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Is there the equivalent of 3D Touch on the new Samsung Galaxy S8?
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Long press can't do the multitasking menu like 3DT can by pressing on the side of the screen.
Should be possible since overlay/popup window is supported by Android. I have seen popup which can even contains widgets.
Should be possible, is not the same as having a fully functional 3dt environment integrated into most of the o/s, with peek and pop supported by the mail app making email workflows much more streamlined. All that relies on long press, which in and of itself is not as efficient as 3dt.
It just the implementation. I remember Samsung implemented the finger/pen hover over and it pops up the summary. In certain circumstances it maybe easier because there is no ambiguity unlike 3dt where the user need to make conscious effort to distinguish a normal tap or harder press.
Are there any other really useful use cases than those that were mentioned with 3dt?
Well that feature is gone. The ambiguity comes in that you have to remember to "hover" your finger over the display for those that have those phones still supporting that. Unlike 3dt where there is no ambiguity.
The entirety of 3dt is extremely useful, quick and convenient. Just like other technologies that take a release to catch up the 3rd party apps are now providing support for 3dt.
There is a little ambiguity for some people in terms of how much pressure is too much. And that's not even getting into how long press is easier for people with certain hand issues to use, since that's mostly irrelevant to this discussion.
Wouldn't there be that same ambiguity with long press, how much to press? Long press by any means isn't an intuitive behavior either. And for those with special needs due to hand conditions I can't even speculate about it since it seems to be highly dependent on the person and not one size fits all.
I was simply responding to your "there is no ambiguity" to when it comes to 3DT, though I'd argue there is way less with long press because long press is a mobile native thing. Even iOS does long press for some things and has for a long time.
What ambiguity. Long press has been supported on all apps for years. I still find it's implementation superior in a couple of apps. On Android I can long press a photo and delete it. On iOS the select feature feels quite unintuitive. And what's really so great about peek and pop. You can't read either the full mail or the web page and you have to keep maintaining pressure on the screen while reading it.
Peek works great because I don't always want to load the entire app and have to breadcrumb back to get to where I started.
Personally if I am in the mail app I find that it's actually faster to open and read the mail then the time it takes to deep press and keep maintaining pressure on the screen. Both involve the same efforts. If you use peek and pop you can only read part of the text whilst grappling with maintaining the pressure whilst actually tapping, reading and going back take the same amount of time and my thumb isn't blocking the view either. Let's not forget there is an animation which occurs when you do peek and pop and that also takes some time
Ambiguity was already discussed in a prior thread about android.
I'm not telling you to like 3dt, I'm only relaying facts, that while you're long pressing for one email, I've already decided on what to do with 5 emails. Long press feels so antiquated compared to 3dt. If you want to expand the email to the full screen a little more pressure, it's called peek and pop for a reason. You can almost instantly move the email to the top of the screen and it stays and quickly then press and action on the bottom of the screen. It's called efficiency.
And as for maintaining pressure, windows users should be used to dragging with the left mouse button pressed; i.e. maintaining pressure on the mouse whilst doing something.
Long press feels unnatural after 3dt. 3dt is a great time-saver. As far as photos on IOS I dont have to hit the trash button to delete a photo, don't know why either long press is needed. But that's android I suppose.
Exactly, and I wouldn't say a little ambiguity but a fair amount of it. Just seems to me I'm either long pressing, or long pressing just a hair longer. What bothers me is I have to pause what I'm doing and think about how much pressure I will apply. With a single long press there is no thought, I just press until the menu pops up. 3dt just seems to interrupt my train of thought and flow too much to be worthwhile, especially when what it shows is really not that functional and inferior to just going to that screen.
I guess I just don't get what the difference is functionally. Apple could have just implemented the 3dt functions into long press itself, why have both? With how little information you get in the 3dt screen it just seems primitive and antiquated, by the time I 3dt incoming email I can already have done multiple things by either just quickly going through them, using swipe functions, or other methods of interaction that apps have. I think some may find it useful because it's covering up how poor Apple's core apps are, such as their email app. Look at an email app such as Bluemail, that has so much more functionality that it doesn't need 3dt to supposedly add function.
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3dt is not only for mail, it's all over the place and personally I love it. I don't have a problem with pressure or long press or anything else. But I know ymmv about these things.
The main issue with 3DT is that you have to think about it to use it unlike long press which makes it inferior and very unApplelike. When I get a notification I always open the app and get done with it and when I tried to I integrate 3DT it actually slowed me down.
Also I have no idea why they call it "3D". Real 3DT was done by Microsoft on a cancelled Windows phone codenamed "McLaren" where you didn't have to touch the screen to interact with the phone
Yeah it's just personal preference. I always espouse the importance of choice, and at least the choice is there for you to use 3dt if you like it.
Long press is natural for you, not natural for me. So your position if it's not natural it's not apple like? I guess that goes for long press as well across android and iOS.
And not touching the screen is less than intuitive; although tvs have the ability to use their camera to control the tv.
At any rate ymmv.
If long press isn't natural for your, you must have had a real hard time using any phone until 3DT came out.
Long press was never a part of blackberry. In general it's a confusing notion, one of the things that I couldn't get when I switched to iOS.
Wow. Wasn't aware you were a BB use before the iPhone came out. Also wasn't aware long press wasn't a thing on them.
Not to mention with all the talk of productivity that's going on here, according to i7guy , it would be impossible to work on an iPad Mini or Pro as they only support long press
BB didn't have the same type of screens at the time of the iPhone and those keyboards were awesome.
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However to the hyperbole of radon87000 3dt, imo is more efficient that long press to accomplish the seemingly same task, which you really can't because if the pressure sensitivity of 3dt. This 3dt accomplishes more but certainly you can use a computer without it. Macs don't have a right and left button, drives windows users up the wall.