iPhone X iPhone X Flakegate? iPhone X Space Grey Finish Flaking

[Brandonjr36]

I guess time will tell with more data and information whether this is a real problem or not, but this person's Space Grey iPhone X's surface is terribly flaked. If it's true, and if the surface is easily flaked, it reminds me of the early Titanium PowerBooks that flaked bad.

I can tell you this. After spending so much money on this phone, people will not be happy if this becomes widespread.

Now, does anyone want to partner on an iPhone X refinishing business?

Read more with photos:

http://bgr.com/2017/11/15/iphone-x-space-gray-stainless-steel-scratches-photos/

That’s a phone someone on YouTube put through hell. I remember seeing it on a video He put it through hell. On extreme testing it’s gonna have those marks. I’m almost positive I saw that in a video.

 

[44267547]

"gate" immediately loses credibility with me. Nuff said...

What's interesting, is how many people use the word "Gate" and they have no idea what the definition or even true meaning behind what that actually is.

 

[nasa25]

"gate" immediately loses credibility with me. Nuff said...

Was just about to post this verbatim.

Using the term ‘gate’ is the real travesty here.

Op srs question...did you consider being more creative with you iPhone scandal naming conventions?

Gate gets 0/10 on the creativity scale.

If Apple had some water related iPhone issues then using the term watergate would be funny. But that’s it. The gate moniker? Let it die already.

 

[IconIc215]

I see you can buff the silver model if you want to and i really love to see if someone actually done it?

Here are two using the Mag Polish. There are plenty more examples if you search people doing it with the Apple Watch. Some might even recommend the Cape Cod cloth over any polish as it shouldn't be as messy.

 

[trinamyles]

I guess time will tell with more data and information whether this is a real problem or not, but this person's Space Grey iPhone X's surface is terribly flaked. If it's true, and if the surface is easily flaked, it reminds me of the early Titanium PowerBooks that flaked bad.

I can tell you this. After spending so much money on this phone, people will not be happy if this becomes widespread.

Now, does anyone want to partner on an iPhone X refinishing business?

Read more with photos:

http://bgr.com/2017/11/15/iphone-x-space-gray-stainless-steel-scratches-photos/

I Asked apple regarding this matter. The stainless steel band of space gray is the same with that of the silver. It is neither PVD nor DLC coated. It is a highly recyclable steel. They were treated differently though to achieve a different color

 

[44267547]

I Asked apple regarding this matter. The stainless steel band of space gray is the same with that of the silver. It is neither PVD nor DLC coated. It is a highly recyclable steel. They were treated differently though to achieve a different color

Source for your claim? The Bolded in your Post is false. The steel for both the iPhone X in silver and space gray is surgical stainless steel, however, a PVD coating is used on the space gray bands.

This is direct from Apples website:

“Surgical‑grade stainless steel.
The stainless steel band that wraps around and reinforces iPhone X is a special Apple-designed alloy that’s both durable and more pure, and it polishes beautifully. For the space gray finish, we use a process called physical vapor deposition to precisely match the color of the stainless steel band to that of the glass.”

 

[Absrnd]

So, to the OP, it seems it is al BS, there are no other users with "flaking" iPhones

Otherwise this forum would be up to a 10.000 complainers, on how Apple dropped the ball and flake gates

stop feeding him.

 

[Steve686]

flake1 | fleɪk | noun1 a small, flat, very thin piece of something, typically one which has broken away or been peeled off from a larger piece:

verb1 come or fall away from a surface in flakes: • lose small fragments from the surface:

I don't know.

There is no video showing how that finish actually came off of the phone. There also isn't any video showing the material that was intentionally scratched off of the phone.

 

[Newtons Apple]

I Asked apple regarding this matter. The stainless steel band of space gray is the same with that of the silver. It is neither PVD nor DLC coated. It is a highly recyclable steel. They were treated differently though to achieve a different color

Where did you get this information?

What do you mean "treated"?

