is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[Fernandez21]

That was just an example (don't forget what sort of resolution and features that battery is powering in the s7 edge). But yes, two solid day battery life would be sweet!

Yeah, and you know with as optimized as ios and the a9 chip are, if the 6S Plus had a 3,600mah battery most people would be able to get 2 full day battery. This is one of the things the apologist don't understand, no body is saying the iPhone sucks, quite the contrary the iPhone is a great a phone and the 6S plus is my battery king thus far, but if they actually put some of this higher end hardware they could be even better. No body saying the 6S plus battery sucks, but imagine what it would be if it had the size battery as the Edge.

 

[jamezr]

Yeah, and you know with as optimized as ios and the a9 chip are, if the 6S Plus had a 3,600mah battery most people would be able to get 2 full day battery. This is one of the things the apologist don't understand, no body is saying the iPhone sucks, quite the contrary the iPhone is a great a phone and the 6S plus is my battery king thus far, but if they actually put some of this higher end hardware they could be even better. No body saying the 6S plus battery sucks, but imagine what it would be if it had the size battery as the Edge.

Exactly..... The 6s+ is an awesome phone! I wish it had a 2k display and SD card and well other options. But that is not to say I think it is a bad phone. Just the opposite. Then if it had a bigger battery and optimizations for the extra hardware it truly could get 2 day battery life.

 

[epicrayban]

Yeah, and you know with as optimized as ios and the a9 chip are, if the 6S Plus had a 3,600mah battery most people would be able to get 2 full day battery. This is one of the things the apologist don't understand, no body is saying the iPhone sucks, quite the contrary the iPhone is a great a phone and the 6S plus is my battery king thus far, but if they actually put some of this higher end hardware they could be even better. No body saying the 6S plus battery sucks, but imagine what it would be if it had the size battery as the Edge.

Yup. Same applies for iOS.

Imagine if it opened up a little. Or had a more consistent experience. Imagine if it treated its users like adults.
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http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/6/11379640/apple-huawei-xiaomi-design-competition

Apple's copycats are turning into true iPhone competitors

I really feel this article shouldn't be missed.

Like I said, I'm not the only one saying the things I've been saying.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Yeah, and you know with as optimized as ios and the a9 chip are, if the 6S Plus had a 3,600mah battery most people would be able to get 2 full day battery. This is one of the things the apologist don't understand, no body is saying the iPhone sucks, quite the contrary the iPhone is a great a phone and the 6S plus is my battery king thus far, but if they actually put some of this higher end hardware they could be even better. No body saying the 6S plus battery sucks, but imagine what it would be if it had the size battery as the Edge.

I agree, if would be a huge plus if Apple started to add batteries inline with their competitors. The iPhone's stand-by life alone would be unmatched.

There is no legit reason for Apple not to.

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[macrem]

About 'how may would switch', for me that's a NO. Mind you I'm deep into the Apple ecosystem app-wise, etc. so there is that. Then there's the tight, excellent integration between iDevices and Macs, which is awesome. Then there is my overall preference (even though I like Android) for iOS. On top of that, 6s performs better and more efficiently. Android devices seem to be in a spec war that defies logic IMO. What is the point of pushing more pixels than the human eye can recognize on a mobile device taxing performance and battery just to have a higher spec sheet.

 

[Cnasty]

About 'how may would switch', for me that's a NO. Mind you I'm deep into the Apple ecosystem app-wise, etc. so there is that. Then there's the tight, excellent integration between iDevices and Macs, which is awesome. Then there is my overall preference (even though I like Android) for iOS. On top of that, 6s performs better and more efficiently. Android devices seem to be in a spec war that defies logic IMO. What is the point of pushing more pixels than the human eye can recognize on a mobile device taxing performance and battery just to have a higher spec sheet.

Well said. The integration of the Apple ecosystem is my main selling point now a days. Between my Mac, iPad, appletv, my Apple Watch. It all integrates so well and seamlessly.

I really enjoy android as well. I think Android devices are king of the hardware. They make such amazing technological choices, beautiful screens and great design. I only enjoy the stock android experience though as LG, Samsung, and others are such terrible experiences for me that I can't overcome them with hardware alone.

Apple's hardware has become stale. My 6s+is such a boring device but I love the software and ecosystem.

 

[Radon87000]

Well, nothing except the FBI director himself.

And to be clear, I'm not taking what any party in this incident says at face value. I also don't consider any current smartphone to be completely secure.

Did you read the link?

I just read the article and it doesn't really change much.The FBI said the tool they purchased doesn't work on the newer iPhones.How does this prove that Cellebrite doesn't have another tool specifically for the newer iPhones?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I agree, if would be a huge plus if Apple started to add batteries inline with their competitors. The iPhone's stand-by life alone would be unmatched.

