No it's clear that you're making things up as you go along. I'm just responding to what you're putting out there for discussion, but then you tap-dance around it without answering the question.
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No it's clear that you're making things up as you go along. I'm just responding to what you're putting out there for discussion, but then you tap-dance around it without answering the question.
Whooooooo cares. Go back to bed, you sound like a teenager
Like I said, i emailed Tim on the yellow screen 5s, his team got back to me, got a new phone. Question answered. Go do some research on the troves of yellow screen phones from the years.
I think it's hilarious when people post that they have "well-documented proof" and that they've had "multiple email exchanges with Tim Cook on this very subject" and the variety of other stories that surface in this forum for about two weeks every year. Luckily, the outrageous claims will die off soon.
I would hope the 7 does have a warmer screen and was glad to see reviewers mentioning this, thing is if it's closer to 6500K this is actually a good thing, the 6s screens were actually way too cold which was easily noticeable if you ever had to switch from a calibrated monitor or TV to the 6s as it was really blue, it might just be you are used to a inaccurate screen and maybe you even prefer that but the 6s screen wasn't accurate, sadly companies have been using colder and colder screens recently and people seem to think warmer screens are always bad and colder ones are good. usually out of the factory TV's, monitors and phones are way too cold and when most people I know see one calibrated correctly they think its too warm because they aren't used to it.
also screens of course will vary phone to phone and of course people will get ones that are too warm, my point though is lots of people seem to be mentioning warmer screens with the 7 which might not be a bad thing if they are actually more accurate on average if that makes sense
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Excuse me - but the 6s seems warmer than 6500 Kelvin according to White point graph ? meaning that a cooler temperature than 6s should be better.
Youre nit picking what I said and blowing it up in your mind. I sid Ive emailed tim cook back and forth. Yes the back and forth was with his executive team. So I guess you got me there. But the tim cook thing is literally the least important evidence. Do a search on yellow screen 3gs, 4s, 5, 5s, 6 any model really and you'll see the same issue. It happens every year. If you like the yellow screens, then rock it brother no one stopping you.
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Keep in mind that depending on the panel they are measuring (launch yellow, cool later) the reading will be different.
With that in mind, arent higher numbers more bluish? So in this graph the 6S is more blue tinted than the 6. But many had blue tinted 6 phones, so they probably just measured a launch 6.
If your 7 is more blue tinted then congrats, you hit the lottery.
I've been here 8 years and I have to say... it's gotten better.
One of the few good things about Apple stagnating is that users were actually allowed to have discussions about them without it turning into fingerpointing and hurt feelings.
In your case, you make a valid argument for the 6S and I'm actually surprised to see so much opposition. This is one of Apples most minor iPhone update so if someone says last gen was good enough then it's hard to say they're "wrong".
Personally, my 7+ is "good enough" as a lease upgrade.
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No higher numbers are yellowish... and I dont know why the graph is colored in that way - mistake
Just wondering, couldn't you have found these things out without purchasing the phone?
You shouldve known all these before buying.
This is the same tiresome argument that went on and on following the 9.7" iPad Pro release - every iPad Air 2 owner came out of the woodwork to say it was a nothing release NOTHING more than a money grab by Apple AS IF iPad Aid 2 owners were Apple's only market - yep none of those iPad 2, 3, 4 or iPad Air users would have any interest ONLY iPad Air 2.
So a guy buys a 7 and says it ain't worth the upgrade from the 6s LIKE the 6s owners were Apple's only market. AND by the way there wasn't a single thing about the 7 that wasn't know prior to purchase ... NOTHING.
The problem is it's not an opinion it's just CHATTER.
Take the damned 7 back and get on with your life.
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Higher K colors are blue
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I keep expecting apple to solve the launch screen issues and keep getting disappointed. My 6S was perfect from day 1 so was hoping..but guess not.
Higher K colors are blue
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I keep expecting apple to solve the launch screen issues and keep getting disappointed. My 6S was perfect from day 1 so was hoping..but guess not.
When I compare color temperature with Adobe Lightroom - Blue is low and yellow high. I dont know the meaning of attached gif with Ba as Y and Alpha as X
Heres another article. Plenty more out there.
http://www.topbulb.com/color-temperature
Higher # is more blue.
But the iPhone 7 plus on paper is better on paper than the 6s plus in most of the ways a 6s plus is better than a 6... on paper
More blue or more yellow is not better or worse. For the sake of calibrating the display to DCI-P3, what matters is that the white displayed by the screen match a D65 white point. You may prefer a more blue-ish white point, and it is unfortunate that iOS does not provide a means of color calibrating the display manually or adjusting the white point. We really have no idea what your phones are displaying, and frankly, without a frame of reference it's almost entirely useless to discuss it. What you could do is color calibrate a computer monitor and compare your phone's white point to that, or get a hold of a colorimeter to accurately baseline your assertions about the display quality.
What is expected is that some displays will look different from others due to manufacturing variance and different vendors, and also that displays will change in their characteristics over time. It also appears that the iPhone 6S phones were often more blue in their white points than they should have been, which would skew your perception of what is correct if that was your baseline.
Yeah I hate to seem fanboyish but when you finish your list of reasons with "no headphone jack" it's hard to take you seriously.
woah okay, quite the reaction there, you gave your opinion and I gave my own one too and included what I thought was a reasonable explanation for it, seems you aren't going to even listen to anything that doesn't match your view and will instead go off on one judging by your replies to others, sounds to me like you bought the phone and you are looking for reasons to return it, honestly the 6s is a great phone and I don't think it's worth upgrading for most people if you already have the 6s, for anyone who owns the 6 or anything before that then they are buying a phone that is much faster, has a better camera and comes with some nifty other features.
also I don't have a iPhone contrary to your assumptions.
I dont agree. But keep in mind that my argument supports your theory. If the 7 is warmer than the 6s, which according to first graph is too warm, then the 7 is even more warm and farther from 6500 kelvin.
Good to get real user feedback although you really didn't need to buy an iPhone 7 to know about what you're issues are with the iPhone 7 especially the no headphone jack "feature".
Yes I understand calibration. Im saying there are certain screens that are physically inferior to others. These screens almost have a layer of yellow on them. They will never be as bright, clear, or with the best contrast as the other screens, regardless of calibration. These screens take up more battery, look worse, and are just inferior in all ways. I think this happens because of the bulk of the phones that need to be built for launch. They either runout of good screens, or cant make them fast enough and resort to inferior panels.
Regardless of the calibration, what I really want is the clarity, crispness, and contrast of the "good" screens. I tried to change the 7's calibration using the ios color profiles tool, but it looked artificial and reduced brightness.
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Doesnt really matter if you agree, its a fact that higher # = more blue.
Yellow screens would register as closer or below 6500K. They are incorrect screens.
If you like it, rock it. I havent seen a single person, when presented with the yellow screen vs a clear one, say they like the yellow better in real life.
There is no one reporting their iPhone 7 series has a 25% brighter display than the previous 6s. It may be about the same for some but no more. Most are reporting a more yellowish display, there are enough pics on threads already. If it should be more yellowish, so be it but it does not mean everyone likes it.
There haven't been past reports of iPhones whereby folks were taking them back trying to get a better display?
There haven't been past reports of iPhones whereby folks were taking them back trying to get a better display?
"yellow screens" lmao.
It's due to the wider color gamut. It's actually a good thing.
It's due to the wider color gamut. It's actually a good thing.