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is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?
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You are mixing Apple devices into one lump device. The devices that are easily hack able are the 5c and before. Why? Because they do not have a secure enclave which is hardware and not software. The 5s and higher gave that secure enclave. These are different devices. The hack that works on the 5c and before will not work on the 5s and newer devices. Furthermore, the hack is patch able by Apple as per the admission by Comey in his speech at Kenyon university. Moreover, the FBI will not even use this hack in criminal cases because once they do, then they have to divulge how it is used.
You are making two errors. First, you are lumping all Apple devices together. That is not the case. What works on the 5C will not work on 5s and newer because the hardware is different. So one exploit DOES NOT lead to another. Second, the exploit is not going to be used and divulged. So where are the hackers going to get it from? The only way it will be divulged is if someone in the FBI leaks it. Finally, this hack can easily be closed once Apple updates the iOS.
you are making two errors.
First your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired.
Second you make wide assumptions instead of reading what is in front of you and taking it for what it is.
Did you read what I provided to you? Did you understand it? didn't think so.......
An exploit or vulnerability in any software eventually leads to other exploits and vulnerabilities. Why do you think all companies issue so many patches? Because their are so many vulnerabilities they can't keep up. Because one exploit reveals a vulnerability in the code that leads to another vulnerability and more exploits. It is an endless cycle.
The whole FBI suit was just to start a legal precedent nothing more.
education is a really great thing. This is an interesting read......
https://theintercept.com/2015/03/10/ispy-cia-campaign-steal-apples-secrets/
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Why would they want to advertise a hacking tool for the latest OS?For the record,their website says they can only unlock till iOS 8.4.1 and yet on Twitter they tweeted that they can hack iOS 9.Some things are not supposed to be freely advertised
Lucky you then. I have Family Sharing set up for my young kids so I have to approve any app purchases they make. For quite a while, anytime they made a request, even though I had TouchID set up for authentication to approve App Store purchases, without fail I would have to manually enter my Apple ID password to app these requests on my iPhone. Same request comes through on my iPad--I'm prompted to use TouchID. I did everything possible to try to remedy it...logged out of iCloud, reboot device, disable then set up TouchID again...even fully restored the phone, all to no avail. I replicated the problem at an Apple Store...they had no idea. Same with telephone support. So I just had to deal with it.
Some time in the past month, without any changes made on my part, it started prompting me to use TouchID to approve. No idea why because as I said, nothing had changed (and it wasn't after one of the software updates...double checked that when it happened).
Further inconsistency---any of my kids want to get an app, they are prompted to put in their Apple ID password (another ludicrous requirement considering I have to approve the purchase myself afterwards regardless and I don't want my 7 year old son to have to create/remember a login ID password). For 2 of my kids, one request to input their password and it's done. For my youngest (the one that I have to input his password for)...3 requests, EVERY TIME (2 before asking permission and once more after I've approved it on my end). Again, jumped through endless hoops trying to resolve this with no results...still living with this ridiculous situation to this day.
Further example of the nonsense epicrayban mentioned...in what appears to be random incidents, some days when I go to unlock any of my 3 iDevices that have TouchID, I'm prompted that I have to use my passcode. And no, this is not after a reboot (which I also think is nonsense) but just randomly during typical use...been like this for months. And everyone once in a while, I'll just get a random pop up prompt asking me to verify my Apple ID password...again, for no apparent reason.
It's these inconsistencies that are maddening. And a simple Google or forum search will show you I'm far from the only one experiencing they inconsistent behaviors.
I guess the point is, maybe they wouldn't have to limit iOS' capabilities if the battery was larger.
Today, the S7 Edge gets insanely good battery life while still providing all that TouchWiz and Marshmallow have to offer, and while still pushing the higher res screen (virtual reality!) on the hardware side.
Again, hardware can matter. Future-proofing can matter. Just because Apple doesn't want to play the same hardware game others are, we can't pretend like hardware and future-proofing specs don't count for anything but a spec checklist.