 

[Seth Matthews]

I Asked apple regarding this matter. The stainless steel band of space gray is the same with that of the silver. It is neither PVD nor DLC coated. It is a highly recyclable steel. They were treated differently though to achieve a different color

False. Apple's site directly contradicts this.

 

[newellj]

I really wouldn't have posted that....at all. The author of that article is doing the same thing - using pictures off of the internet.

The first picture appears to be from inside the Apple store - notice the tether on the back of the phone and the grain of the table behind? Demo units get beaten all to hell.

Second picture - it could be the PVD coating is pealing (could also be photoshop). But, given the millions of these that are being produced, I'm not surprised that there's defects. Going to happen.

The third picture is a silver phone showing the scratches on a regular stainless steel edge. We've seen this with the Apple Watch. Nothing new here folks. Buff out the scratches and carry on.

Non-story.

I agree, but I'm curious. I think I'm going to get to an Apple store this weekend and look at the display models in person (rather than relying on things posted on the internet).
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I Asked apple regarding this matter. The stainless steel band of space gray is the same with that of the silver. It is neither PVD nor DLC coated. It is a highly recyclable steel. They were treated differently though to achieve a different color

This is just plain false. If that's what you were told, the person who told you that was just plain wrong.
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Source for your claim? The Bolded in your Post is false. The steel for both the iPhone X in silver and space gray is surgical stainless steel, however, a PVD coating is used on the space gray bands.

This is direct from Apples website:

“Surgical‑grade stainless steel.
The stainless steel band that wraps around and reinforces iPhone X is a special Apple-designed alloy that’s both durable and more pure, and it polishes beautifully. For the space gray finish, we use a process called physical vapor deposition to precisely match the color of the stainless steel band to that of the glass.”

Thank you for tracking down and posting that quote to correct this false information.
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hahahaha SILVER for the winnnnnn

jk

But there's some truth there. The closest comparison would be wristwatches with PVD finishes. I don't think I've ever seen one flaking (though I never looked), but the finish will eventually wear off in places where there's continual contact or where there's a decent impact. This topic gets a fair amount of discussion on watch hobby forums.
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It's why I preferred silver X again. Silver also looks nice from a distance while the space gray could fool for any other Android phone if the displays were off. I could care less looking at the rear side of phones. Only with girls.

As a very personal observation, the bright SS finish is also a nice stylistic reference back to the original iPhone and reminds me of the first couple of iPod Touches I had.

 

[fischersd]

Yes, it did flake off. If you actually read this thread, you would see that at no time have I ever made a statement as to what the root cause of the finish flaking off is. Because I don't know, and neither do you. Because we don't have the evidence.

Sorry, but to say that it "flaked off' is to suggest that there was weakness in the bond between the PVD coating and the steel, such that segments of the coating lifted away from the steel.

We've seen no evidence of this. We have seen pictures that look like they've used a bench grinder or a dremel with a grinding brush to remove the coating from two locations on the pictured iPhone X SG.

It's been scraped away. It hasn't "flaked off".

 

[trinamyles]

Where did you get this information?

What do you mean "treated"?

Got the information from apple itself. I got the chance to chat from one of their agents. So she explained it all to me.
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False. Apple's site directly contradicts this.

Explain this to me then

 

[newellj]

Got the information from apple itself. I got the chance to chat from one of their agents. So she explained it all to me.
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Explain this to me then

Explain what? There is nothing about "highly recyclable stainless steel" that bears on the other Apple statements that describe PVD coating.

 

[tromboneaholic]

Got the information from apple itself. I got the chance to chat from one of their agents. So she explained it all to me.
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Explain this to me then

Stainless steel watches are often PVD or DLC coated “to improve hardness, wear resistance and oxidation resistance”*

It’s been a thing for a very long time.

*https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_vapor_deposition

 

[booksbooks]

Sorry, but to say that it "flaked off' is to suggest that there was weakness in the bond between the PVD coating and the steel, such that segments of the coating lifted away from the steel.

