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madKIR

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I doubt it. They didn't fix the intel modem in the iPhone 7 and 8. At least you could buy a verizon or carrier-less version with the good modem back then. Now we are all screwed thanks to Intel.


What we will probably get, if anything, is software limits on all the older phones to make them work as poorly as the newer phones.
I was just thinking about these two things earlier today! First of all, there is no way to buy a new generation iPhone with the Qualcomm modem anymore (I'm talking about the X generation here). Second of all, I'm afraid they can totally cap the performance of the Qualcomm X in new software updates to make sure it's not significantly better than the XS. I'm literally growing so tired of their greed and these tactics.
 
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Packers1958

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Get ready for Apple saying nothing is wrong with the phone and it's the fault of the carriers. And the carriers will respond, it's not their networks but the phones. And on and on this will go for months, and then suddenly in will be September 2019 and everyone will be waiting for the new iPhone. That's when it will be fixed.
 

Ortiz83

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I was just thinking about these two things earlier today! First of all, there is no way to buy a new generation iPhone with the Qualcomm modem anymore (I'm talking about the X generation here). Second of all, I'm afraid they can totally cap the performance of the Qualcomm X in new software updates to make sure it's not significantly better than the XS. I'm literally growing so tired of their greed and these tactics.

So then it’s time you build your own phone with your own internal parts.

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Velin

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New article at WiWavelength posted ten minutes ago. Not looking good:

Well, over the weekend, more and more early adopters started getting their hands on their brand new iPhones, posting their real world impressions online. While opinions on RF performance have varied from high praise to utter disillusionment, some anecdotal user reports and empirical signal comparisons at MacRumors forums and in more than one Reddit thread have been notable because they appear to corroborate how the aforementioned lab test results submitted to the FCC might extrapolate to less than stellar real world performance.

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But returning to the present, if the disappointing RF performance that at least some appear to be experiencing eight years later with iPhone XS and XS Max does boil down to another antenna issue -- weak antenna gain this time -- holding the handset differently or adding a case/bumper is not going to solve the issue....

The new iPhones undoubtedly show some measured RF shortcomings compared to their predecessors and other comparable handsets.

Sticking with my iPhone 7 until iPhone XI.
 

touchstoned

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Apr 4, 2015
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Get ready for Apple saying nothing is wrong with the phone and it's the fault of the carriers. And the carriers will respond, it's not their networks but the phones. And on and on this will go for months, and then suddenly in will be September 2019 and everyone will be waiting for the new iPhone. That's when it will be fixed.
That's what happened last year, and the year before. The iPhone 7 and 8 had the same problem with intel modems.


The difference now is you literally CAN'T buy an iPhone with a good modem in the US anymore. So while about half of customers got a good product in the 7/8/X and half got screwed, now they just have people getting screwed. Which creates a problem of "where do you look to find info that contradicts reality?". There will be no reviews of an iPhone XS or Max saying they have good reception like they did with the QC X/8/7
 

hotsaucetomato

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Sep 24, 2018
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Wait for the blame game to start carriers vs Apple instead this time.
I have great evidence.
How come my iPhone 8 and iPhone X getting better signal bars/speeds in the same area/same house/same workplace.
I even tried the same sim card I can rule out sim card fault/area fault/house fault/workplace fault/carrier fault.
What the excuse Apple have this time holding it wrong.
 
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OTACORB

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and your likely in a rock solid cell phone area in the middle of a big city . Go to a fringe area and you will have major problems.

I have been in a fringe area for a few hours inside a metal building. No drops, only 1 bar even switching to 3G and call quality was fine. So you are wrong not everyone is having the same experience.
 

balaplus

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The difference now is you literally CAN'T buy an iPhone with a good modem in the US anymore. So while about half of customers got a good product in the 7/8/X and half got screwed, now they just have people getting screwed. Which creates a problem of "where do you look to find info that contradicts reality?". There will be no reviews of an iPhone XS or Max saying they have good reception like they did with the QC X/8/7
It would seem that is going to remain the case till Apple develops its own modem in about 3 years time
 

George Knighton

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You guys really had me worried, so I am paying particular attention today, travelling a couple hundred miles with my XS Max.

Cellular service seems pretty typical for T-Mobile around the DC area.

Where I had no signal with the X, I still have no signal with the XS Max. This is typically in old buildings put up well before people worried about cell signals, and there are no repeaters.

It’s only a couple of places with no signal, and it’s the same two places.

On the other hand, when there is even one bar of service, the data throughput is much better.

This is not true at my home in the country, where we are on old and overcrowded arrays.
 
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touchstoned

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You guys really had me worried, so I am paying particular attention today, travelling a couple hundred miles with my XS Max.

Cellular service seems pretty typical for T-Mobile around the DC area.

Where I had no signal with the X, I still have no signal with the XS Max. This is typically in old buildings put up well before people worried about cell signals, and there are no repeaters.

It’s only a couple of places with no signal, and it’s the same two places.

On the other hand, when there is even one bar of service, the data throughput is much better.

This is not true at my home in the country, where we are on old and overcrowded arrays.


You are a T-Mobile user, so you're going from crap intel modem to crap intel modem, hence why there is no difference.
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It would seem that is going to remain the case till Apple develops its own modem in about 3 years time
Or until they come sulking back to qualcomm with their tail between their legs, apologize, and pay a big fine to get a decent modem.


my guess is they would rather screw their own customers than apologize and give up on their frivolous lawsuits.
 

Phone Junky

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That's what happened last year, and the year before. The iPhone 7 and 8 had the same problem with intel modems.


The difference now is you literally CAN'T buy an iPhone with a good modem in the US anymore. So while about half of customers got a good product in the 7/8/X and half got screwed, now they just have people getting screwed. Which creates a problem of "where do you look to find info that contradicts reality?". There will be no reviews of an iPhone XS or Max saying they have good reception like they did with the QC X/8/7
Hanging on to my SIM-free, unlocked Qualcomm modemed X for the foreseeable future. :)
 

dazz87

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And that is a typical behavior of the Intel modem! That's what I had last year on the 8 Plus and X, both with Intel. Once I switched to the Qualcomm X, it was no longer the case. I have a feeling that the new XS has fallen victim of this very questionable combo: the new Intel modem and the new Apple antenna design. I have been toying with the idea of upgrading to the XS Max, but these intentions are completely shattered now that I'm reading how bad the reception is on the new iPhones.
Apple just being cheap again and not paying Qualcomm and now customers are stuck with crappy Intel......
 

John webstar44

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ahaha This thread brings back memories remember the old days intel released the intel prescott cpu overheat problems.
Now they done the intel modem signal issue problem. lol
 
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