is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[MRU]

There are benefits to having some bezels. Holding the iPhone 6S+ in landscape is far more comfortable than the S7e.

The fact that we have capacitive buttons in the S7e along with a curved screen means at times you will inevitably and inadvertently press one of the capacitive buttons or tap off the screen edges, which when watching a video can be a bit of a pita. I've done it many times accidentally, i.e. tapped multitasking button whilst trying to adjust grip or paused or scrubbed/skipped some video by accidental presses on the edges.

Whereas the iPhone is much easier to hold and you are far less likely to get accidental presses taking you out of the app.

So whilst it undoubtably can be argued that there are cosmetic disadvantages to bezels, there are some genuine practicality advantages to them also which many fail to acknowledge.

It's all Swings and roundabouts and I don't think either has an overall advantage or disadvantage.

 

[Fernandez21]

There are benefits to having some bezels. Holding the iPhone 6S+ in landscape is far more comfortable than the S7e.

The fact that we have capacitive buttons in the S7e along with a curved screen means at times you will inevitably and inadvertently press one of the capacitive buttons or tap off the screen edges, which when watching a video can be a bit of a pita. I've done it many times accidentally, i.e. tapped multitasking button whilst trying to adjust grip or paused or scrubbed/skipped some video by accidental presses on the edges.

Whereas the iPhone is much easier to hold and you are far less likely to get accidental presses taking you out of the app.

So whilst it undoubtably can be argued that there are cosmetic disadvantages to bezels, there are some genuine practicality advantages to them also which many fail to acknowledge.

It's all Swings and roundabouts and I don't think either has an overall advantage or disadvantage.

Yup. Even after the update, im still still having that issue, though it has been MUCH improved. I'm hoping Samsung uses some form of 3D Touch for the capacitive buttons in the future, will make things much easier. And of course they keep working on the algorithm to lessen the inverting touches.

It's worth it, imo, to have the smaller footprint with the same size screen. I am more confident in Apple implementing a better algorithm than Samsung.

 

[navaira]

I would be much more tempted to get the S7 if there was a version without the SAMSUNG logo or, as my Z5 Compact, black on black logo. Or a case that covers the logo. It's the 4GB of RAM that makes me very tempted. Z5C has 2GB and closes apps in the background a bit too often for comfort.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I would be much more tempted to get the S7 if there was a version without the SAMSUNG logo or, as my Z5 Compact, black on black logo. Or a case that covers the logo. It's the 4GB of RAM that makes me very tempted. Z5C has 2GB and closes apps in the background a bit too often for comfort.

I've said this a few times myself. I don't know why they don't drop the logo off the front of their phones? Surely like the iPhone it's recognisable from the front? It would add to its sleek design IMO.

 

[navaira]

Z5 Compact:

This picture actually makes the logo MORE visible than it actually is.

 

[epicrayban]

I'm not apologizing for Apple. Apple products aren't for everyone, just like any other product. Feel free to criticize whatever, or wish for whatever. But in reality these companies don't care about people in these forums. So the wishlist people constantly yearn for are just that, imagined wishes.

Your opinion is fine, as is mine, the issue is when people think opinions speak for everyone.

I read that you posted several links to illustrate the supposed security leaks on iOS yet your a security professional. But you state you continually use your iPhone 6s Plus. Then you say any device can be compromised. Sure I agree with that. But I'd think as a security professional if you think iOS is less secure, to the point of posting links about it, then you'd be less inclined to own and keep data on a iOS device. Unless you don't value your security that high. If that's the case so be it. But I asked you because I was curious as to your logic still using an iPhone. Instead of a detailed answer I get called a hater and/or apologist. Fine, it's your business, but to me it's not any clearer the logic behind it.

Yes we're just forum posters but all we have are conversations to work with. And the conversations begin here and hopefully become a greater part of the growing conversation in both the real world and tech journalism.

Again, I am not the only one calling for apple to step up their game. Have you seen any of the links I've been posting?

And it worked with Samsung. The constant criticism of their design and cheap build materials lead to them redesigning the s6 drastically. And again after that, all the reviews pointing out the flaws of the s6 brought about the s7.

Apple should be paying attention too.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

There are benefits to having some bezels. Holding the iPhone 6S+ in landscape is far more comfortable than the S7e.

Something I never really thought about.

For me, it's only when it comes to holding it two handed. Like for gaming. A simple backcase does help. But yes, the bezels on the iPhone are much better with two handed landscape.

