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iPhone SE (2016) iPhone SE (2020)
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This device is not exciting At all. I mean the price and the internals are good but same battery life as the iPhone 8? That's a let down.
Because when Apple sells more A13, they recoup their upfront engineering costs faster.
That isn't true for the camera sensor, which Apple buys from Sony.
Neither was the SE, look how successful that phone was. I don’t think Apple really was trying to make this phone ‘exciting’, it barely has any marketing and a lack there of keynote to follow. This phone offers the essentials, that’s what it’s all about. I don’t think anyone expects this phone to be exciting in terms of the ‘technological advancements’, but more about expanding to a demographic that wants entry level iPhone without all the added price points of the more expensive features. You have to kind of see past that given what you said, and you mentioned the other day that it should have some ‘type of new design’. I suspect you have a misconception of what this phone is really intended to be.
Because to make an inexpensive iPhone, corners have to be cut. This phone is all about having an inexpensive iPhone that performs well and will last for some years. It is an iPhone 8 with a better SoC and $50 cheaper than the 8's last price. Seems like a nice phone to me. Want the better cameras? Pay up for one of the other iPhone options.
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Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
1. Looks almost identical :
2. Exactly the same screen:
3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
4. Both have Touch ID :
5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
7. Dimension are 99% the same :
...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
1. Looks almost identical :
2. Exactly the same screen:
3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
4. Both have Touch ID :
5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
7. Dimension are 99% the same :
...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
This is what the first SE should have had IMO (Newest or at least 2nd newest internals.) The price is much better than the first SE too... IMO (much more bang for your buck.)
I was thinking of getting a Gold iPhone 8 for a backup iPhone but wanted to wait if there would be an SE 2, Annnnd here it is, (but only in Red, White, and Black) 😱😱😱
I wish they did the same colors they’ve been doing for the past however many iPhone releases.
Guess I’m going iPhone 8 hunting today, hopefully some stores will still have some in stock and hopefully there are some sales that pop-up.
Anyhoo, this SE 2 took a bit longer to be released (silly Apple) but at least Apple did do it.
...But again... no gold! Bah I say! Bah to you Apple! 😉😂
*I should have bought the 8 when I had the chance.
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I was thinking of getting a Gold iPhone 8 for a backup iPhone but wanted to wait if there would be an SE 2, Annnnd here it is, (but only in Red, White, and Black) 😱😱😱
I wish they did the same colors they’ve been doing for the past however many iPhone releases.
Guess I’m going iPhone 8 hunting today, hopefully some stores will still have some in stock and hopefully there are some sales that pop-up.
Anyhoo, this SE 2 took a bit longer to be released (silly Apple) but at least Apple did do it.
...But again... no gold! Bah I say! Bah to you Apple! 😉😂
*I should have bought the 8 when I had the chance.
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I agree actually, well mostly... but I will say the A8 wasn’t the best processor, the A8X was incredible, the fact this model comes with current chips and tech does make it better than when the SE 1 came out.Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
1. Looks almost identical :
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2. Exactly the same screen:
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3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
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4. Both have Touch ID :
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5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
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6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
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7. Dimension are 99% the same :
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...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
1. Looks almost identical :
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2. Exactly the same screen:
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3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
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4. Both have Touch ID :
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5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
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6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
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7. Dimension are 99% the same :
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...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
Wasn't this exactly the case with the 5S VS SE back then as well? The comparison was precisely this back then.
It's a budget phone with the speed of the iPhone 11 at the price of $399. I think it's a perfect reasonable phone to get your son if you don't want to spend too much money.
This phone makes perfect sense for my wife and I. Her LG is slowing down and she wants an iPhone. This gives her a chance to get a new phone and to finally get an iPhone. This also allows me to upgrade from my 6s at the same time. There’s no way we could afford two 11s or 11 Pros.
This phone has a new chip and will be supported for awhile so we’re going to give our daughter the 6s as a first phone to see how she does with it. If she does well my wife will give her her SE when she gets a 12. This phone is good enough I don’t mind holding onto it for a little bit.
My main things are camera (yes I wish it was a little better), speed/chip and if the screen resolution. I know it’s not an OLED but for the price I wasn’t expecting it to be. For the price the phone meets most of my needs. I don’t use Touch ID now because of the Otterbox cover and I don’t care about Face ID. I just use the passcode.
This phone has a new chip and will be supported for awhile so we’re going to give our daughter the 6s as a first phone to see how she does with it. If she does well my wife will give her her SE when she gets a 12. This phone is good enough I don’t mind holding onto it for a little bit.
My main things are camera (yes I wish it was a little better), speed/chip and if the screen resolution. I know it’s not an OLED but for the price I wasn’t expecting it to be. For the price the phone meets most of my needs. I don’t use Touch ID now because of the Otterbox cover and I don’t care about Face ID. I just use the passcode.
The iPhone SE was pretty much a 5s with faster chipset, more RAM and better camera.Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
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...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
The iPhone SE2 sports the same improvements compared to iPhone 6-8. Given the precedence and $399 entry level price point, I don't get why a lot of people are expecting it to be significantly different.
The iPad 5th gen and 6th gen are pretty much the same as 2013 iPad Air with updated chipset. I expect the only reason Apple bothered modifying the iPad 7th gen is so they can sell more $150 Apple Smart Keyboards and provide a better alternative to Chromebooks.
The iPhone 6 wasn't a good performer to begin with. Sure, it got an A8 but frankly, that pretty much barely coped with the increase in resolution coming from 5s. I certainly wouldn't want to use one as a daily driver 2 years ago much less now (and I'm a fairly light user).
