is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[epicrayban]

Sounds like you'd be happier right now not using an iPhone. But again what you feel doesn't represent the whole.

You know, similar arguments have been made in the past. Something alluding to how millions of users are still picking iOS and clearly are fine with it. And the response to this argument is the same:

Adding features doesn't mean you must use them. Nor does adding features somehow risk what anyone's used to. It just makes the iPhone better for more people. Remember when the iPhone came in only one screen size? And how the argument was pretty much exactly the same? That so many people must be happy with just a 4" phone as evidenced by the sales and consumer-satisfaction rating. Remember?

Let me also ask you this...

Do you use every single new feature Apple introduces to the iPhone? Literally every single one of them? And all the time? Meaning, every year, there's a new iPhone and new update to iOS with all new features. Do you use every single new feature that's released each year?

Because if not, you must be able to understand my point. Even if there's one tiny new feature that Apple's introduced in the past that you don't use -- a feature that someone else might find useful -- you should understand my point.

 

[jamezr]

I said not using an iPhone. To him he expressed pain points about iPhone to the point where he feels Apple needs to step it up. The things he's yearning for will probably not come immediately, if at all. So using something else, whether it's android or whatever, might suit him better.

You keep asking the same question that I've specifically answered multiple times. I'm curious about all tech. I'm in various threads. Doesn't mean I speak for the companies in general. I'm not a hater of anything, contrary to what you accuse me of. But if you're expressing in multiple threads a dislike for something then maybe you or anyone should not keep using it.

but you keep telling people what is good for them and what they should be using. Stop telling us what phone we should using and let us decide that. it's not your business. Why are you here apologizing for Apple time and time again? Everyone of your posts here is some kind of defense of some sort.
We can point out what we like or don't like about Apple without having you tell us not to use an iPhone.

 

[nj1266]

you are making two errors.
First your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired.
Second you make wide assumptions instead of reading what is in front of you and taking it for what it is.
Did you read what I provided to you? Did you understand it? didn't think so.......
An exploit or vulnerability in any software eventually leads to other exploits and vulnerabilities. Why do you think all companies issue so many patches? Because their are so many vulnerabilities they can't keep up. Because one exploit reveals a vulnerability in the code that leads to another vulnerability and more exploits. It is an endless cycle.

The whole FBI suit was just to start a legal precedent nothing more.

education is a really great thing. This is an interesting read......
https://theintercept.com/2015/03/10/ispy-cia-campaign-steal-apples-secrets/

Please stop being so condescending in your replies to others. You think that you know what you are talking about, but you do not. One exploit DOE NOT lead to another if the hardware is different. The hardware between the 5c and prior iPhones is different than the hardware between the 5s and later iPhones. There is a secure enclave that holds the encryption that has to be cracked. It is not software based like the iPhone 5c. Why don't you understand that? Two different iPhones. Whatever the FBI did on the 5c DOES NOT work on the 5s and later iPhones. It is NOT the same exploit. you need a different exploit to crack the secure enclave.

 

[jamezr]

Please stop being so condescending in your replies to others. You think that you know what you are talking about, but you do not. One exploit DOE NOT lead to another if the hardware is different. The hardware between the 5c and prior iPhones is different than the hardware between the 5s and later iPhones. There is a secure enclave that holds the encryption that has to be cracked. It is not software based like the iPhone 5c. Why don't you understand that? Two different iPhones. Whatever the FBI did on the 5c DOES NOT work on the 5s and later iPhones. It is NOT the same exploit. you need a different exploit to crack the secure enclave.

Dude your stuck the weeds. Take a step back and get some objectivity. Did you read any of the links I gave you? Did you read other posts here in the thread? Any phone can get compromised. The whole FBI suit was just to try to set a legal precedent.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Well it all doesn't matter.... the government is attempting to steam roll everything with this pile of **** bill:

https://rietta.com/blog/2016/04/08/feinstein-burr-encryption-bill/

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

^^^^^ And this is why it's worth trying the competition.

This is why I say it's a very different thing to read about or watch videos of the competition versus owning it and actually using it as your daily driver. The things the S7E can do that the iPhone cannot lead to real world gains. And from there, one can begin to observe where Apple's shortcomings lie.

