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apolloa

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Last year the intel modems were pretty much fine. So unless went backwards with design its probably more so antenna design. Geez.

Well, some people reported weaker signals and slower speed with the Intel modems last year.. I do believe they are new ones this year. But that website that keeps getting quoted is stating it’s the antenna design so I’m going with that for now, hopefully Apple will be able to fix it...
 

ROLLTIDE1

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Not when you're clueless. BTW, Apple now has over 1000 trouble tickets open on this very issue that doesn't exist.
And if wasn't a major problem the engineering team wouldn't be trying hard to get there hands on devices with wifi and cellular issues
 

aka777

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Not when you're clueless. BTW, Apple now has over 1000 trouble tickets open on this very issue.

Then proof from everyone making the claims shouldn't be a problem. That is, videos of the phones running speedtests side-by-side with an older qualcomm iphone.
 

Freakonomics101

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Well, some people reported weaker signals and slower speed with the Intel modems last year.. I do believe they are new ones this year. But that website that keeps getting quoted is stating it’s the antenna design so I’m going with that for now, hopefully Apple will be able to fix it...

The Intel modems weren’t as good as the Qualcomm modem but the Intel modems did pretty well, signal wise. Nowhere near this bad.
 

aka777

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I struggle to believe they asked you to ship your device to them. That’s what I found funny. Did this genuinely happen dude?

Whenever I have had an issue, I have been able to replicate the issue and show proof of this. Apparently, most on here, especially the new posters, just keep on coming here and posting about this terrible issue, with basically zero proof of their own.
 
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ROLLTIDE1

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I struggle to believe they asked you to ship your device to them. That’s what I found funny. Did this genuinely happen dude?
Yes they asked me to do it . They want these devices so they can track down the problem . They are telling me it's not a software issue. I am back to my Iphone 7
 
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Packers1958

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Whenever I have had an issue, I have been able to replicate the issue and show proof of this. Apparently, most on here, especially the new posters, just keep on coming here and posting about this terrible issue, with basically zero proof of their own.
It appears you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
 
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aka777

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Yes they asked me to do it . They want these devices so they can track down the problem . I am back to my Iphone 7

Right, so let me guess, you "already shipped it out", so you can't show any proof of your issues.

[doublepost=1538085879][/doublepost]
It appears you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

Still waiting for visual proof of this issue from a handful of those 1000 affected.
 

scrappygolucky

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You mean OCD folks or the folks who seem to pop out of the woodworks with an issue every single launch.

I have both iphones and galaxy range phones for work. The alleged signal differences between the two are basically non-existent. Ok, the S9 sometimes connects back to LTE coverage x seconds faster than an iphone.

Android users and manufacturers still don't seem to grasp why we use apple. Hint: is isn't because of one or two speedtests. Granted, Apple pretty much beats them in every benchmark but LTE speeds. Then again, most people don't walk around running speedtests. They actually use their phone. For anyone living in a metro area, as in the majority of people today, fringe coverage is not an issue.

I'm not sure how you would come to the conclusion that because your phone works, everyone else is suffering from mass delusion. And if you'd read this thread, it's not about speedtests, it's about dropped calls and signal loss.

The poll is now running at almost 44% of users experiencing worse signal.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-xs-max-signal-poll.2142585/

The wiwavelength posted that the upcoming XR with the old antenna design performed far better in tests than the XS/XS Max. That is objective, verifiable data.
https://www.wiwavelength.com/2018/09/iphone-xr-trades-4x4-mimo-for-greater.html?m=1
https://www.wiwavelength.com/2018/09/iphone-xs-and-xs-max-mostly-fail-to.html

You're making it into some kind of us-vs-them fight when it's just about people wanting their phone to work. To believe that it's an android conspiracy is both tribalistic and bizarrely paranoid.
 

Packers1958

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Right, so let me guess, you "already shipped it out", so you can show any proof of your issues.
You are showing exactly how clueless you really are. You honestly don't have any clue how Apple handles returns? Please tell me you have just a crumb of understanding on how it works, please.
 

ROLLTIDE1

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Right, so let me guess, you "already shipped it out", so you can show any proof of your issues.
[doublepost=1538085879][/doublepost]

Still waiting for visual proof of this issue from those affected.
I logged over 1K miles on 2 phones my XS and Iphone 7 trying to help apple with this problem . What have you done to help with the problem ?
 

aka777

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Right, a poll.

The wiwavelength posted that the upcoming XR with the old antenna

A blog site using FCC reports, with zero actual testing of their own.