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The SE did have newest internals back when it was released in Spring 2016 (Apple A9/2GB RAM same as iPhone 6s) and it was also priced at $399.
Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
1. Looks almost identical :
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2. Exactly the same screen:
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3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
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4. Both have Touch ID :
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5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
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6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
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7. Dimension are 99% the same :
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...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
Disagree
way better camera. 5 processors ahead. Second generation Touch ID that isn’t a physical press but haptic. Wireless charging. Way better battery. More ram. true tone
A 6s or 7 was even a huge leap from 6 imo
Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
1. Looks almost identical :
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2. Exactly the same screen:
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3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
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4. Both have Touch ID :
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5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
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6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
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7. Dimension are 99% the same :
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...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
By that logic people would never buy a new car...
Old car had 4 wheels same as the new car,
Engine performs better but what if you don’t use your car for performance,
Both have remote central locking and an alarm,
Both have the same dimensions but just had a facelift...
The new SE is better than the 6 in every possible way! It’s future proof so will last if looked after at least half a decade with support and updates, apps etc will continue to work as they should and perform perfectly, battery life will be much better, will have more storage than your son’s 6 I expect, better modem for connection and connection speeds etc...
Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
1. Looks almost identical :
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2. Exactly the same screen:
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3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
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4. Both have Touch ID :
View attachment 906392
5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
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6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
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7. Dimension are 99% the same :
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...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
Fair enough, if it's not going to be a worthwhile upgrade for your son's iPhone 6, then you may have to sit this one out.
The iPhone 12 5.4" model might be more up your alley if you're willing to splurge a bit more on his replacement device. Stay tuned later this year and see if that works. Others will disagree on the type of an upgrade between the SE and the 6. I completely disagree with it, but that's only my opinion too.
$400 for the SE 2020 is a great deal, IMO.
Agreed. The SE (2020) is a much better phone than the 6. The 6 can't even get iOS 13. At $399 USD it's way more affordable than the 11 (which is nearly double the price and has the same A13 chip).
The leap from the 6 to 6s was indeed significant and they're only a generation apart. The RAM doubled, Touch ID upgraded (1st Gen to 2nd Gen), considerably better cameras, AR support, taptic engine, etc. I honestly think people currently rocking the 6s generally don't have to upgrade. A battery replacement would suffice. Yes, I upgraded mine but that was because my parents' 6 (yes they share a phone) was on its last legs and I gave them my 6s.
Actually 6S users can use this upgrade.
I am still currently using a 6S Plus and had a 8 Plus a while back, and while using both, the speed difference is already apparent in 3rd party apps. Even though the 6S is no slouch, the 8 Plus is always clearly ahead. Since the new SE comes with the iPhone 11's chip, the disparity in speed between it and the 6S will be even bigger.
There's also only 1 bottom firing speaker on the 6S, which is frankly not very loud. The Dual Speakers on the SE will be an upgrade for those who watch YouTube videos a lot. Camera is definitely an upgrade as well.
Only thing that remains to be seen is the Battery Life. Hope Tech Reviewers will touch on this.
That’s funny. I don’t care about that but seems a pointless deletion. Alot of these phones would likely sell to a younger crowds with less disposable income, and they’d be the most likely to want that feature.
Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
1. Looks almost identical :
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2. Exactly the same screen:
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3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
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4. Both have Touch ID :
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5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
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6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
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7. Dimension are 99% the same :
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...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
The iPhone 6 is antiquated and does not support iOS 13. I’m not so sure this is a correct apples-to-apples comparison. IPhone 6 does not support WiFi 6, wireless charging, Bluetooth 5.0, etc.
Initially, the SE looks good but on closer inspection, it is pretty underwhelming, even when compared to an iPhone 6 :
1. Looks almost identical :
View attachment 906388
2. Exactly the same screen:
View attachment 906390
3. Ok, has a better camera but if you don't take loads of pics, this is a moot point :
View attachment 906391
4. Both have Touch ID :
View attachment 906392
5. Ok, chip is better, which means it will work faster :
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6. Resolution count is EXACTLY the same :
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7. Dimension are 99% the same :
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...so really not a worthwhile upgrade if you ask me (was gonna upgrade my son's old iPhone 6).
You're comparison did the opposite for me. The A13 isn't some trivial difference. Not to mention you get an extra gig of ram. Also the 6 is no longer getting IOS updates another huge reason to upgrade. Those 3 things alone make a big difference.
Was thinking of preordering it even thought I currently own the 11 pro. Just was thinking of getting it because of how cheap it is and a solid backup to even just try out.
Well to be fair I didn't say 6s users shouldn't upgrade but that they don't have to. No doubt the SE (2020) has improvements over the 6s including faster performance. 6s users can upgrade to the new SE if they wish. But the 6s is still going strong and holding up well. It's more like the 7 than the 6. It's likely it'll get iOS 14 and I wouldn't be surprised if it'll also get iOS 15. So it'll most likely remain supported for a while yet.
I have noticed that my 8+ is slightly faster than my old 6s with louder speakers, better cameras, wireless charging, better battery life and True Tone. Wouldn't say they're life changing but they're welcome additions for sure. I compared my 8+ with my friend's XR side by side doing speed tests and whatnot and they're about the same speed to me. I'd imagine the XR and the new SE (as well as the 11 series) should be virtually identical in speed. A13 devices are probably only very slightly faster than A11 ones which in turn are slightly faster than A9 ones. So all in all, the SE (2020) is an affordable upgrade with noticeable improvements from the 6s or SE (2016) but totally optional.
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I certainly have no need for Animojis and Memojis. I hardly ever use the stickers made available on iOS 13 on my 8+. Many of my acquaintances with notched iPhones have never used them so they probably have no need for them either.
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