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zhenya

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Terrific. Thanks for posting this graph again.

If you think that all iphone 7 screens are perfect, and any yellowing is intentional, and that when I put my yellow phone next to a display 7 and the display 7 had a much cooler screen temp, then the display model must be defective , plus my 6S which looked like the display 7 must also have been defective - than good on ya.

I cant spoon feed this to you any more. you either go look at the pics with your own eyes, compare your phone to display models yourself, or whatever else you want to do to get informed, or you move on believing this nonsense that its just correct temps and people are overreacting. Two temperature screened versions of the phones exist. Its been proven again and again, with pics all over. Go look at it. Or dont. But dont try to convince the world and yourself that theres only one screen out there.

Let me post this example - AGAIN - of a good temp iphone 7 screen:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/yellow-gate.1996889/page-7#post-23491271

Pictures mean NOTHING in determining relative white points. Show us a single instance of a calibrated test showing a recent iPhone at less than 6500k measured. What you want is the occasional overly blue screen. Fine. But stop insisting the rest of the screens are defective. You have zero data to back that point of view up while ample data has been provided demonstrating otherwise.
 
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kre62

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Pictures mean NOTHING in determining relative white points. Show us a single instance of a calibrated test showing a recent iPhone at less than 6500k measured. What you want is the occasional overly blue screen. Fine. But stop insisting the rest of the screens are defective. You have zero data to back that point of view up while ample data has been provided demonstrating otherwise.


Cool bro, enjoy your screen.


For everyone else, heres another great example of someone getting the good screen after an initial bad one! Like always, brightness issue fixed.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/my-screen-is-slightly-yellow.1998713/#post-23522587
 
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aston177

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Dec 29, 2014
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I totally get what you're trying to say. I'm a big Apple fan and I buy every new iPhone, but this year, I'm holding back.

The 7 is pretty much a water resistant 6s with a slightly faster processor. In most speed tests I've watched on YouTube, the 6s is FASTER than the 7! WTF! Maybe it's because it's switching from the low power cores to the high power ones, but cmon! It has to be faster than the phone it's replacing. It's got the SAME design. I mean cmon! 3 years is long enough. Move on! Like the guy said, marginally improved camera. Yeah the whole world goes crazy when they see a new color, but I know it's the same damn phone. The iPhone 7 not NEW! Not at all. It's the same phone with slightly better features to keep customers happy until the next one comes out.

The way I see it, Apple launched the 7 just to buy them some time to release the 10th anniversary phone. Now that's the phone to get. It'll be an all new phone.

If you guys have a 6, I guess upgrading to the 7 is a good idea, but if you have a 6s, there's really no point upgrading. Save the money. Buy the next iPhone. That will be a game changer.
 

cdmoore74

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I totally get what you're trying to say. I'm a big Apple fan and I buy every new iPhone, but this year, I'm holding back.

The 7 is pretty much a water resistant 6s with a slightly faster processor. In most speed tests I've watched on YouTube, the 6s is FASTER than the 7! WTF! Maybe it's because it's switching from the low power cores to the high power ones, but cmon! It has to be faster than the phone it's replacing. It's got the SAME design. I mean cmon! 3 years is long enough. Move on! Like the guy said, marginally improved camera. Yeah the whole world goes crazy when they see a new color, but I know it's the same damn phone. The iPhone 7 not NEW! Not at all. It's the same phone with slightly better features to keep customers happy until the next one comes out.

The way I see it, Apple launched the 7 just to buy them some time to release the 10th anniversary phone. Now that's the phone to get. It'll be an all new phone.

If you guys have a 6, I guess upgrading to the 7 is a good idea, but if you have a 6s, there's really no point upgrading. Save the money. Buy the next iPhone. That will be a game changer.

The only saving grace is if you're going from a regular sized 6S to a 7 Plus or you want to downgrade in size. My wife is no where near the upgrade freak I am but she was damn near begging me to swap out her gold 6S for a rose gold 7 Plus after trying it out in the Apple Store. Last year she wanted the Plus but she went with the smaller size due to Plus shortages.
But yes I agree, no point in upgrading a 6S Plus to a 7 Plus.
 

ProphetX

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RichardF

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Oct 27, 2006
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I may get another 7 when the good screens return, but you're kidding yourself if you think the screens shipping right now are in any way better than the 6S. These are the same low quality launch screens that ship every year. I've seen these screens a thousand times, on my 3GS, my 4S, my 5, my 5S, etc. My 6 and 6S were fine (though many got bad 6 screens, I got lucky that year I guess), but now we are back to bad launch screens. Sad.


The reason why I went through 5 iPhone 6. I can't stand the yellowish look.
Don't ever buy anything from the first few months of production. Some iPhone 7 Plus are making a hissing sound when pegging the processor too... ?
Who needs the hassle?


Personally, I don't mind the headphone jack being gone.
Love that it's water resistant. I can now clean it properly after getting home and washing my hands!

Can't believe the camera is not better though!
 
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adam044

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Great... I knew it was yellowish. Compared it to my 6+ and wow big difference. Now what?

Doubt I can walk into Apple and have them give me a replacement.
 

RichardF

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Great... I knew it was yellowish. Compared it to my 6+ and wow big difference. Now what?

Doubt I can walk into Apple and have them give me a replacement.


Yes you can. I did just that for the 6 and during this one instance, went through two right in the store.

The yellowish look by the way also affects their laptops.
I can't stand it.
 
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adam044

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Yes you can. I did just that for the 6 and during this one instance, went through two right in the store.

