Here is a 100% crop of 48MP ProRAW naive application comparison of the 14 Pro and 15 Pro. This is why I switched back to the 14 Pro:
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And at €5.99 really affordable.Indeed, underrated app. Simple, intuitive and proficient.
Which of the ProCam app did you used, as there are several with the same name?16 Pro Raw photo from Pro Cam application
This is the one we useWhich of the ProCam app did you used, as there are several with the same name?
Have been working on some camera comparisons outside of knowing about this thread. While I find the camera system to be great overall, I continue to find the RAW images from the iPhone to be anything but. Like the OP stated, they are over-processed to the point that it absolutely defeats the purpose of taking them from the native camera.
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Full Image (resized and converted to JPG for MR) from the 16 Pro using Halide RAW capture.
in all images the focal point was the grove of trees in the background (Left center of image by the grey house)
Deep Crop comparison between camera apps, and other camera sources.
I share my observations as viewed on an iPad Pro 11" OLED screen. All images were taken in RAW modes, but all other settings set to Auto. I 100% know I can get more detail out of all devices going manual, but I am playing a bit of a timing game here.
- Assume you have enough time to react knowing you want the best photo possible (switch to RAW for more megapixels)
- Assume the shot you need is time sensitive, so diving deeper into exposure, ISO, etc isn't possible.
I feel that is a common situation, as it is EXACTLY what happens to me when wanting to quickly grab some street photography images.
Outside of crop and conversion to JPG, photos have no other processing done to them.
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Pro RAW crop from 16 Pro Camera App
Observations
- Text looks good and is easy to read all but bottom most sign
- Color temperature is reasonable, slightly warm
- leaf detail is least of 16 pro camera tests
- most apparent noise reduction that can't be undone
- image is the most hazy of 16 pro shots
- AI did not detect the arborvitae in the foreground
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16 Pro RAW Photo from Halide Application
- Good text quality, can read all but 84 on the transformer well, or the bottom sign-
- better leaf detail than apple app
- more noise in images but more detail to work with in post
- overall image is slightly less hazy than the native camera app
- AI did not detect the arborvitae in the foreground
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16 Pro Raw photo from Pro Cam application (Taken slightly later due to original attempt at 12 Megapixel
- Same auto ISO as the other 2 shots (64) however most overall noise
- Did the worst in text detail
- BEST detail for the arborvitae in foreground. AI offered to identify the plant in iPadOS
- it's close but for iPhone 16 Pro, best color temperature.
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Pixel 8 Pro from the 50 Megapixel main sensor, and taken in RAW
Despite selecting RAW, it appears that Google is Google, and does some processing, though I will pass my observations along since most of us believe that Apple too is doing image processing in the sense of removing noise.
- Colors are a bit more saturated on the warmer side
- Best text detail. Only camera that can "kinda" make out the bottom "no on street parking" sign.
- best detail on the Arborvitae (AI also picked up the image and wanted to identify tree)
Still, the processing here limits what can be done in post. Like on the iPhone, 3rd party camera apps produce a more true RAW image.
For Random Comparison (Some others)
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Photo from Sony ZV-1 compact camera. originally Taken in RAW (20 Megapixel 1' sensor)
- Detail is better than expected considering Megapixel count
- Text detail is good but can't read bottom sign. #34 on transformer hard to read
- foreground grass detail is decent
- overall neutral color temperature, was honestly the most true to life
- AI identified the Arborvitae
This camera is better suited for full manual as it has physical controls. It was actually (by Sony) mostly intended for video work.
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13 Pro, originally taken in RAW (12 Megapixel camera)
- Did better than expected!
- Text quality is only slightly behind the 16 Pro with Halide
- AI identified the Arborvitae
- leaf and gras detail is good
- I like this image better than the default camera app can do on the 16 pro.
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Xs Max photo taken from Halide in RAW
- Clearly the worst image here
- Text detail is good for top 2 signs
- grass detail is decent
Yes, but are you sure 840quadra was using it too?This is the one we use
Most likely. I’m the one who first mentioned this app to several members and it got shared a lot. Now if you are concerned with ProRAW quality, this is the app. If you want to shoot regular raw, then use either the pro camera by Moment or ProCamera. Halide is very good alsoYes, but are you sure 840quadra was using it too?
Same issue here, pixelation, in the first photo....Stock 48 vs ProCam 48
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It is clear that ProCam somehow manages to retain a little more detail by doing less noise reduction (text is a bit sharper). Also the dark blue color of the bottle is more accurate on ProCam.
I wouldn't say it is night and day difference in practice though.
Lately the difference between generations usually comes down to just it. Especially for 14/15/16 series.I wouldn't say it is night and day difference in practice though.
Thats true, however, this year, ProRaw Max is not just a little worse its just unusable. I can accept that on the first beta of 18.0. Not after an full release. I dont understand either why apple vainglorious themselves with this product with camera quality being exceptional, when the results are what you all can see. It is not ethical neither moral fair.Lately the difference between generations usually comes down to just it. Especially for 14/15/16 series.
Obviously the hardware is capable of producing a better image.
Don’t get me started on new 48mp ultra wide which is bottlenecked by poor bandwidth (they use same connection as for last year 12mp). I guess they’ll just up bandwidth next year and actually use Sony hardware to full advantage.
14PM series deliver superb ProRaw results. Thats why you don’t notice any significant difference.I have now compared 48MP ProRAW from the 14 Pro with the native Camera app and with ProCam and so far I have hardly noticed any difference, both are almost equally good. With the 48MP ProRAW ProCam photos, the conversion to 48MP HEIC also works instead of 12MP as with 48MP ProRAW photos taken with the native app after iOS 18.
not the best app as im aware too much denoise.
Are you recommending this app over the other https://www.procamera-app.com/en/ now?It has zero denoise (Regular RAW).
For ProRAW I recommend using ProCam: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/procam-capture-proraw-photos/id1562150140
Are you recommending this app over the other https://www.procamera-app.com/en/ now?