I can clearly see it on my Mini 6 (though it doesn't bother me) but not in the least on my M4 13".
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iPad mini Jelly Scrolling not fixed
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I can clearly see it on my Mini 6 (though it doesn't bother me) but not in the least on my M4 13".
Yes, but the degree of jelliness is much less than what is observed on the mini 6.
Had Apple maintained the same display orientation on the mini 6, the jelly effect will be even less noticeable than the mini 5, because the mini 6 display is wider than the mini 5 in landscape orientation.
And given how many people are saying they cannot notice the jelly effect in the mini 6 portrait, they would have not noticed it at all in the mini 5 landscape either.
Just got mine.
Jelly roll is still there, in portrait orientation, even when not scrolling fast to test it. No issues with landscape orientation.
No longer have the iPad mini 6 so I can't compare.
When it comes to tablet displays, it's either noticeable or not. On this, yes it is noticeable.
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Regarding people talking about jelly scroll in other iPads. Yes it's also present, but they are not as noticeable as the iPad mini, which is why it's an issue here and not with other iPads.
Jelly roll is still there, in portrait orientation, even when not scrolling fast to test it. No issues with landscape orientation.
No longer have the iPad mini 6 so I can't compare.
When it comes to tablet displays, it's either noticeable or not. On this, yes it is noticeable.
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Regarding people talking about jelly scroll in other iPads. Yes it's also present, but they are not as noticeable as the iPad mini, which is why it's an issue here and not with other iPads.
Although I'm keeping the 7, I do think the level of jelly scroll I see in it is disappointing for an Apple product. It just looks cartoonish. To say that many or most panels have jelly scroll is a true but irrelevant fact. What other phone or tablet - Apple or otherwise - looks even a little like a funhouse mirror in real world use? First world problems, not a big deal, all true but the counter is: is it behavior consistent with Apple's brand promise? Can anyone argue that it is? Didn't Hairforce One tell Joanna Stern recently that Apple doesn't want to ship product that's not right (excusing the AI delays)? Minis before 6 did not have this problem. "This problem" being commonly objectionable jelly scroll. Not "non-zero screen tearing in any orientation". No one is seriously arguing that every other device is perfect. The argument is that Mini 6 and the new Mini 7 display is visibly, easily demonstrably flawed in a real-world use way (not those test pages with bars only that wiggle back and forth) that I've not heard said of any similar device. Even if Steve would have shipped it, he would have been embarrassed.
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Fair enough. I would say that it's definitely more noticeable on the mini vs. pretty much any other device I use. On other devices I have to actively look for it, on the mini 7 it just catches my eye from time to time. I can't pinpoint why that is though. Is it because the panel is actually super slow compared to even the base iPad? Or is it because of the display size, especially the very short portrait axis? Maybe a combination of both?
I mostly use the iPad in landscape, but for animations that scroll side-to-side it's obviously still noticeable. Where I notice it the most is when animations have a "bounce" effect at the end, for example when swiping between applications. It's so obvious there that it almost looks like it's on purpose, which it isn't of course. To be fair, when it's the most noticeable it also has the least impact because the motion blur is enough that you can't really read anything anyway (which of course could also be improved with a faster screen and OLED).
Having used it for a day now I think I love the form factor enough to live with it, but I hope a better screen is somewhere on the short to medium term timeline for the iPad mini.
My hope is that once the iPhone 17 series goes full 120 Hz, that it then gets to the iPad Air and after that the next mini could have it as well (at least the 120 Hz, whether the cheaper iPads get OLED who knows). So 2026-2027. Unless Apple neglects the mini even more by then.
Lol I’ve already seen that in endless videos. Although to be fair the 60hz thing is bad in 2024 For the price it costs.
All valid complaints, i would say
I can see this on all apple devices that I use:
MacBook Air M1 > When scrolling from left to right between desktops.
iPad Pro M1 > When scrolling in portrait.
iPhone 15 Pro > When scrolling in landscape.
And all devices before that.
It’s not new, but it’s easier to see on some devices, such as apparently the iPad mini 6. I always found it strange, but not very annoying. I would prefer a screen without it.
MacBook Air M1 > When scrolling from left to right between desktops.
iPad Pro M1 > When scrolling in portrait.
iPhone 15 Pro > When scrolling in landscape.
And all devices before that.
It’s not new, but it’s easier to see on some devices, such as apparently the iPad mini 6. I always found it strange, but not very annoying. I would prefer a screen without it.