Remember the 64-bit chip Apple introduced? What discernable real world difference did that make in people's lives when it first came out? None that I knew of. Yet, we praised Apple -- myself included -- for including it for the future.
Specs can matter.
EDIT: Real question to anyone who knows: Does the 64 bit processor do anything even today? For both iOS/Android?
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Apple uses CardAV (open standard) in contacts.
Apple uses standard IMAP in Mail.
Apple uses CalAV (open standard) in calendars and remainders.
Half of the Apple services you cannot sync with android is due to the apparent lack of concern for Android to support open standards.
well based on their list of android devices i sure hope this list is out of date because there is some pretty old stuff on there
Not really, and you can basically get fired for saying as much:
http://www.cnet.com/news/after-apple-64-bit-a7-criticism-qualcomm-exec-reassigned/
But really with the ARMv8 architecture which is 64-bit capable, there are a huge mass of improvements. Power efficiency, throughput, etc, across 32-bit and 64-bit applications.
A couple of things.
One, you're naive if you think anything can't be hacked. Everything can be hacked, even the most secured systems in the world can be hacked with enough resources put behind it. The iPhone may be more secure if a random thief steals your phone, but if some one like the FBI or other government agencies want into your phone, doesn't matter what you use, they'll find a way in.
Second, not saying apple NEEDS to do anything, they're very successful in what they do. But imagine if you will a world where the iPhone 6S/6S Plus are the same iPhones you know and love with awesome apple services and integration, clean, fast, reliable performing ui, world leading apps, a9 chip, ultra fast ssd, and an all metal design. But they also have a smaller footprint thanks to smaller bezels and curved edges, is water proof, has a better low light camera, Apple Pay is available everywhere, even on old credit card terminals, has multi window, has a more customizable home screen, has a file system, has fast charging, and has a 3,600mah battery. Wouldn't those things make using an iPhone a much better expierence? And in this world, the discussion would again be how the iPhone was ahead of the competition instead of how they're all pretty much the same and it's more user preference than anything.
Again, the iPhone is fantastic the way it is, but it could be so much better if Apple had been more aggressive. And this is with current off the shelf technology available to most manufacturers, who knows what future tech apple has in its labs.
One, you're naive if you think anything can't be hacked. Everything can be hacked, even the most secured systems in the world can be hacked with enough resources put behind it. The iPhone may be more secure if a random thief steals your phone, but if some one like the FBI or other government agencies want into your phone, doesn't matter what you use, they'll find a way in.
Second, not saying apple NEEDS to do anything, they're very successful in what they do. But imagine if you will a world where the iPhone 6S/6S Plus are the same iPhones you know and love with awesome apple services and integration, clean, fast, reliable performing ui, world leading apps, a9 chip, ultra fast ssd, and an all metal design. But they also have a smaller footprint thanks to smaller bezels and curved edges, is water proof, has a better low light camera, Apple Pay is available everywhere, even on old credit card terminals, has multi window, has a more customizable home screen, has a file system, has fast charging, and has a 3,600mah battery. Wouldn't those things make using an iPhone a much better expierence? And in this world, the discussion would again be how the iPhone was ahead of the competition instead of how they're all pretty much the same and it's more user preference than anything.
Again, the iPhone is fantastic the way it is, but it could be so much better if Apple had been more aggressive. And this is with current off the shelf technology available to most manufacturers, who knows what future tech apple has in its labs.
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It helps with encryption and security. Not sure what else, but I know it speeds that up.
