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spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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If you don't mind, could you take a screenshot of your screen-on time at the end of the day when you're about to go to bed? That kind of usage/battery life sounds amazing, by the way. No way my 5S could do all of that and even make it halfway through the day.

I'll try and remember, I get home at 9 and have an 19 month old waitin for me so I tend to forget about anything else at that time, maybe before I get into bed.

Currently here is where I'm at, not sure why it says 8 hours use, as I've had it unplugged since about 7am. I used it mostly to drive to work (80% screen, constant waze/gps for 2 hours, and 3 or 4 calls), and have only used it for 3 or 4 10 minute phone calls since I got to work. I'd estimate 2 hours screen/GPS time, and probably 1 1/2 to 2 hours talk time so far.
 

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kenknotts

macrumors 6502
Sep 23, 2013
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I'll try and remember, I get home at 9 and have an 19 month old waitin for me so I tend to forget about anything else at that time, maybe before I get into bed.

Currently here is where I'm at, not sure why it says 8 hours use, as I've had it unplugged since about 7am. I used it mostly the drive to work, and have only used it for 3 or 4 10 minute phone calls since then.


Says 10% use last 3 hours, meaning its barely being touched. Mine would say 12-13% when I wasnt using it much. Lets see the battery life when you are really using it. Like at least 20-25% usage. Any phone will last well when its mostly in standby and a few calls on it. Lets see some serious web browsing and multimedia use.
 

JC17

macrumors member
Oct 8, 2013
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Says 10% use last 3 hours, meaning its barely being touched. Mine would say 12-13% when I wasnt using it much. Lets see the battery life when you are really using it. Like at least 20-25% usage. Any phone will last well when its mostly in standby and a few calls on it. Lets see some serious web browsing and multimedia use.

Isn't that exactly what he said??
He unplugged it at 7am, he's driven to work and made 40 minutes of calls and its now 4pm going by the ss.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
Says 10% use last 3 hours, meaning its barely being touched. Mine would say 12-13% when I wasnt using it much. Lets see the battery life when you are really using it. Like at least 20-25% usage. Any phone will last well when its mostly in standby and a few calls on it. Lets see some serious web browsing and multimedia use.

Yep, you gotta read before you reply. I got to work about 9am and only made 3 or 4 phone calls since then, maybe 40ish minutes of talk time.

Hehe, I see your oddly weird vendetta against the G2's battery time has continued.
 

kenknotts

macrumors 6502
Sep 23, 2013
276
0
Isn't that exactly what he said??
He unplugged it at 7am, he's driven to work and made 40 minutes of calls and its now 4pm going by the ss.

No, he said he had GPS running on a 2 hour drive with the screen on which is not the case or else it would be showing up and that battery would be way lower than what it is. I had the G2.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
No, he said he had GPS running on a 2 hour drive with the screen on which is not the case or else it would be showing up and that battery would be way lower than what it is. I had the G2.

That's what my battery is every day at about the same time, depending on what I do. I run waze every day, I'm not running GPS navigation/directions, I simply have it open so I can benefit in the crowd sourcing. The majority of power I'd say would come from the screen., especially at 80%.

So what I said IS the case, and the battery is NOT way lower than it is. This thing has 23.5 freakin hours of cellular talk time according to Anandtech, the battery life is sick. You can cry and whine all you want, but the reviews and techs all disagree with you and your strange made up vendetta.
 

kenknotts

macrumors 6502
Sep 23, 2013
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nevermind

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That's what my battery is every day at about the same time, depending on what I do. I run waze every day, I'm not running GPS navigation/directions, I simply have it open so I can benefit in the crowd sourcing.

Ok, well thats very misleading from your original statement.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
nevermind

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Ok, well thats very misleading from your original statement.

Yep. that's right. Reviews are almost universally in agreement that battery life is amazing. 23.5 hours talk time, 13.1 hours video playback at 75% screen, etc etc. Benchmarks don't lie, forum users do.