There is no legit reason for Apple not to.

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I think Apple need to bring a bigger battery, but it doesn't necessarily have to match some of the devices in that picture. If it did that would be excellent but iOS is generally less power hungry so as long as the life is matched, I think many would appreciate that.

 

[I7guy]

I just read the article and it doesn't really change much.The FBI said the tool they purchased doesn't work on the newer iPhones.How does this prove that Cellebrite doesn't have another tool specifically for the newer iPhones?

Because celebrites website says so?

 

[jamezr]

Because celebrites website says so?

maybe because it doesn't say so?

 

[epicrayban]

Even the huawei p9 hides the antennae bands better than the iPhone 6/6S and iPhone 7 renderings.

Surely Apple is choosing not to hide them. Doesn't that go against Apple's design philosophy of seamless lined and smooth aesthetics?

 

[Truefan31]

Even the huawei p9 hides the antennae bands better than the iPhone 6/6S and iPhone 7 renderings.

Surely Apple is choosing not to hide them. Doesn't that go against Apple's design philosophy of seamless lined and smooth aesthetics?

Guess we'll see in September?

 

[Radon87000]

Because celebrites website says so?

Where does Cellebrite claim they cannot hack iPhone 6s?

 

[Radon87000]

Guess we'll see in September?

Haven't the renderings already confirmed the top and bottom antenna bands will remain the same?Just the middle ones will be removed

 

[Qbnkelt]

You're fairer than most.

The only point I'd add is that hardware matters. To simply concede that Samsung has better hardware and leave it at that as if it has no bearing to software is, I think, a mistake. It's reached a point where the superior hardware married to TouchWiz/Marshmallow is providing a better overall experience. More usefulness. More function. More consistency. More customization. Less worry. No one is saying iPhone hardware is "garbage." Just behind.

Just to give one example where hardware + software matter: The S7 Edge carries a massive 3600 mah battery. You marry that with the optimization that's been made between TW/MM, couple with hardware and software features like wireless/quick charging and Doze/Power & Ultra-power saving modes, and you suddenly are using a smartphone where you almost never have to worry about battery life. Someone asked the other day what sort of SOT people are getting with the S7E, and I honestly didn't know. I haven't checked in a while. Why not? Well, because I simply don't think or worry about battery life anymore. This is a wonderful luxury.

And I won't rise to the defense of Android software again. I know you know my posts. I'd argue that except for a few areas, Apple's software is behind too. iOS needs a lot more work than people know or maybe even want to admit. I've outlined my thoughts a number of times so I won't go too crazy here repeating them. In short, there are just too many inconsistencies and overbearing security measures; and not enough freedom to customize both aesthetics and personal use functions. iOS does many things right, but so does Android. Millions are fine with iOS at its current state, but that can be said of Android as well (doesn't mean Android doesn't have problems, right?).

So, to me, not only should Apple start upping their hardware game, they need to up their software game, too.

And I'm not the only one saying this. Even tech journalists who have been very Apple-friendly have said that Apple needs to bring their A-game this Fall with the iPhone 7.

I strongly agree.

Throwing hardware at a poorly optimised OS is mistake.
My three week old SGS 7 edge froze hard yesterday and had to be rebooted. CNN app crashes every time I use it, I've sent several reports.

EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.
And there is stutter when scrolling through pages. Especially heavy Web pages.
I've never had my "inferior" specced iPhone 6s Plus freeze, it's only rebooted as part of an upgrade.
As far as battery life, it gets a day in WiFi but less out and about. My iPhone 6s Plus consistently gets me a full day. I charge overnight out of habit.
As far as security measures, I want them. Yes, I'd love to have themes, but for me, it's lower on the things I value than, say, the trouble free experience I get with my iPhones year over year.
***Edited to remove bizarre typo.....

 

[Qbnkelt]

Imagine if it opened up a little. Or had a more consistent experience. Imagine if it treated its users like adults. .

At no point have I felt that Apple does not treat me like an adult.

Here. This is the kind of post that I find contentious. Why was that necessary?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Throwing hardware at a poorly optomised is Valdivia mistake.
My three week old SGS 7 edge froze hard yesterday and had to be rebooted. CNN app crashes every time I use it, I've sent several reports.

EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.
And there is stutter when scrolling through pages. Especially heavy Web pages.
I've never had my "inferior" specced iPhone 6s Plus freeze, it's only rebooted as part of an upgrade.
As far as battery life, it gets a day in WiFi but less out and about. My iPhone 6s Plus consistently gets me a full day. I charge overnight out of habit.
As far as security measures, I want them. Yes, I'd love to have themes, but for me, it's lower on the things I value than, say, the trouble free experience I get with my iPhones year over year.