But for watching videos, I can hold the S7 edge in landscape with one hand forever cause the size is more compact. I usually watch videos in landscape holding it with my left hand on the front camera bezel side. Wider phones are less comfortable and easier to drop holding one handed landscape.

 

[epicrayban]

Sure, if someone has several criticisms of a product, complains about it on forums, I'd suggest not using it. Apple or not.

I don't think I've said I hated android or Samsung. Again my main criticism of Samsung is their powerful influence in Korea.

Lol you don't have to follow my suggestion. Again you're taking things way too personal.

You're just wasting a lot of people's time then.

There are people here very interested in discussing apple and where they can improve. If you don't want to partake in that conversation, you don't have to. Thanks, I guess, for your suggestions to simply use some other device. Like we haven't thought of that or are already doing that. It's because we ARE using the competition that we can say, Apple needs to step up their game. If you were willing to try it, maybe you'd realize that too.

But hey, your decision is your decision. Like I said, you and i7guy and all the others who come here to essentially say, "the iPhone works perfectly for me" or "I don't care about the competition; don't need all that they're offering" or "look at the sales and profits and millions of users"... You're essentially wasting our time.

I hope you don't take that offensively. I just mean that literally. It's a conversation killer to simply say, I'm fine or I don't care. Thanks for this input but it really does nothing (and arguably actually does harm to the conversation) for anyone here interested in the topic.

 

[jamezr]

After seeing S7 review, I was tempted to try and bought S7 Flat. This time, I gave iPhone 6S to my mother and wanted to use S7 as my only and main device. After using S7 for a week, I sold it and went back to iPhone.

I really like S7 screen and camera. The performance was also very smooth, not as smooth as iPhone 6S, but its waaay better than any previous Samsung device I have ever used. Battery life is also good, last me for a full day every day.

But my biggest problem is Apps and Integration with my other Apple device.

There is no browser on Android that is as good as Safari in terms of speed and functionality. Chrome is really bad on OS X, Samsung Internet is fast and smooth but don't have desktop sync, open in background, and many other feature. Firefox is the closest and has all Safari feature, but still not as good as Safari, such as can't click small link without zooming, scrolling lag, etc.

Apps are still better on iOS, at least the app that I regularly use. When following live thread on Tapatalk Android, refreshing the thread will bring you to top, which is frustrating. Tapatalk on iOS will keep position while refreshing a thread. Fantasy Premier League app on Android is pure garbage compare to iOS version, like its coded by a 5 years old. Many local apps (Indonesia) such as banking, e-commerce, and community are better on iOS than Android.

Also, there seems to be no guideline in submitting apps to Play Store. Apps interface are very random and can have different font, styling, text boxes, etc.

Fingerprint scanner on S7 is iPhone 5S quality. My success rate is only 80% even though I have registered same finger twice. I also can't ever unlocked my phone using fingerprint scanner if its lying on table. On 6S, the success rate is 98% and works even if its on the table.

So, for me, iPhone 6S is still superior than S7. But I can see why other people prefer S7. I don't believe one device is objectively better than the other. Its a matter of preference.

Thats is fair! You gave a it a great shot but in the end it wasn't for you. I respect people who try something out first without the need to bash or put something down. Then you can't go wrong with an iphone. It is a great phone.

 

[Truefan31]

You're just wasting a lot of people's time then.

There are people here very interested in discussing apple and where they can improve. If you don't want to partake in that conversation, you don't have to. Thanks, I guess, for your suggestions to simply use some other device. Like we haven't thought of that or are already doing that. It's because we ARE using the competition that we can say, Apple needs to step up their game. If you were willing to try it, maybe you'd realize that too.

But hey, your decision is your decision. Like I said, you and i7guy and all the others who come here to essentially say, "the iPhone works perfectly for me" or "I don't care about the competition; don't need all that they're offering" or "look at the sales and profits and millions of users"... You're essentially wasting our time.

I hope you don't take that offensively. I just mean that literally. It's a conversation killer to simply say, I'm fine or I don't care. Thanks for this input but it really does nothing (and arguably actually does harm to the conversation) for anyone here interested in the topic.

With respect to your post I don't think I've said I don't care about the competition. Or that the iPhone works perfectly. Again I represent only what I've said. The issue would be if what I thought about any device meant that's really the case for the whole. Discussion I'd believe is always warranted on these forums. Sharing opinions is why we're here. But they're all just that. Opinions. For those including yourself that feel Apple needs to step up there are those who feel the opposite. If I agreed with you I'd still understand that it's just for my case. Because everyone values different things.