Im as OCD as you can get (meaning i am medically diganosed with OCD and i am in treatment for it but i have it bad) and trust me when i tell you this...on the 6th gen iPad mini...i noticed the jelly scroll....ALOT! I tought myself to learn to live with it, but it did piss me off that a product at this price point from apple had this issue in this day and age, espically since i had the previous mini's in the past and never once noticed that on ANY of them.
On the 7th gen, i dont really notice it. Sure if you REALLY REALLY REALLY look for it, you can maybe kinda sorta see it ever so slightly but to me,(and trust me my OCD is bad, it notices things like this regardless if i want it to or not) its so slight that it really is one of these things where i am genuinely wondering if i am actually seeing it or not.
EVEN if it is actually there its so slight thats its not worth getting bent out of shape over it. Its to me vasty superior then the 6th in every way i feel.
Now look...could they have put in a OLED 120HZ screen in the thing, faceID and an M processor...maybe reduced the bezels and moved the camera? SURE...of course they could have, and it would have started at just under the price of the pro (899 base model with 256 gigs for a mini would be fine for me)
THEY DIDEN'T. This is every bit a spec bump to get Apple Intelligences running on the thing and sell the Apple Pencil pro.
Its a stop gap. Pure and simple. A in between device from the Redesigned 6 to what ever they do with the Next Mini if there is even a next mini.
For all i know they could kill the line entirely and just make the eventual Iphone fold that will serve as the mini when opened (and i'd love that).
I like the device as it is. Im very excited to try out Apple Intellegence on it. I do kinda want to rebuy later on another 11 inch M4 Pro down the road to use as a laptop hybrid device...but i can live with just the mini for now and the jelly scrolling to my eyes is fixed and to me worth buying.
I think im going to keep this one! (Which is saying alot because i am well known for returning ipads in my quest to find "The Perfect" Ipad)
On the 7th gen, i dont really notice it. Sure if you REALLY REALLY REALLY look for it, you can maybe kinda sorta see it ever so slightly but to me,(and trust me my OCD is bad, it notices things like this regardless if i want it to or not) its so slight that it really is one of these things where i am genuinely wondering if i am actually seeing it or not.
EVEN if it is actually there its so slight thats its not worth getting bent out of shape over it. Its to me vasty superior then the 6th in every way i feel.
Now look...could they have put in a OLED 120HZ screen in the thing, faceID and an M processor...maybe reduced the bezels and moved the camera? SURE...of course they could have, and it would have started at just under the price of the pro (899 base model with 256 gigs for a mini would be fine for me)
THEY DIDEN'T. This is every bit a spec bump to get Apple Intelligences running on the thing and sell the Apple Pencil pro.
Its a stop gap. Pure and simple. A in between device from the Redesigned 6 to what ever they do with the Next Mini if there is even a next mini.
For all i know they could kill the line entirely and just make the eventual Iphone fold that will serve as the mini when opened (and i'd love that).
I like the device as it is. Im very excited to try out Apple Intellegence on it. I do kinda want to rebuy later on another 11 inch M4 Pro down the road to use as a laptop hybrid device...but i can live with just the mini for now and the jelly scrolling to my eyes is fixed and to me worth buying.
I think im going to keep this one! (Which is saying alot because i am well known for returning ipads in my quest to find "The Perfect" Ipad)
Been playing with my Mini since yesterday. I’m very used to promotion, use a 13” iPP and 16PM, and the jelly scrolling was terrible on the mini 6. Very minimal on the 7, much happier. It’s my secondary iPad, mainly for reading and scrolling where it would be super apparent, so very satisfied overall.
I like how he used moral posturing as justification. Ah yes, they want to responsibly roll out genmojis. That's why AI wasn't ready at launch at all with new hardware despite that being the big marketing push.
They warned us about this at WWDC. Did they though? I feel that they hyped up the vaporware.
..How about the most obvious explanation is the one that is true?
They missed the mark on deadlines, software has been an obvious dumpster fire for years and years now this is just another example of that, and we can speak in nebulous speak, or we can blame those that are most responsible overseeing the whole software division?
Of course he doesn't want to say anything that you wouldn't otherwise expect, in a non clown world his job would be on the line even with great charisma and Johnny Bravo hair.
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in the case of jelly scrolling, they tried to mitigate but did not completely eliminate it. seems obvious to people who have seen the display.
I hope it is a stop gap. The 7 is not enough of an improvement over the 6 for me to justify upgrading.
its been said in many reviews that the text on the Mini 6 was not sharp. Can tell the most when you zoom in on the text as far as you can. This is the best way to test screen sharpness.