This is also why I say we should not take what i7guy or others like him say seriously. If they don't want to use non-Apple products, that's their choice and no one can tell them otherwise. But then to have so many of them come here into the Alternatives section to argue points they have no experience in? That's the very definition of ignorance.

And lastly, it's why I said what I said in this post, especially the part in bold:

I'm under no illusions and have praised the S7 since its release here. I've played with it both in store and my brother in law owns one and I'm impressed. But I would still be doing all the basic things on it that I currently do on my iPhone.

I'm from an Android background myself originally and have always been a very basic smartphone user. If I got the S7, it would be a different interface for me than iOS, but I'd still use it for the same apps and tasks no doubt. I'd just enjoy the difference of more shortcuts, and the way you navigate around the phone. On that basis trying something new from the competition would be a luxury rather than a need.

 

[Truefan31]

but you keep telling people what is good for them and what they should be using. Stop telling us what phone we should using and let us decide that. it's not your business. Why are you here apologizing for Apple time and time again? Everyone of your posts here is some kind of defense of some sort.
We can point out what we like or don't like about Apple without having you tell us not to use an iPhone.

I'm not telling anyone what to do. I'm just making a suggestion based on the frustrations some have with certain devices. I'm not telling you what to do, you seem to take things way too personal. I'm not apologizing for Apple, if you or anyone else doesn't like them then I'm suggesting don't use their products. Instead of wishing for things that in reality will either take a while to see or may not come at all. You can ignore me if u want. But I try to understand others logic. Like if you are a security professional and yet you have security concerns about the iPhone, why do you still own and use one?

You sure can point out what you like or don't like about any device. My opinion is if there's things you don't like about something to the point where you're posting in a forum about it then maybe you should find alternatives.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I'm not telling anyone what to do. I'm just making a suggestion based on the frustrations some have with certain devices. I'm not telling you what to do, you seem to take things way too personal. I'm not apologizing for Apple, if you or anyone else doesn't like them then I'm suggesting don't use their products. Instead of wishing for things that in reality will either take a while to see or may not come at all. You can ignore me if u want. But I try to understand others logic. Like if you are a security professional and yet you have security concerns about the iPhone, why do you still own and use one?

You sure can point out what you like or don't like about any device. My opinion is if there's things you don't like about something to the point where you're posting in a forum about it then maybe you should find alternatives.

Do you believe there is a perfect/flawless device in existence?

 

[jamezr]

I'm not telling anyone what to do. I'm just making a suggestion based on the frustrations some have with certain devices. I'm not telling you what to do, you seem to take things way too personal. I'm not apologizing for Apple, if you or anyone else doesn't like them then I'm suggesting don't use their products. Instead of wishing for things that in reality will either take a while to see or may not come at all. You can ignore me if u want. But I try to understand others logic. Like if you are a security professional and yet you have security concerns about the iPhone, why do you still own and use one?

You sure can point out what you like or don't like about any device. My opinion is if there's things you don't like about something to the point where you're posting in a forum about it then maybe you should find alternatives.

But you have done exactly that to me and to epicrayban in this same thread.
You keep apologizing for everything Apple repeatedly. If you don't like it when people criticize Apple just ignore them. You have that option.
My opinion is anyone who says they dislike something like Android or Samsung should probably NOT be posting or following Android or Samsung threads.
Something they have stated they do not like yet spend a great amount of time posting on internet forum about something you do not like........ we all have opinions.

Then if you do like what I have to say.....ignore me....see we all have opinions and suggestions......
Then if you really read my security concerns like you said. I stated any phone can be compromised.

 

[Truefan31]

Do you believe there is a perfect/flawless device in existence?

Each person has different views on what they value. So what I think is a so called perfect device will differ to others.

 

[Truefan31]

But you have done exactly that to me and to epicrayban in this same thread.
You keep apologizing for everything Apple repeatedly. If you don't like it when people criticize Apple just ignore them. You have that option.
My opinion is anyone who says they dislike something like Android or Samsung should probably NOT be posting or following Android or Samsung threads.
Something they have stated they do not like yet spend a great amount of time posting on internet forum about something you do not like........ we all have opinions.