 

[MRU]

I've said this a few times myself. I don't know why they don't drop the logo off the front of their phones? Surely like the iPhone it's recognisable from the front? It would add to its sleek design IMO.

I still don't understand the reason they print in big shiny letters the model name on the back of your USA handsets. That to me is more waste than the Samsung logo.

 

[jamezr]

I still don't understand the reason they print in big shiny letters the model name on the back of your USA handsets. That to me is more waste than the Samsung logo.

for me personally i don't mind the back....but remove that logo from the front please!

 

[cdm283813]

I own both the S7 and iPhone 6S and if I had to pick one over the other it would be the S7. But it really depends on what you want in a phone. I still feel that the 6S is faster especially in Web browsing with safari. Chrome on the S7 is behind in that department so I had to download and try multiple browsers for the way I use the phone. But the S7 has more features and I don't get bored. Apple seriously needs to allow different launchers and themes because after awhile the iPhone becomes boring. The theme engine in the S7 is fantastic and use it daily. I will also give the fingerprint reader in the iPhone the nod. It's the fastest and most accurate reader I've used. I know I'm all over the place in this paragraph but I can go back and forth all day over these two.
I ultimately believe that both phones are excellent but for the next 5 months it will be the S7. Then in September I will rock the iPhone 7 Plus model as a home only device/ipad replacement unless Samsung kills it with the Note 6. Then it will be iPhone 7 and Note 6. I stopped picking Android and iOS battles last year. I use both to make fair assessments.
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it's a nice phone but still has touchwiz and horrible updates.

TouchWiz is fine but because of touchwiz updates are horrible.
But my wife complains about another iOS update and when I updated her to iOS 9.3 it caused problems. I honestly believe that the majority of smartphone users could care less about updates. They just want a phone that works. These are the people that never visit tech forums or youtube blogs. I personally love updates but I'm a phone geek. I have both a iPhone 6s, Samsung S7, Nexus 6 and ipad air 2 for crying out loud.

 

[jamezr]

I own both the S7 and iPhone 6S and if I had to pick one over the other it would be the S7. But it really depends on what you want in a phone. I still feel that the 6S is faster especially in Web browsing with safari. Chrome on the S7 is behind in that department so I had to download and try multiple browsers for the way I use the phone. But the S7 has more features and I don't get bored. Apple seriously needs to allow different launchers and themes because after awhile the iPhone becomes boring. The theme engine in the S7 is fantastic and use it daily. I will also give the fingerprint reader in the iPhone the nod. It's the fastest and most accurate reader I've used. I know I'm all over the place in this paragraph but I can go back and forth all day over these two.
I ultimately believe that both phones are excellent but for the next 5 months it will be the S7. Then in September I will rock the iPhone 7 Plus model as a home only device/ipad replacement unless Samsung kills it with the Note 6. Then it will be iPhone 7 and Note 6. I stopped picking Android and iOS battles last year. I use both to make fair assessments.

Nice post...... I have bothe 6s+ and S7 edge. Love them both for different reasons. I agree with you on the fingerprint scanner on the iphone it is faster. I think round FP scanners are faster in general.
I am going to get both get both the Note 6 and IP7+ later this year. Best of both worlds.

 

[epicrayban]

With respect to your post I don't think I've said I don't care about the competition. Or that the iPhone works perfectly. Again I represent only what I've said. The issue would be if what I thought about any device meant that's really the case for the whole. Discussion I'd believe is always warranted on these forums. Sharing opinions is why we're here. But they're all just that. Opinions. For those including yourself that feel Apple needs to step up there are those who feel the opposite. If I agreed with you I'd still understand that it's just for my case. Because everyone values different things.

Again, saying the s7 edge can do more is not an opinion.

Did you get a chance BTW to respond to this question in my earlier post to you?


"Let me also ask you this...

Do you use every single new feature Apple introduces to the iPhone? Literally every single one of them? And all the time? Meaning, every year, there's a new iPhone and new update to iOS with all new features. Do you use every single new feature that's released each year?

Because if not, you must be able to understand my point. Even if there's one tiny new feature that Apple's introduced in the past that you don't use -- a feature that someone else might find useful -- you should understand my point."

