.

And there's nothing wrong with that as people prefer to do the same tasks in different ways.

I would argue that any implementation of a feature I have listed on ios is more of a workaround with negative consequences. such as needing a case which ads bulk

 

[jrswizzle]

Saying that they didn't released a big screen until done right means that the others are not doing it right.

Funny thing is talking about battery life when one of the big things said about Android phablets were they do that to have a bigger battery.

Talk about seeing things as only black or white.....

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I would argue that any implementation of a feature I have listed on ios is more of a workaround with negative consequences.

And I would disagree with you on most (save the one I mentioned and the whole PS4 thing).

 

[gotluck]

Talk about seeing things as only black or white.....

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And I would disagree with you on most (save the one I mentioned and the whole PS4 thing).

how can you do those other things on ios?

save from just buying more internal storage to alleviate the need for external

I would love to know how to get continuity / notification mirroring on windows in particular

 

[jrswizzle]

how can you do those other things on ios?

save from just buying more internal storage to alleviate the need for external

Look at why you need external storage - I don't because I have plenty on board and plenty in the cloud.

If I want to add more, there are a few case options that add more storage.

 

[goofy1958]

thats all fine and dandy, just saying, they asked these items are useful to me

no offense goofy, but Im not trying to find a list of items you care about, you dont even seem to understand half the items on the list

just annoys me when people act like there are no differences / feature parity

I never said there is parity in features. I asked pdqgp what functionality that Android has that my iPhone does not have that would make me want to rush out and purchase any Android phone. You listed different items (though I'm still waiting for an answer for a few items), and I simply replied that I either couldn't care less, or did not know what that feature was useful for(such as ir blasters).

So please enlighten me on the features you don't think I understand. I would love to hear the answers to the questions I posed in my reply.

 

[Oletros]

It couldn't possibly be because of what you insinuate in your posts. You're quite good at toeing the line and saying things without really saying them.

Find a post from me insinuating or saying what you accused me. Well, you're still accusing me of that.

Or you find one or stop insulting me. I'm really tired of people like you, accusing others without a ****ing proof.

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I have looked at the screens for many other smartphones - Samsung, LG, HTC, and yes, most of them are crap compared to the iPhone. IMHO.

Talk about seeing things as only black or white.....

Well, if you talk about the OP, yes, black and white. If you talk about me, well, it is another false accusation, but it is not strange coming from you

 

[pdqgp]

Hmm, so no answer to my question of what functionality that we isheep are missing that Android has. Big surprise there.

don't be surprised, it was never a point I've brought up in this thread. I'll pass on trying to be a mind reader as to what you personally might deem valuable and await for you to continue shooting down points that don't. I won't be surprised.

Tim Cook mentioned in an interview that they could have released a larger screen iphone years ago, but chose not to until they could get it right. It isn't just about pixels as some people think. Add in color saturation, chromatic consistency, battery life, and a host of other reasons for wanting the best display possible for the phone, and that is why they waited. Not because they wanted to dribble out features.

keep telling yourself that.

I feel that Apple waits until a technology is mature and can be implemented in the best way possible, rather than the throw everything at it, and see what sticks method of some manufacturers.

keep telling yourself that.

One example is LTE. Most android phones had it well before Apple, but the early chips drained the battery like crazy. Apple waited until the tech matured to the point where it did not affect battery life nearly as much. That's called good engineering.

keep telling yourself that.

 

[goofy1958]

how can you do those other things on ios?

save from just buying more internal storage to alleviate the need for external

I would love to know how to get continuity / notification mirroring on windows in particular

I have to agree with jrswizzle on the storage needs. I have a 128GB iPhone 6+. with almost 40GB free still. Several thousand songs, several thousand pictures, a dozen movies, almost 100 apps. Plenty of storage for me.

Well, I guess if continuity / mirroring to windows is important to you, then you will need to go Android or jailbreak. For me. Meh. Not a feature I would even use. What do you use it for?

 

[gotluck]

Look at why you need external storage - I don't because I have plenty on board and plenty in the cloud.

If I want to add more, there are a few case options that add more storage.

I dont need external either. Internal and the cloud exist in android too. SD card is a hell of a lot better than a bulky case though IMO. I would never say no to or complain about having SD slot. it is a net positive

 

[pdqgp]

Well, when you actually come up with something useful, please feel free to try again. I could not care less or need ANY of the items you mentioned.

so the real question was for everyone to come up with what you deem worthy as a feature? Gotcha...

The fact that iPhone still overcharges everyone more storage is stupid but profitable. Kudos to them for getting people to overpay. <no shocked>

 

[Fireblade]

I have looked at the screens for many other smartphones - Samsung, LG, HTC, and yes, most of them are crap compared to the iPhone. IMHO.

You should say IMiO

 

[goofy1958]

don't be surprised, it was never a point I've brought up in this thread.

Actually, yes you did when you replied to I7guy (bolded for your benefit):

It's far from ridiculous. Again, I need not worry about proving it to you. I know you know it's true. It's the Apple way to keep users from having full functionality and anyone who has ever owned an iDevice knows it too. Don't be mad bro....it's a beautiful thing and the driving force behind making Apple all those profits that the others only wish they could have...you know the stuff you like to for some reason brag about. Perhaps in your universe you're the defender of all things Apple with a big red cape hanging over your shoulders. I don't know. Sounds like fun man.

