is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[epicrayban]

Nah. Cook has pretty much said that the decline is because of the massive sales of iPhone 6's last year and then the influx of the 6S during the Chinese New Year a few months back. Basically, very few new iPhone buyers left willing to buy mid-year in China. So yeah, a minor decline in sales is expected in this Quarter and maybe even the follow on quarter until the iPhone 7 release.

Personally, I think that was why they released the iPhone 5S aka SE; To help mitigate the financial loss with a high profit, low cost iPhone that they already had assembly lines tooled for.

Good call.

I understand some of the complaints, but I'm happy about the SE. I'm always up for more competition in the small-to-midsized smartphone space.

 

[Lloydbm41]

Good call.

I understand some of the complaints, but I'm happy about the SE. I'm always up for more competition in the small-to-midsized smartphone space.

I'm enjoying my SE. I'm rocking my pink iPhone in style. A female coworker looked at me funny and I said, "What?!? Gotta problem with my cool Rose Gold iPhone?" She was kinda taken back and then said, "Nope." She has a rose gold 6S+. I think she was jealous.

 

[Radon87000]

So essentially your argument is a straw man, got it. Considering they list models what models are listed?

As Jerry McGuire said: "show me the money". iOw coulda, woulda, shoulda.

And now to completely destroy your argument,Cellebrite JUST ADMITTED that they HACKED an iPhone 6 and they bypassed the so called Secure Enclave

http://9to5mac.com/2016/04/11/cellebrite-iphone-6-hack-optimistic/

Cellebrite, the company widely believed to have accessed the San Bernardino iPhone for the FBI, is reportedly ‘optimistic’ that it will also be able to access a locked iPhone 6.

CNN reports that Italian architect Leonardo Fabbretti met with the company last week to see whether it could help gain access to his dead son’s iPhone. Before his death from bone cancer, 13-year-old Dama Fabbretti had added his father’s thumbprint to allow him access – but the phone required the passcode after a restart, and his father doesn’t know the code.

Apple had told him it was impossible to access the iPhone without the passcode, but Fabretti toldCNN that Cellebrite has already made progress …

“I just came back from their office in northern Italy. The meeting went well. They were able to download the directories with the iPhone’s content, but there is still work to be done in order to access the files,” Fabbretti said.

Those files contain the months of photos and conversations the dad so desperately wants to see, including a handful of videos taken three days before his son died.

Fabbretti said that the company had told him it was ‘optimistic’ about its chances of accessing the files. Both Apple and Cellebrite refused to comment on the case.

The FBI last week advised that the method used to access the San Bernardino phone does not work on the iPhone 5s or later, which appeared to confirm earlier speculation that the passcode bypass would not work on models with a Secure Enclave. If Cellebrite has a new method that successfully breaks into the iPhone 6, that will leave Apple with further work to do to secure future iPhones.

 

[jamezr]

And now to completely destroy your argument,Cellebrite JUST ADMITTED that they HACKED an iPhone 6 and they bypassed the so called Secure Enclave

http://9to5mac.com/2016/04/11/cellebrite-iphone-6-hack-optimistic/

Cellebrite, the company widely believed to have accessed the San Bernardino iPhone for the FBI, is reportedly ‘optimistic’ that it will also be able to access a locked iPhone 6.

CNN reports that Italian architect Leonardo Fabbretti met with the company last week to see whether it could help gain access to his dead son’s iPhone. Before his death from bone cancer, 13-year-old Dama Fabbretti had added his father’s thumbprint to allow him access – but the phone required the passcode after a restart, and his father doesn’t know the code.

Apple had told him it was impossible to access the iPhone without the passcode, but Fabretti toldCNN that Cellebrite has already made progress …




Fabbretti said that the company had told him it was ‘optimistic’ about its chances of accessing the files. Both Apple and Cellebrite refused to comment on the case.