Well it's a shame you're having a bad experience on the S7 edge. You should stick with the iPhone since it's near flawless for you.

But your issues definitely don't represent the majority of S7 edge users, nor the majority of tons of reviews.

 

[nj1266]

One good thing Google does is push monthly security updates. I got an update yesterday that brings my patch level up to April. It also added enhancements to my S7 edge. Apple needs to do a better job of timely updates and not just when something breaks like 9.3.1. They HAD to rush 9.3.1 to fix the Safari link issue affecting millions.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/amitchowdhry/2016/03/31/apple-ios-9-3-1-released/#53327c5411a6

This was caused by the booking.com app. It was a badly coded app that broke the universal link system that apple relied on. If you did not install the app, then you had no problem.

 

[Qbnkelt]

Well it's a shame you're having a bad experience on the S7 edge. You should stick with the iPhone since it's near flawless for you.

But your issues definitely don't represent the majority of S7 edge users, nor the majority of tons of reviews.

I always buy an Android phone. My iPhone is my daily driver but I've had Android devices since 2010.
Most of the issues others are experiencing with the SGS7 have not impacted me. For example the camera issue. No problem.

 

[nj1266]

there you go...again. I have an iPhone because i want one. There....you have it. Or should I use all caps or maybe bold it all for you. Do you assume that adds weight to your statements? Are you mad bruh? Stomping your feet? Got a frown on your face? Maybe you can highlight it or here's an idea...make it all red next time. Yeah that really shows people you mean business and your statements hold more weight than plain or black and white text....

Read my statements again. Try to comprehend....
All security breaches and exploits get socialized....it is common knowledge. The exploits and processes used by the FBI was from an third party external company. If you think this stuff doesn't leak, get bought and get socialized....you need to pull your head out of the sand.

The FBI admitted that their hacking method only applies to the 5c and I presume older devices. They cannot hack into the 5s and above.

 

[nj1266]

And yet they hacked it and are now saying that all devices currently being withheld by the cops can easily be unlocked now.So much for being the most secure device ever.
It didn't take them weeks btw.They just waited to see if Apple took the easy way out.When Apple started playing hardball,The FBI still got the last laugh.
As far as Android goes,even they are all fully encrypted.What makes you think they could have been easily unlocked?

One more time, the FBI admitted that they only hacked the 5c. They cannot hack the 5s and higher iPhones. FBI lost in this one.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

Throwing hardware at a poorly optimised OS is mistake.
My three week old SGS 7 edge froze hard yesterday and had to be rebooted. CNN app crashes every time I use it, I've sent several reports.

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i would blame CNN, not the phone for the CNN app problems. They have the worst coders working for them. I had problems with the iOS version for a year and a half before they settled into some semblance of stability.
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I think this is what Apple has been missing since the death of Steve Jobs. After seeing apple on the verge of bankruptcy, he became paranoid of not allowing that to happen again. That's why he didn't pay dividends and instead bank the profits for a rainy day, plus gave a sense of urgency in moving products forward. The sense, style, and philosophy of his survived, but that sense of urgency seems to be gone.

I agree. I think this is due to them being very distracted right now with other things. First they are building a huge new campus. Then they are working on a new design for their stores. They are dinking around with the iPad to try and boost lagging sales. They are redoing their cloud services. And as if that wasn't enough, for some reason they think they should now be in the auto making business which I truly don't understand. Making a car is so much different from a phone or computer. Different upgrade cycle too. Totally out of their wheelhouse.

All that stuff has to be a distraction.

 

[Qbnkelt]

i would blame CNN, not the phone for the CNN app problems. They have the worst coders working for them. I had problems with the iOS version for a year and a half before they settled into some semblance of stability.
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I agree. I think this is due to them being very distracted right now with other things. First they are building a huge new campus. Then they are working on a new design for their stores. They are dinking around with the iPad to try and boost lagging sales. They are redoing their cloud services. And as if that wasn't enough, for some reason they think they should now be in the auto making business which I truly don't understand. Making a car is so much different from a phone or computer. Different upgrade cycle too. Totally out of their wheelhouse.

All that stuff has to be a distraction.

Regardless of where the blame lies, it affects the usability of the device and therefore the user experience. Which speaks to my point that throwing hardware at a phone does not ensure usability nor a stellar user experience.
And honestly, I'm done with the edges. I need a case that covers them.

 

[Truefan31]

Haven't the renderings already confirmed the top and bottom antenna bands will remain the same?Just the middle ones will be removed

Maybe. If it ends up being the case then so be it. But nobody knows right now.

 

[I7guy]

Where does Cellebrite claim they cannot hack iPhone 6s?

Where do they say they can?