I have no idea what iOS is preventing me from doing in the context of this discussion so feel out of my depth to agree or disagree with you. If it's blocking features within apps to enable better battery life, I haven't noticed.
its hard for me to talk about samsung and future proofing in the same sentence because you only have support for 2 years. I hope the trend started with the s6 continues and major updates continue to result in an increase in performance, but still two years of support is too short to talk about future proofing with hardware, unless you are gonna run cyanogenmod after support dies, which nobody with a snapdragon s7 will be doing. no doubt with official support the s7 could run android o, p, q, r, s... afaik system requirements for android have not been increasing lately
samsung hardware is excellent, when the discussion includes software and support i start leaning iphone
none of this matters to techheads that buy a new phone every year though, samsung is great for that
the manner of which ios multitasks was a big part of the reason for me moving back to ios. their technique results in more consistent battery life. apps cant really runaway and misbehave. it is give and take, because not everything is possible like it is on android, but the concession is worth it for me.
samsung hardware is excellent, when the discussion includes software and support i start leaning iphone
none of this matters to techheads that buy a new phone every year though, samsung is great for that
the manner of which ios multitasks was a big part of the reason for me moving back to ios. their technique results in more consistent battery life. apps cant really runaway and misbehave. it is give and take, because not everything is possible like it is on android, but the concession is worth it for me.
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I understand your premise but a wish list can be made for anything. The issue is thinking ones' opinion represents fact about either what a company needs to do. Sounds like what you've stated is a mash of iPhone and the s7 edge. That's fine but in reality Apple has its own identity, whether someone likes it or not is subjective.
These discussions here, these companies don't care. We represent a fraction of a fraction of the overall consumer market. We think what we want represents fact when in reality these companies are all just trying to make money.
I don't think anyone is saying specs don't matter. But the degree of how much it matters is again subjective. You seemingly value it more than some others which is fine. But if you already feel Apple doesn't play that game then you'll probably be feeling the same way for a while.
Future-proofing? At the rate technology advances it's hard to say any tech is future proof. I can say that Apple has provided great support for me over the years though.
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The iPhone and iOS is slowly becoming the old man at the night club. Plenty don't desire to move away, cause they don't have any compelling reason. But once something like a smartphone that folds out into a tablet hits the market, it's only a matter of time when Apple's ecosystem is second priority to a new era of mobile tech.
Haha ^ I think the bigger development will be when google can push OS updates to oem/carrier phones directly, similar to how x86/64 windows updates are done. Android devices will have much longevity if that ever happens (like windows pcs do), at least with respect to software
if that happens ill dump ios for good
if that happens ill dump ios for good
That may happen, or it may not. Again your opinion isn't right or wrong but it's yours. It doesn't represent everyone.
Sounds like you'd be happier right now not using an iPhone. But again what you feel doesn't represent the whole.
^^^^^ And this is why it's worth trying the competition.
This is why I say it's a very different thing to read about or watch videos of the competition versus owning it and actually using it as your daily driver. The things the S7E can do that the iPhone cannot lead to real world gains. And from there, one can begin to observe where Apple's shortcomings lie.
This is also why I say we should not take what i7guy or others like him say seriously. If they don't want to use non-Apple products, that's their choice and no one can tell them otherwise. But then to have so many of them come here into the Alternatives section to argue points they have no experience in? That's the very definition of ignorance.
And lastly, it's why I said what I said in this post, especially the part in bold:
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lol...what does a statement like that add to the discussion. Sounds like you are happy using an iPhone and not an Android phone. So then that begs the question...why are in this thread. Do you see us in the iPhone thread posting the same things you do here?
Not trying to be rude about this ..... but you don't have to keep pointing out what's opinion or preference, unless they state something as fact.
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As long as it's not as frequent as Windows. Windows is an update monster.
I said not using an iPhone. To him he expressed pain points about iPhone to the point where he feels Apple needs to step it up. The things he's yearning for will probably not come immediately, if at all. So using something else, whether it's android or whatever, might suit him better.
You keep asking the same question that I've specifically answered multiple times. I'm curious about all tech. I'm in various threads. Doesn't mean I speak for the companies in general. I'm not a hater of anything, contrary to what you accuse me of. But if you're expressing in multiple threads a dislike for something then maybe you or anyone should not keep using it.
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