The FBI last week advised that the method used to access the San Bernardino phone does not work on the iPhone 5s or later, which appeared to confirm earlier speculation that the passcode bypass would not work on models with a Secure Enclave. If Cellebrite has a new method that successfully breaks into the iPhone 6, that will leave Apple with further work to do to secure future iPhones.

Yep....we knew it was just a matter of time and effort. THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN'T BE COMPROMISED. Not in this day and age. If a group or entity wants access and they have the skillset and time they can gain access. It is just the world we live in now. All the publicity and posturing between Apple and the FBI just made the iphone the device to hack world wide now. The iphone has a target on it for every hacker/security group in the world so they can have bragging rights.

 

[I7guy]

And now to completely destroy your argument,Cellebrite JUST ADMITTED that they HACKED an iPhone 6 and they bypassed the so called Secure Enclave

http://9to5mac.com/2016/04/11/cellebrite-iphone-6-hack-optimistic/

Cellebrite, the company widely believed to have accessed the San Bernardino iPhone for the FBI, is reportedly ‘optimistic’ that it will also be able to access a locked iPhone 6.

CNN reports that Italian architect Leonardo Fabbretti met with the company last week to see whether it could help gain access to his dead son’s iPhone. Before his death from bone cancer, 13-year-old Dama Fabbretti had added his father’s thumbprint to allow him access – but the phone required the passcode after a restart, and his father doesn’t know the code.

Apple had told him it was impossible to access the iPhone without the passcode, but Fabretti toldCNN that Cellebrite has already made progress …




Fabbretti said that the company had told him it was ‘optimistic’ about its chances of accessing the files. Both Apple and Cellebrite refused to comment on the case.

The FBI last week advised that the method used to access the San Bernardino phone does not work on the iPhone 5s or later, which appeared to confirm earlier speculation that the passcode bypass would not work on models with a Secure Enclave. If Cellebrite has a new method that successfully breaks into the iPhone 6, that will leave Apple with further work to do to secure future iPhones.

Optimistic is destroying my argument? Ok then.
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Yep....we knew it was just a matter of time and effort. THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN'T BE COMPROMISED. Not in this day and age. If a group or entity wants access and they have the skillset and time they can gain access. It is just the world we live in now. All the publicity and posturing between Apple and the FBI just made the iphone the device to hack world wide now. The iphone has a target on it for every hacker/security group in the world so they can have bragging rights.

There is nothing that can't be compromised with enough money, time and compute power....otherwise there are some encryptions that can't be easily reversed.

 

[jamezr]

Optimistic is destroying my argument? Ok then.
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There is nothing that can't be compromised with enough money, time and compute power....otherwise there are some encryptions that can't be easily reversed.

You do realize...they don't have to crack the encryption to get data from the phone. They can engineer the user to input their pin or passwords through software. If the NSA or other entities want your data...they will get it.
Then they won't advertise they can do this...it defeats the whole secretive behind the scenes mantra they live by....
They can spy passwords and pins when entered on phones now.

Washington, however, has other methods of extracting data from phones that don’t require passwords. The CIA, the National Security Agency and the FBI have been working oninvasive and non-invasive methods of data extraction for more than a decade. Many security experts believe the intelligence agencies have devised unique solutions to problems just like the San Bernardino phone.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-deba...t-a-legal-precedent-not-break-into-an-iphone/

 

[epicrayban]

This still makes me sad that I can only update on WiFi. Part of the greater problem of inability to download large files without WiFi.

Also, I just noticed, once you do get on WiFi, there's no way to actually know what WiFi network you're on via Control Center or the pull down shade. In TouchWiz's quick toggle pull down, the WiFi icon shows what network you're on (ditto which Bluetooth device you're connected to). Control Center shows you nothing. You also can't long press the WiFi icon in Control Center to jump directly into the WiFi settings.

Please correct me if I'm doing something wrong. But just one of many ways Apple can build upon Control Center functionality. Open it up. Let us, the user, pick what toggles we want, and let the toggles themselves show and do more.