I think this is more or less what I think as well, i feel it is worth upgrading from the 6 that I don’t like using to this.
Given that I stay with Apple that is, a foldable small tablet with 120 Hz OLED display sure is tempting in comparison to the Mini 7.
I expected the A18 vs A17 Pro since these devices only get a seemingly 2-3 year upgrade and the A17 Pro is still a year old. Still, the A17 Pro is a big step up, has 8GB of RAM, starts at 128GB storage, and supports the new Apple Pencil Pro. Strongly considering picking one up.
Isn’t though pro series 17 chip better than gimped 18? I mean you have usb 2.0 controller and would have useless usb c hole. I think they differ in multicore and gpu performance as well.
The only thing a18 is faster in single core.
Been using the 7 since last night, currently typing on it. The 6 I found unusable, it was like riding a tilt-a-whirl every time I moved the screen. The 5 remains perfect in portrait mode, the way I use it most often.
The 7 is right in between, trending slightly towards the 5. It’s easily noticeable and increases with speed. That said, I have had stretches of forgetting about it because it’s no longer a tilt-a-whirl, so I will keep using it and see which direction things break.
The speed increase over the 5 is great, obviously. It would be difficult to try and nurse that along for another 2-3 years. So, I’m kind of stuck - accept the new minimized jelly, move to a larger size (yuck), or move away from Apple (unknown).
The 7 is right in between, trending slightly towards the 5. It’s easily noticeable and increases with speed. That said, I have had stretches of forgetting about it because it’s no longer a tilt-a-whirl, so I will keep using it and see which direction things break.
The speed increase over the 5 is great, obviously. It would be difficult to try and nurse that along for another 2-3 years. So, I’m kind of stuck - accept the new minimized jelly, move to a larger size (yuck), or move away from Apple (unknown).
Keep us posted
I'm staying on my 5, but will certainly give a 7 a look at an Apple Store sometime in the weeks ahead
Samsung also has this issue in some of their tablet. I'm sure they have the tech to fix it but they need to change the internal design like someone mentioned it here which will cost some more R&D so they do the software magic to minimize it. It's like a drug that makes the illness more bearable instead of healing it.
Interesting. I’ve always noticed this on my iPad mini 6. Is it the same with other iPad mini 6 models, and also, does the 7 fix this?
A great video from Luke
Don’t miss the part at about 8:20 about how broken iPad sales continue to be
Don’t miss the part at about 8:20 about how broken iPad sales continue to be
For many people who are so angry, it's not about the product itself, they just like to complain. And I have the impression that it wouldn't be the right device for most of them anyway.
If you look at the device class, the iPad mini has always been designed to be a portable and handy device for simpler tasks that CAN also take on larger tasks if necessary.
Audio and video entertainment, browsing, taking notes, reading and editing texts, communicating via text and video, games (including CoD), managing photos and documents, including in cloud storage, and many other tasks and special use cases are no problem. I could hold it comfortably with three fingers on the couch and it was very convenient for me during my studies. Even the disadvantages (Touch ID often didn't recognise me, front camera on the short side, a little lack of performance in the last year, and little things) didn't change anything.
About jelly scrolling: I noticed it when I looked for it after seeing it online. For me, it was a blemish that was only really visible when I put my mind to it. It was never visible to me during use, but perhaps it was less noticeable on my device compared to others.
I sold it a few days before the update because my needs and use cases have changed in recent months and for the foreseeable future. Maybe this will help someone with their purchase decision. If you just want to judge from the outside, you're having a different discussion anyway.
If you look at the device class, the iPad mini has always been designed to be a portable and handy device for simpler tasks that CAN also take on larger tasks if necessary.
Audio and video entertainment, browsing, taking notes, reading and editing texts, communicating via text and video, games (including CoD), managing photos and documents, including in cloud storage, and many other tasks and special use cases are no problem. I could hold it comfortably with three fingers on the couch and it was very convenient for me during my studies. Even the disadvantages (Touch ID often didn't recognise me, front camera on the short side, a little lack of performance in the last year, and little things) didn't change anything.
About jelly scrolling: I noticed it when I looked for it after seeing it online. For me, it was a blemish that was only really visible when I put my mind to it. It was never visible to me during use, but perhaps it was less noticeable on my device compared to others.
I sold it a few days before the update because my needs and use cases have changed in recent months and for the foreseeable future. Maybe this will help someone with their purchase decision. If you just want to judge from the outside, you're having a different discussion anyway.
I've not noticed the jelly scrolling on my 6 so if it's still there it won't bother me. However for those who are affected by it, it's a shame it wasn't fixed.