Then if you do like what I have to say.....ignore me....see we all have opinions and suggestions......
Then if you really read my security concerns like you said. I stated any phone can be compromised.

I'm not apologizing for Apple. Apple products aren't for everyone, just like any other product. Feel free to criticize whatever, or wish for whatever. But in reality these companies don't care about people in these forums. So the wishlist people constantly yearn for are just that, imagined wishes.

Your opinion is fine, as is mine, the issue is when people think opinions speak for everyone.

I read that you posted several links to illustrate the supposed security leaks on iOS yet your a security professional. But you state you continually use your iPhone 6s Plus. Then you say any device can be compromised. Sure I agree with that. But I'd think as a security professional if you think iOS is less secure, to the point of posting links about it, then you'd be less inclined to own and keep data on a iOS device. Unless you don't value your security that high. If that's the case so be it. But I asked you because I was curious as to your logic still using an iPhone. Instead of a detailed answer I get called a hater and/or apologist. Fine, it's your business, but to me it's not any clearer the logic behind it.

 

[jamezr]

I'm not apologizing for Apple. Apple products aren't for everyone, just like any other product. Feel free to criticize whatever, or wish for whatever. But in reality these companies don't care about people in these forums. So the wishlist people constantly yearn for are just that, imagined wishes.

Your opinion is fine, as is mine, the issue is when people think opinions speak for everyone.

Like telling people not to use Apple products because of their posts? Or always explaining away all Apple's short comings. Nope you never are apologetic. For someone who does not like Android or Samsung you sure spend a great of your time here in the alternative section. You should try following your own advice instead giving advice to others.

 

[Truefan31]

Like telling people not to use Apple products because of their posts? Or always explaining away all Apple's short comings. Nope you never are apologetic. For someone who does not like Android or Samsung you sure spend a great of your time here in the alternative section. You should try following your own advice instead giving advice to others.

Sure, if someone has several criticisms of a product, complains about it on forums, I'd suggest not using it. Apple or not.

I don't think I've said I hated android or Samsung. Again my main criticism of Samsung is their powerful influence in Korea.

Lol you don't have to follow my suggestion. Again you're taking things way too personal.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Each person has different views on what they value. So what I think is a so called perfect device will differ to others.

And what's the perfect device for you?

 

[jamezr]

Sure, if someone has several criticisms of a product, complains about it on forums, I'd suggest not using it. Apple or not.

I don't think I've said I hated android or Samsung. Again my main criticism of Samsung is their powerful influence in Korea.

Lol you don't have to follow my suggestion. Again you're taking things way too personal.

Like i said take your own advice...don't like Android or Samsung...stay out of the forums. Pretty simple.......don't like certain posters....put them on ignore....again pretty simple solutions. You like to give out advice and tell people what they should do. You should follow your own advice.....
It is personal when you tell someone "based on your postings you should not use an iphone" That's pretty personal. You have said this to me in the past and to epicrayban in this thread.

 

[Truefan31]

Like i said take your own advice...don't like Android or Samsung...stay out of the forums. Pretty simple.......don't like certain posters....put them on ignore....again pretty simple solutions. You like to give out advice and tell people what they should do. You should follow your own advice.....
It is personal when you tell someone "based on your postings you should not use an iphone" That's pretty personal. You have said this to me in the past and to epicrayban in this thread.

And I said again I don't dislike android or Samsung. I don't mind conversations with differing opinions.

Lol I'm basing suggestions on posts people put up. I don't know anyone personally. It sounds like again you're taking it to heart too much.

 

[Truefan31]

And what's the perfect device for you?

I don't look at it as a perfect device. Imo there isn't one.

 

[jamezr]

And I said again I don't dislike android or Samsung. I don't mind conversations with differing opinions.

Lol I'm basing suggestions on posts people put up. I don't know anyone personally. It sounds like again you're taking it to heart too much.

but you have stated you don't like Android and would not buy and Android device. You have stated you hate Samsung. So again following your own advice and what you post.....why are you here in the alternative section? What Android phones have you had?
I am just taking things at face value based on your posts.

 

[Truefan31]

but you have stated you don't like Android and would not buy and Android device. You have stated you hate Samsung. So again following your own advice and what you post.....why are you here in the alternative section? What Android phones have you had?
I am just taking things at face value based on your posts.