We've seen no evidence of this. We have seen pictures that look like they've used a bench grinder or a dremel with a grinding brush to remove the coating from two locations on the pictured iPhone X SG.

It's been scraped away. It hasn't "flaked off".

Sorry, but you need to go back and read this thread, because you clearly haven't.

 

[tromboneaholic]

Sorry, but you need to go back and read this thread, because you clearly haven't.

They clearly understood the issue better than OP.

 

[mcdj]

holy god the level of misinformation, dyslexic interpretation and good old fashioned malarkey is high up in here.

 

[Aydy]

So, to the OP, it seems it is al BS, there are no other users with "flaking" iPhones

Otherwise this forum would be up to a 10.000 complainers, on how Apple dropped the ball and flake gates

stop feeding him.

And 20.000 defenders to make sure the complainers know their place and back the hell off. Apple being the Holy Grail and all..

 

[44267547]

Got the information from apple itself. I got the chance to chat from one of their agents. So she explained it all to me.
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Explain this to me then

Nobody is contesting about the stainless steel being highly recycle, we already know that. I asked you how were you able to know that the Space Gray is not PVD coated, which I indicated direct from Apple's website that the Space gray bands were PVD coated. So you were either misinformed by the representative you spoke with or you have no source at all. I'm guessing you don't have a source at all.

 

[trinamyles]

Nobody is contesting about the stainless steel being highly recycle, we already know that. I asked you how were you able to know that the Space Gray is not PVD coated, which I indicated direct from Apple's website that the Space gray bands were PVD coated. So you were either misinformed by the representative you spoke with or you have no source at all. I'm guessing you don't have a source at all.

Nobody is contesting about the stainless steel being highly recycle, we already know that. I asked you how were you able to know that the Space Gray is not PVD coated, which I indicated direct from Apple's website that the Space gray bands were PVD coated. So you were either misinformed by the representative you spoke with or you have no source at all. I'm guessing you don't have a source at all.

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Nobody is contesting about the stainless steel being highly recycle, we already know that. I asked you how were you able to know that the Space Gray is not PVD coated, which I indicated direct from Apple's website that the Space gray bands were PVD coated. So you were either misinformed by the representative you spoke with or you have no source at all. I'm guessing you don't have a source at all.

Hahahaha. Why would I makes things up? Lol. Here. Read it all. Suit yourself
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Nobody is contesting about the stainless steel being highly recycle, we already know that. I asked you how were you able to know that the Space Gray is not PVD coated, which I indicated direct from Apple's website that the Space gray bands were PVD coated. So you were either misinformed by the representative you spoke with or you have no source at all. I'm guessing you don't have a source at all.

Here. READ IT ALL. I never spread hearsays, but FACTS

 

[44267547]

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Hahahaha. Why would I makes things up? Lol. Here. Read it all. Suit yourself
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Here. READ IT ALL. I never spread hearsays, but FACTS

That representative is clearly not knowledgeable based on what Apple is directly stating of their own website, which you were misinformed. And I quoted directly from Apple's website, the Space gray stainless steel X bands are PVD coated. Fact.

The regular stainless steel bands is surgical stainless only with no PVD coating.

 

[trinamyles]

That representative is clearly not knowledgeable based on what Apple is directly stating of their own website, which you were misinformed. And I quoted directly from Apple's website, the Space gray stainless steel X bands are PVD coated. Fact.

The regular stainless steel bands is surgical stainless only with no PVD coating.

Can you at least give me the link for that “quoted” statement?

 

[Freezer001]

Holy crap man. Right here is a screen shot from Apple.com:

 

[44267547]

Can you at least give me the link for that “quoted” statement?

Again, you were misinformed and incorrect. The iPhone X Space Gray has PVD Coated bands. Scroll down on page to view description.

https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/#design


Surgical‑grade stainless steel.
The stainless steel band that wraps around and reinforces iPhone X is a special Apple-designed alloy that’s both durable and more pure, and it polishes beautifully. For the space gray finish, we use a process called physical vapor deposition to precisely match the color of the stainless steel band to that of the glass.