If the others only had only not given their customers such a big piece of steak all at once so many years ago.

Your statement implies that there is functionality in Android that is not available on my iPhone that would entice me to rush out and buy an Android phone, since I have been making such stupid purchases these past several years, and all I asked for was what exactly am I missing. Gotluck tried with a few, but none of those interest me, so please feel free to add to his list.

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so the real question was for everyone to come up with what you deem worthy as a feature? Gotcha...

The fact that iPhone still overcharges everyone more storage is stupid but profitable. Kudos to them for getting people to overpay. <no shocked>

No. You stated that Android already has the big piece of steak, and we don't. Just because those particular features don't impress me, doesn't mean you shouldn't try to come up with one that does.

 

[pdqgp]

I have looked at the screens for many other smartphones - Samsung, LG, HTC, and yes, most of them are crap compared to the iPhone. IMHO.

^^ saying something like that shows a lack of credibility IMO.

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Actually, yes you did when you replied to I7guy (bolded for your benefit):

Your statement implies that there is functionality in Android that is not available on my iPhone that would entice me to rush out and buy an Android phone, since I have been making such stupid purchases these past several years, and all I asked for was what exactly am I missing.

Big screen. I already answered that. Even SJ himself said back in 2010 that no one would buy phones with big screens...then for years others got flack for having them and now the world sees Apple finally saw the light.... It's the same for many of the features added over the years.

 

[jrswizzle]

I dont need external either. Internal and the cloud exist in android too. SD card is a hell of a lot better than a bulky case though IMO. I would never say no to or complain about having SD slot. it is a net positive

Sure, but ultimately inconsequential.

Most of the things you list are apps/things rather than tasks to be completed. I can't really argue with them - which I know contradicts what I said earlier....didn't have the list in front of me.

At any rate, there are plenty of valid reasons people choose each platform/smartphone. That's cool with me - I don't really mind.

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don't be surprised, it was never a point I've brought up in this thread. I'll pass on trying to be a mind reader as to what you personally might deem valuable and await for you to continue shooting down points that don't. I won't be surprised.



keep telling yourself that.



keep telling yourself that.



keep telling yourself that.

Hey Oletros - I must've had you confused with this guy.....my bad. I apologize.

As for you, keep assuming Apple's out to dupe everyone. That's fine. At the end of the day, why does anyone really care what/why another person chooses what smartphone they use? Why does it matter?

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^^ saying something like that shows a lack of credibility IMO.

Why? Apple is consistently praised for having the best displays on the market. The only one I would disagree with the OP on is Samsung. Over the last 2 or so years, they've ironed out most, if not all, of the kinks in OLED and their displays are really, really nice.

Big screen. I already answered that. Even SJ himself said back in 2010 that no one would buy phones with big screens...then for years others got flack for having them and now the world sees Apple finally saw the light.... It's the same for many of the features added over the years.

Big screens aren't functionality. They are preference. Some didn't realize they preferred them, others knew from the start, some still don't even after using them. Preference.

A bigger screen doesn't inherently provide the user with additional functionality. Now if you take that screen space and do something useful with it, the functionality can come.

But to say, my phone has a bigger screen therefore its more useful, is ridiculous.

I also always laugh when people say "SEEEE Steve Jobs was wrong!"...as if the man isn't infallible. Newsflash, he was a human being and wrong about a lot of things. At the time, the trend was not to go to larger screens.

Apple only did so when they felt their customer base wanted it and when they could make up for the added display real estate and all the things that come with that (battery drain, more power to push pixels, one-handed usablility etc).

I have no doubt Apple still feels the optimal smartphone size is something around 4". But that doesn't mean they have to continue to make those while the market moves a different way.

And let's not forget - "big screens" have NOT been the majority. The iPhone was STILL the best selling smartphone at 4" and the Note series hadn't sold more than 50 million units until this year.

You can claim Apple is a "follower" - and that's true to the extent they aren't generally on the bleeding edge. But look at what's come of Apple's foray into the 4.7" and phablet categories. Absolute boom.

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Please see above. I apologize.

 

[goofy1958]

The fact that iPhone still overcharges everyone more storage is stupid but profitable. Kudos to them for getting people to overpay. <no shocked>

Hmm, here are the full retail prices for a few phones:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 - 32GB max internal - 825.99
Samsung Galaxy S5 - 16GB max internal - 649.99
Nexus 6 - 32GB max internal - 682.99
HTC One (M8) - 32GB max internal - 669.99
LG G3 - 32GB max internal - 478.99
iPhone 6 - 64GB internal - 749.99
iPhone 6 plus - 64GB internal - 849.99

Obviously, the iPhones are more expensive, and no one argues that point. We, the people that purchase them, think they are worth more. Oh, and then we can look at resale value as well. It really seems that the iPhones hold their value much better.

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^^ saying something like that shows a lack of credibility IMO.