You're making it into some kind of us-vs-them fight when it's just about people wanting their phone to work. To believe that it's an android conspiracy is both tribalistic and bizarrely paranoid.

Not at all. I have been very critical of Apple in the past. But this just smells like hyperbole and paid bloggers. It doesn't pass the BS sniff test, aka common sense, that apparently apple forgot to check signal levels in their 11th iPhone.
 

vinegarshots

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Right, so let me guess, you "already shipped it out", so you can show any proof of your issues.

The Everythingapplepro review on youtube mentioned problems with connectivity on his device, so it's kind of silly to act like no one has legit complaints:


However, even if there are 1000 units with problems, and lets say there are 500,000 units in the wild, thats only 0.2% of people with problems. Typical consumer electronics have a ~15% failure rate over 3 years statistically, so we are currently looking at a very small sample.

There's some hyperbole on both sides here. Yes, there are probably some units with problems. No, it's probably not a huge recall-worthy issue.
 

aka777

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The Everythingapplepro review on youtube mentioned problems with connectivity on his device, so it's kind of silly to act like no one has legit complaints:

Cool but where is every else's proof. It wouldn't take but 1 minute to keep two phones side-by-side and run a speedtest or two at the same time. A test via LTE and the other via WIFI.
 

Packers1958

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Right, a poll.



A blog site using FCC reports, with zero actual testing of their own.



Not at all. I have been very critical of Apple in the past. But this just smells like hyperbole and paid bloggers. It doesn't pass the BS sniff test, aka common sense, that apparently apple forgot to check signal levels in their 11th iPhone.

Did you actually click on the FCC links that indeed show they tested the new iPhones? Please tell me you did? Or are you going to ignore actual tests.

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=ZHPgs4IJV/jmw+BctAimUw==&fcc_id=BCG-E3219A
 

aka777

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Did you actually click on the FCC links that indeed show they tested the new iPhones? Please tell me you did? Or are you going to ignore actual tests.

FCC tests phones for radiation and interference compliance. They're not anandtech testing for quality and speed.
 
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Nhwhazup

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Then proof from everyone making the claims shouldn't be a problem. That is, videos of the phones running speedtests side-by-side with an older qualcomm iphone.
I posted the speed tests to this forum showing 4 Apple devices at my house. 3 of the 4 were normal LTE download speeds for us at 3 - 4. I know pitiful but normal. The Max was running at between .12 and .14 download and yes that is a decimal point.

Others have also posted their screen tests.

At the Apple store they did a restore as new and didn’t seem surprised when it still tested extremely low. They didn’t even try to talk me out of a return.

And I can honestly say, I really like the Max and still want another as soon as this issue has been addressed and I stand a good chance of getting a phone that works.

And as I’ve said before, I’m not a troll.
 

aka777

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I logged over 1K miles on 2 phones my XS and Iphone 7 trying to help apple with this problem . What have you done to help with the problem ?

But apparently you forgot to run a few actual speedtests side-by-side simultaneously.

Sounds like you guys are not actually technical and are just shooting from the hip.
 

ROLLTIDE1

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But apparently you forgot to run a few actual speedtests side-by-side simultaneously.

Sounds like you guys are not actually technical and are just shooting from the hip.

ran lots of speedtest and many of them would fail on the XS cause no data was flowing even with 4 bars
 
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yanks12025

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Anyone have a issue of the phone saying theres "no sim card found" and then lost all cellular connection.. I had it randomly happen this morning.. Ending up removing the sim card twice and cleaned it and started to work again.
 

vinegarshots

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Did you actually read their LTE test parts 1 through 15? Or are you going to keep acting clueless?

Just to play devil's advocate, I'm not sure how relevant those tests are when there are units in the wild that seem to be operating normally. There have also been a couple reports of exchanging units fixing the problem. So who knows...
 
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GfPQqmcRKUvP

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But apparently you forgot to run a few actual speedtests side-by-side simultaneously.

Sounds like you guys are not actually technical and are just shooting from the hip.

What is your problem? This is a real issue and it doesn’t matter if you believe it or not. My XS is, by far, my slowest modern device on every WiFi network I’ve tried it on. I have an 8+ (my old phone I haven’t traded in yet) and a 10.5” iPad Pro - both have noticeably better WiFi performance than my XS.

I have no reason to make this up and neither do most of the people experiencing the issue. I’m also not going to spend my time taking videos of the issue to satisfy you since that’s a waste of time and you’d probably just nitpick the result anyway. Still don’t know what you’re getting out of this misplaced cynicism besides the attention you seem to crave.
 
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