 

[Fernandez21]

This still makes me sad that I can only update on WiFi. Part of the greater problem of inability to download large files without WiFi.

Also, I just noticed, once you do get on WiFi, there's no way to actually know what WiFi network you're on via Control Center or the pull down shade. In TouchWiz's quick toggle pull down, the WiFi icon shows what network you're on (ditto which Bluetooth device you're connected to). Control Center shows you nothing. You also can't long press the WiFi icon in Control Center to jump directly into the WiFi settings.

Please correct me if I'm doing something wrong. But just one of many ways Apple can build upon Control Center functionality.

If you have the S version, you can 3d touch the settings icon and jump strait into wifi settings.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

This still makes me sad that I can only update on WiFi. Part of the greater problem of inability to download large files without WiFi.

I would say at the very least, Apple could make the limit higher. 293mb doesn't take much from most people's data plans nowadays. And with LTE, it will download quickly.

Apple really needs to do like Android and give warnings with a choice, with the abilty to block choices from kids if need be.

 

[epicrayban]

If you have the S version, you can 3d touch the settings icon and jump strait into wifi settings.

Ah, I see. Nice. I always said 3D Touch makes a lot of sense for iOS. Though I don't understand why they can't just allow long-press for devices before the 6S.

Still wish they would show what WiFi network you're on in CC, though. And they can still open up CC for customization.

 

[Fernandez21]

Ah, I see. Nice. I always said 3D Touch makes a lot of sense for iOS. Though I don't understand why they can't just allow long-press for devices before the 6S.

Plus, once they can just open up CC for customization and it'll be caught up.

Because if you long press the settings icon they start wiggling to reorganize. There really isn't a way to allow 3D Touch on older devices because they added 3D Touch in addition to long press which has always been there.

Do agree with just showing a warning and allowing you to decide. And opening up control center. I think the CC customization will be coming in iOS 10.

 

[epicrayban]

I would say at the very least, Apple could make the limit higher. 293mb doesn't take much from most people's data plans nowadays. And with LTE, it will download quickly.

Apple really needs to do like Android and give warnings with a choice, with the abilty to block choices from kids if need be.

Yup. Also, doesn't Android allow user profiles? So you could just switch users to a "kid safe" version with less access? Otherwise, 100% agree with you. At this point, these iOS safety measure feel more like unnecessary limitations.

We're adults, Apple. Let us be responsible for our own device.
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Because if you long press the settings icon they start wiggling to reorganize. There really isn't a way to allow 3D Touch on older devices because they added 3D Touch in addition to long press which has always been there.

Do agree with just showing a warning and allowing you to decide. And opening up control center. I think the CC customization will be coming in iOS 10.

Right. Good point. I guess that would confuse people if long press did two different things depending on home screen versus CC. 3D Touch works, too.

 

[Fernandez21]

Yup. Also, doesn't Android allow user profiles? So you could just switch users to a "kid safe" version with less access? Otherwise, 100% agree with you. At this point, these iOS safety measure feel more like unnecessary limitations.

We're adults, Apple. Let us be responsible for our own device.
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Right. Good point. I guess that would confuse people if long press did two different things depending on home screen versus CC. 3D Touch works, too.

Well, long press in CC could work like on the home screen and allow you to reorganize your system shortcuts, then you could deep press to say pick your wifi or Bluetooth connection or jump strait into those settings.

 

[mellofello]

Quick 5 week update. Came from a 6s+ to the S7e in chrome.

No turning back for me. I can't articulate all the myriad things I like better about this phone. All I can say is that if you take the time to setup your Android correctly it will look gorgeous, and run flawlessly.

 

[epicrayban]

Quick 5 week update. Came from a 6s+ to the S7e in chrome.

No turning back for me. I can't articulate all the myriad things I like better about this phone. All I can say is that if you take the time to setup your Android correctly it will look gorgeous, and run flawlessly.

Android is at a point where most flagships and mid-rangers will work fine and great out of the box, but indeed, if you give it a little extra attention and love, the device can really sing.