The yellowish look by the way also affects their laptops.
I can't stand it.

I just assumed since no one can get one that they didn't have replacements on hand to give me a new phone the same day.

I made an appointment for today. See how it goes, can't live with this screen.
 

bitslap47

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Jul 9, 2007
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Honestly though guys... pictures of these screens as examples are useless. It's hardly a consistent or quality controlled method of reproducing the actual screen quality.

Also, most people are viewing these pics on un-calibrated desktop monitors, in night shift mode etc.
 

Math889

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Jan 7, 2016
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I totally get what you're trying to say. I'm a big Apple fan and I buy every new iPhone, but this year, I'm holding back.

The 7 is pretty much a water resistant 6s with a slightly faster processor. In most speed tests I've watched on YouTube, the 6s is FASTER than the 7! WTF! Maybe it's because it's switching from the low power cores to the high power ones, but cmon! It has to be faster than the phone it's replacing. It's got the SAME design. I mean cmon! 3 years is long enough. Move on! Like the guy said, marginally improved camera. Yeah the whole world goes crazy when they see a new color, but I know it's the same damn phone. The iPhone 7 not NEW! Not at all. It's the same phone with slightly better features to keep customers happy until the next one comes out.

The way I see it, Apple launched the 7 just to buy them some time to release the 10th anniversary phone. Now that's the phone to get. It'll be an all new phone.

If you guys have a 6, I guess upgrading to the 7 is a good idea, but if you have a 6s, there's really no point upgrading. Save the money. Buy the next iPhone. That will be a game changer.
Even if you have the 6 is not worth to upgrade.
 

adam044

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Jan 24, 2012
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Even if you have the 6 is not worth to upgrade.
I agree. I had the 6+ and I like it better. 6 feels better in the hand, thinner, lighter better balanced I think.

I'd return the 7 but my 6 has a dent in the bottom corner from when I dropped it once which causes the screen pop out slightly. It also has vertical lines on half the screen, they are light but still annoying so that's really why I'm keeping the 7.

Hate the home "button" as well.
 
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akash.nu

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May 26, 2016
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I agree. I had the 6+ and I like it better. 6 feels better in the hand, thinner, lighter better balanced I think.

I'd return the 7 but my 6 has a dent in the bottom corner from when I dropped it once which causes the screen pop out slightly. It also has vertical lines on half the screen, they are light but still annoying so that's really why I'm keeping the 7.

Hate the home "button" as well.
Yep my 6 was in pristine condition until last week when it slipped out of my pocket. Regretting it ever since. Although everything else is perfect. I've taken some awesome pictures with it.
 

AppleRobert

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Nov 12, 2012
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I think there are a decent number of folks not impressed and will do a return or flat out not buy it.

We know upgrades are incremental, no surprise there. But now there are some addendums put forth about what was advertised as being better over the previous iPhones.

Case in point, how about 25% brighter? Well now with have an asterisk for that. How about speed/performance? Nope, only in certainly instances and just maybe as most will not notice. Battery life? Probably not much if any. Camera? Well maybe for some, average Joe/Jane just taking snaps will not notice.

Shall I continue? Don't think I need to.
 
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RyCan3

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Jun 13, 2010
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Boy there are going to be a lot of mad people on here next year if they release a 7S version instead of a redesigned 8.
 
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akash.nu

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I think people should just stop looking at the leaks and all the rumours. Make the buying decision based on whatever is available at that point.

I don't know what's coming out next year but over my 6 I still don't see the 7 being a super upgrade. Guess I've just crossed that age when I had to have the latest.
 

akash.nu

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May 26, 2016
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That's pushing it! The 6S slays the i6 but the i7 doesn't really noticeably improve upon the 6S. The i7 is still a massive performance upgrade over the i6.
*Unless you just make calls and browse Facebook.
Well, I do everything else on my 6 other than playing high end games. Have my Xbox for that. Haven't noticed any slowdown at all. I don't know how fast can 7 be on a day to day usage really. Can you given me a usecase?
 

thadoggfather

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Oct 1, 2007
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That's pushing it! The 6S slays the i6 but the i7 doesn't really noticeably improve upon the 6S. The i7 is still a massive performance upgrade over the i6.
*Unless you just make calls and browse Facebook.

Did you get a 7/7+ this go round?
 

zhenya

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Jan 6, 2005
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Remember it not the "S" model until next year! No performance upgrade until 2017!

The 7 is considerably faster than the 6s but I believe we have reached the point where the gains being made are not typically noticed in non-intensive scenarios any longer. The same thing happened in the PC world about 5 years ago. Once fast SSD's became commonplace and everyone had a decent Core i5 there became increasingly less reason to upgrade due to performance benefits. The same thing is beginning to happen in mobile chipsets. Like with PC's they are now starting to focus (even more) on power consumption.
 

KPOM

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Oct 23, 2010
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The 7 is considerably faster than the 6s but I believe we have reached the point where the gains being made are not typically noticed in non-intensive scenarios any longer. The same thing happened in the PC world about 5 years ago. Once fast SSD's became commonplace and everyone had a decent Core i5 there became increasingly less reason to upgrade due to performance benefits. The same thing is beginning to happen in mobile chipsets. Like with PC's they are now starting to focus (even more) on power consumption.

Agreed. AnandTech just posted their review of the HTC 10 and the iPhone 6S still is at the top of the performance charts in most of the tests (which include the Galaxy S7). I wonder what we'll see in their tests of the iPhone 7. For the first time Apple is incorporating a low power core. While GeekBench ignores it, some of the other benchmarks might not.
 
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