 

[Truefan31]

Again, saying the s7 edge can do more is not an opinion.

Did you get a chance BTW to respond to this question in my earlier post to you?


"Let me also ask you this...

Do you use every single new feature Apple introduces to the iPhone? Literally every single one of them? And all the time? Meaning, every year, there's a new iPhone and new update to iOS with all new features. Do you use every single new feature that's released each year?

Because if not, you must be able to understand my point. Even if there's one tiny new feature that Apple's introduced in the past that you don't use -- a feature that someone else might find useful -- you should understand my point."

I understand your point. And no I don't use every feature of every device I've owned. But I understand that others use differs than mine. Just like my opinion differs from anyone else. I don't think I've said I didn't understand you. Just that what you feel isn't what everyone feels.

 

[epicrayban]

I understand your point. And no I don't use every feature of every device I've owned. But I understand that others use differs than mine. Just like my opinion differs from anyone else. I don't think I've said I didn't understand you. Just that what you feel isn't what everyone feels.

Saying that is as moot as me saying, "what you feel about apple being fine isn't what everyone feels."

Are you beginning to see why this is a conversation killer? At a forum where all we have are conversations.

Again, if that's all you have to say here, thanks but we know all this already. You're not adding anything to the conversation, and arguably are derailing it. So now, instead of talking constructively about how and where Apple can grow in the face of rising competition, we're wasting time talking about whether they should bother to or not.

 

[jamezr]

Saying that is as moot as me saying, "what you feel about apple being fine isn't what everyone feels."

Are you beginning to see why this is a conversation killer? At a forum where all we have are conversations.

Again, if that's all you have to say here, thanks but we know all this already. You're not adding anything to the conversation, and arguably are derailing it. So now, instead of talking constructively about how and where Apple can grow in the face of rising competition, we're wasting time talking about whether they should bother to or not.

for the post you replied to this is appropriate....

 

[Truefan31]

Saying that is as moot as me saying, "what you feel about apple being fine isn't what everyone feels."

Are you beginning to see why this is a conversation killer? At a forum where all we have are conversations.

Again, if that's all you have to say here, thanks but we know all this already. You're not adding anything to the conversation, and arguably are derailing it. So now, instead of talking constructively about how and where Apple can grow in the face of rising competition, we're wasting time talking about whether they should bother to or not.

The thread is discussing whether the s7 is a threat to the iPhone. Some agree, while there's those who disagree. That's the conversation being discussed right? Everyone is free to contribute their opinions. But that's what they are.

Do you expect everyone to agree with your feeling about Apple needing to step up?

 

[epicrayban]

The thread is discussing whether the s7 is a threat to the iPhone. Some agree, while there's those who disagree. That's the conversation being discussed right? Everyone is free to contribute their opinions. But that's what they are.

Do you expect everyone to agree with your feeling about Apple needing to step up?

No. And you're free to post what and where you want. No one is saying you shouldn't. But again, thanks for the disagreement. That's really the end of the conversation isn't it? As I say, there are others here who are very interested in how and where Apple can grow against Samsung and others.

 

[Truefan31]

No. And you're free to post what and where you want. No one is saying you shouldn't. But again, thanks for the disagreement. That's really the end of the conversation isn't it? As I say, there are others here who are very interested in how and where Apple can grow against Samsung and others.

Sure. The purpose of a thread like this is to voice opinions. Conflicting ones. If you say Apple needs to step up, then someone says Apple is doing a good job at what it's doing at the pace it's doing it, they're both right in their own minds.

 

[epicrayban]

Sure. The purpose of a thread like this is to voice opinions. Conflicting ones. If you say Apple needs to step up, then someone says Apple is doing a good job at what it's doing at the pace it's doing it, they're both right in their own minds.

I wonder if there were people who thought BlackBerry was doing just fine, too.

 

[gotluck]

I wonder if there were people who thought BlackBerry was doing just fine, too.

That's going too far

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I wonder if there were people who thought BlackBerry was doing just fine, too.

There weren't many I don't think lol

 

[Radon87000]

The thread is discussing whether the s7 is a threat to the iPhone. Some agree, while there's those who disagree. That's the conversation being discussed right? Everyone is free to contribute their opinions. But that's what they are.

Do you expect everyone to agree with your feeling about Apple needing to step up?

Yes.Do you really feel 10GB iPhones with a 720P LCD screen is feasible in 2016 when Samsung has already moved to 32 gigs and 2K OLED displays