Customization, folks; it ain't just aesthetics.

 

[5105973]

Quick 5 week update. Came from a 6s+ to the S7e in chrome.

No turning back for me. I can't articulate all the myriad things I like better about this phone. All I can say is that if you take the time to setup your Android correctly it will look gorgeous, and run flawlessly.

Can you articulate a couple of them then, so that I may live vicariously though you!

I have two Apple Watches and am entrenched in i-message and FaceTime with family and some friends so I am not leaving iOS anytime soon. But I think the S7e is ergonomically pleasing for a large phone and very aesthetically pleasing as well. I would love to hear what I'm missing. I think Samsung did a very nice job with this model and finally shed their "Samesung" nickname.

 

[I7guy]

You do realize...they don't have to crack the encryption to get data from the phone. They can engineer the user to input their pin or passwords through software. If the NSA or other entities want your data...they will get it.
Then they won't advertise they can do this...it defeats the whole secretive behind the scenes mantra they live by....
They can spy passwords and pins when entered on phones now.



http://blogs.reuters.com/great-deba...t-a-legal-precedent-not-break-into-an-iphone/

According to new information the method the fbi used does not work on 5s and above.

 

[jamezr]

According to new information the method the fbi used does not work on 5s and above.

That not new information. The FBI even says as much to all the media. But Cellebrite says they have a way to get into the 6 and 6s..... Then the NSA can get into any phone anywhere at any time they want to.

 

[epicrayban]

Seems everyone knows how to do antennae lines better than Apple. From the verge:

Meizu's Pro 6 has a 10-core processor and prettier antenna lines than the iPhone

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/13/11420030/meizu-pro-6-official-specs-release-date-price-photos

 

[jamezr]

Seems everyone knows how to do antennae lines better than Apple. From the verge:

Meizu's Pro 6 has a 10-core processor and prettier antenna lines than the iPhone

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/13/11420030/meizu-pro-6-official-specs-release-date-price-photos

I saw that too. Soon antennae lines will be a thing of the past!

 

[Truefan31]

Seems everyone knows how to do antennae lines better than Apple. From the verge:

Meizu's Pro 6 has a 10-core processor and prettier antenna lines than the iPhone

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/13/11420030/meizu-pro-6-official-specs-release-date-price-photos

Guess that's the dealbreaker then. Antenna lines.

 

[jamezr]

lol...queue the first apologetic post.....3...2....1...there it is ^^^^^^

 

[Truefan31]

lol...queue the first apologetic post.....3...2....1...there it is ^^^^^^

Just that success breeds envy..."look our antenna bands are prettier"

 

[nj1266]

That not new information. The FBI even says as much to all the media. But Cellebrite says they have a way to get into the 6 and 6s..... Then the NSA can get into any phone anywhere at any time they want to.

Cellebrite said they are "optimistic" about finding a way to crack the 6. Optimistic is way off from what you just said. You said "they have a way." That is reading way too much into the word optimistic. For a person who accuses others of having a reading comprehension problem, you seem to have your own.

 

[jamezr]

Just that success breeds envy..."look our antenna bands are prettier"

lol...take it up with the Verge........ you mad now bruh?

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Cellebrite said they are "optimistic" about finding a way to crack the 6. Optimistic is way off from what you just said. You said "they have a way." That is reading way too much into the word optimistic. For a person who accuses others of having a reading comprehension problem, you seem to have your own.

You're in the weeds again and failed to get the whole context of the interaction. You're so intent on trying to prove me wrong that you missed the whole thing! Reading comprehension........ try it......

You do realize...they don't have to crack the encryption to get data from the phone. They can engineer the user to input their pin or passwords through software. If the NSA or other entities want your data...they will get it.
Then they won't advertise they can do this...it defeats the whole secretive behind the scenes mantra they live by....
They can spy passwords and pins when entered on phones now.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-deba...t-a-legal-precedent-not-break-into-an-iphone/