I don't remember saying I hate Samsung. And I don't recall ever saying I'd never buy an android device.

 

[Radon87000]

Sure, if someone has several criticisms of a product, complains about it on forums, I'd suggest not using it. Apple or not.

I don't think I've said I hated android or Samsung. Again my main criticism of Samsung is their powerful influence in Korea.

Lol you don't have to follow my suggestion. Again you're taking things way too personal.

Have you ever handled a Galaxy S7?Trust me the normal version really makes the iPhone look like an abomination from 2010.Honestly it's very easy to factually say the S7 is better.If the Galaxy S7 ran iOS,all Apple fans would be dying to buy one launch day.On the other hand if the iPhone 6s ran Android,would Android fans buy it?Not really because of the dated desig and screen.

 

[Truefan31]

Have you ever handled a Galaxy S7?Trust me the normal version really makes the iPhone look like an abomination from 2010.Honestly it's very easy to factually say the S7 is better.If the Galaxy S7 ran iOS,all Apple fans would be dying to buy one launch day.On the other hand if the iPhone 6s ran Android,would Android fans buy it?Not really because of the dated desig and screen.

If you think the s7 makes the iPhone look like an abomination so be it. But I don't think everyone feels that way.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Have you ever handled a Galaxy S7?Trust me the normal version really makes the iPhone look like an abomination from 2010.Honestly it's very easy to factually say the S7 is better.If the Galaxy S7 ran iOS,all Apple fans would be dying to buy one launch day.On the other hand if the iPhone 6s ran Android,would Android fans buy it?Not really because of the dated desig and screen.

I've handled an S7 and it's a really lovely device that has given Apple plenty to think about. Does it make the iPhone 'look like an abomination from 2010'? No, that's a silly exaggeration of biased proportions.

 

[zonazolazia]

After seeing S7 review, I was tempted to try and bought S7 Flat. This time, I gave iPhone 6S to my mother and wanted to use S7 as my only and main device. After using S7 for a week, I sold it and went back to iPhone.

I really like S7 screen and camera. The performance was also very smooth, not as smooth as iPhone 6S, but its waaay better than any previous Samsung device I have ever used. Battery life is also good, last me for a full day every day.

But my biggest problem is Apps and Integration with my other Apple device.

There is no browser on Android that is as good as Safari in terms of speed and functionality. Chrome is really bad on OS X, Samsung Internet is fast and smooth but don't have desktop sync, open in background, and many other feature. Firefox is the closest and has all Safari feature, but still not as good as Safari, such as can't click small link without zooming, scrolling lag, etc.

Apps are still better on iOS, at least the app that I regularly use. When following live thread on Tapatalk Android, refreshing the thread will bring you to top, which is frustrating. Tapatalk on iOS will keep position while refreshing a thread. Fantasy Premier League app on Android is pure garbage compare to iOS version, like its coded by a 5 years old. Many local apps (Indonesia) such as banking, e-commerce, and community are better on iOS than Android.

Also, there seems to be no guideline in submitting apps to Play Store. Apps interface are very random and can have different font, styling, text boxes, etc.

Fingerprint scanner on S7 is iPhone 5S quality. My success rate is only 80% even though I have registered same finger twice. I also can't ever unlocked my phone using fingerprint scanner if its lying on table. On 6S, the success rate is 98% and works even if its on the table.

So, for me, iPhone 6S is still superior than S7. But I can see why other people prefer S7. I don't believe one device is objectively better than the other. Its a matter of preference.

 

[Radon87000]

If you think the s7 makes the iPhone look like an abomination so be it. But I don't think everyone feels that way.

I've handled an S7 and it's a really lovely device that has given Apple plenty to think about. Does it make the iPhone 'look like an abomination from 2010'? No, that's a silly exaggeration of biased proportions.

Just look at the bezels and the screen to body ratios of the two devices.The S7 looks tiny in front of the enormous iPhone

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Just look at the bezels and the screen to body ratios of the two devices.The S7 looks tiny in front of the enormous iPhone

I'm shrugging my shoulders here mate. I don't generally buy a phone based on looks and the iPhone 6 Plus is a huge phone I would never buy anyway.