Why is that? I checked them out, and didn't like what I saw. I did add that it was in my opinion, and that's all it is. Heck, that's all ANY of this is. Our opinion on what is best for us. Buy what you want.

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^^ saying something like that shows a lack of credibility IMO.

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Big screen. I already answered that. Even SJ himself said back in 2010 that no one would buy phones with big screens...then for years others got flack for having them and now the world sees Apple finally saw the light.... It's the same for many of the features added over the years.

OK, so the ONLY functionality you were speaking of was a bigger screen? My bad, and I apologize for misunderstanding that. I really thought you were talking about us missing a lot more functionality than a big screen.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

My iPhone is 64GB which is plenty. The screen is nice but i'll be honest and say I would have bought another iphone regardless of its size. It has all the functionality I need in a smartphone, email, text, phone, social media, web, what else do people need? Sure, it won't tell me the temperature of my eyeball, or make me a cup of tea but it's a good hone nonetheless. Geeks like tonnes of features and this is why it's debated so much on here. In the real world most people don't care for endless lists of guff that can be played off other devices to make them feel better about themselves. I could probably get the same type if experience with an equally great Android phone but I have chosen the iPhone for now. It's a winner and is deservedly popular as a result. Cheers all

 

[epicrayban]

Sure, but ultimately inconsequential.

Most of the things you list are apps/things rather than tasks to be completed. I can't really argue with them - which I know contradicts what I said earlier....didn't have the list in front of me.

At any rate, there are plenty of valid reasons people choose each platform/smartphone. That's cool with me - I don't really mind.

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Hey Oletros - I must've had you confused with this guy.....my bad. I apologize.

As for you, keep assuming Apple's out to dupe everyone. That's fine. At the end of the day, why does anyone really care what/why another person chooses what smartphone they use? Why does it matter?

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Why? Apple is consistently praised for having the best displays on the market. The only one I would disagree with the OP on is Samsung. Over the last 2 or so years, they've ironed out most, if not all, of the kinks in OLED and their displays are really, really nice.





Big screens aren't functionality. They are preference. Some didn't realize they preferred them, others knew from the start, some still don't even after using them. Preference.

A bigger screen doesn't inherently provide the user with additional functionality. Now if you take that screen space and do something useful with it, the functionality can come.

But to say, my phone has a bigger screen therefore its more useful, is ridiculous.

I also always laugh when people say "SEEEE Steve Jobs was wrong!"...as if the man isn't infallible. Newsflash, he was a human being and wrong about a lot of things. At the time, the trend was not to go to larger screens.

Apple only did so when they felt their customer base wanted it and when they could make up for the added display real estate and all the things that come with that (battery drain, more power to push pixels, one-handed usablility etc).

I have no doubt Apple still feels the optimal smartphone size is something around 4". But that doesn't mean they have to continue to make those while the market moves a different way.

And let's not forget - "big screens" have NOT been the majority. The iPhone was STILL the best selling smartphone at 4" and the Note series hadn't sold more than 50 million units until this year.

You can claim Apple is a "follower" - and that's true to the extent they aren't generally on the bleeding edge. But look at what's come of Apple's foray into the 4.7" and phablet categories. Absolute boom.

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Please see above. I apologize.

I'm not sure I get your point about big screens being only preference and nothing to do with functionality. There is no functionality to a big screen at all? Even to those who may not prefer it?

If that's the case can't that be said about every feature that someone might not necessarily prefer? For example I dislike touch id in my iPhone 6. I think it's unreliable and too many times it doesn't read or requires me to scan again, ironically slowing me down. I've essentially turned it off because I prefer a pass code. Does that mean touch ID doesnt have any functionality and is only a preference thing, not a feature with functions? All because I don't prefer using it?

Just because someone doesn't prefer using x feature doesn't mean it has nothing to do with functionality. No?

 

[jrswizzle]

I'm not sure I get your point about big screens being only preference and nothing to do with functionality. There is no functionality to a big screen at all? Even to those who may not prefer it?

If that's the case can't that be said about every feature that someone might not necessarily prefer? For example I dislike touch id in my iPhone 6. I think it's unreliable and too many times it doesn't read or requires me to scan again, ironically slowing me down. I've essentially turned it off because I prefer a pass code. Does that mean touch ID doesnt have any functionality and is only a preference thing, not a feature with functions? All because I don't prefer using it?

Just because someone doesn't prefer using x feature doesn't mean it has nothing to do with functionality. No?

No, just that adding display real estate doesn't INHERENTLY mean added functionality. Of course, the functionality can come and can be aided by a larger screen.

TouchID and a larger display are not analogous in my mind. Preference or not.

 

[apolloa]

iphone users are missing (without jailbreak):
full bluetooth stack
full nfc
external storage
ir blasters
potential removable battery
full email attachment support
cross platform continuity
device automation available with tasker
flash (haha)
ps4 remote play

that's all i got for now

Yeah the bluetooth stack in iOS is an utter total joke! It'll be interesting to see how well t works with Apple Play, but then again that's Apple, ignore what the industry does and has working fine with no problems and make their own broken system no one wants..

It's a sore point with me, trying to get POS iOS working with my Ford was a right pain, every single time Apple updated iOS they broke the bluetooth.