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/16/lg-g2-review/

The day I pushed it the hardest, I easily cleared 13+ hours and still had 20% or so left. The rest of the days, with 4G LTE only and light-to-medium use, I almost always cruised through 15 hours with another 10+ to spare (according to the device). If you aren’t hammering on the device, you’ll have the opportunity to get through more than a full day’s use – I’m talking 24 hours. If you are putting in heavy work (gaming, lots of messaging, video watching, etc. with 3+ hours of screen-on time) you should still see 14-18 hours of battery life.


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Ok, well thats very misleading from your original statement.

Lol, grasping at straws eh? OK to clarify Waze is a crowdsourcing program which does constantly track you via GPS, so there is GPS/location use going on at all times. How that differs in battery use versus actually using navigation I don't know.
 

LSUtigers03

macrumors 68020
Apr 9, 2008
2,089
41
How is the performance of the phone? I'm not expecting it to be on the same level of a stock Android device but is it a relatively smooth experience?
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
How is the performance of the phone? I'm not expecting it to be on the same level of a stock Android device but is it a relatively smooth experience?

Runs great. There is occasional lag, about the same lag you see on any Android device and that's more an issue with Android itself IMO, but it's occasional and doesn't affect performance, it's just more annoying than anything else.
 

SR71

macrumors 68000
Jan 12, 2011
1,604
372
Boston, MA
nevermind

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Ok, well thats very misleading from your original statement.

Waze uses the same amount of power as Navigation does. It constantly polls for new data on other cars, accidents, etc. just as navigation would poll for directions (uses the cellular radio) and it refreshes the map with your position (GPS). And don't forget that his brightness is at 80% that whole time. This is all going on for two hours and in addition to that, he also made 40 minutes worth of phone calls. That's pretty good battery life in my book and I bet my 5S would be at 30-40% with that kind of usage. Looks like I'm probably gonna be getting a G2.
 

kenknotts

macrumors 6502
Sep 23, 2013
276
0
Waze uses the same amount of power as Navigation does. It constantly polls for new data on other cars, accidents, etc. just as navigation would poll for directions (uses the cellular radio) and it refreshes the map with your position (GPS). And don't forget that his brightness is at 80% that whole time. This is all going on for two hours and in addition to that, he also made 40 minutes worth of phone calls. That's pretty good battery life in my book and I bet my 5S would be at 30-40% with that kind of usage. Looks like I'm probably gonna be getting a G2.

Look at my experience with the G2 earlier in this thread. My 5s outlasted the G2 on wifi and some LTE. Even in standby the 5s was superior draining only about 1-2% per hour as opposed to the G2s 5-6% You have to take tech review sites with a grain of salt because things like reception in your area and what you do with your device will vary.
 

gotluck

macrumors 603
Dec 8, 2011
5,717
1,260
East Central Florida
Look at my experience with the G2 earlier in this thread. My 5s outlasted the G2 on wifi and some LTE. Even in standby the 5s was superior draining only about 1-2% per hour as opposed to the G2s 5-6% You have to take tech review sites with a grain of salt because things like reception in your area and what you do with your device will vary.

Did you disable carrier IQ?
 

scott craft

macrumors 6502a
Feb 10, 2011
697
143
Louisiana
Look at my experience with the G2 earlier in this thread. My 5s outlasted the G2 on wifi and some LTE. Even in standby the 5s was superior draining only about 1-2% per hour as opposed to the G2s 5-6% You have to take tech review sites with a grain of salt because things like reception in your area and what you do with your device will vary.

Your experience with the G2 battery life isn't the normal experience I read about on other forums. Battery life is one thing most posters rave about on the G2.
 

bova80

macrumors 6502a
Jul 8, 2008
581
33
Pittsburgh, PA
Says 10% use last 3 hours, meaning its barely being touched. Mine would say 12-13% when I wasnt using it much. Lets see the battery life when you are really using it. Like at least 20-25% usage. Any phone will last well when its mostly in standby and a few calls on it. Lets see some serious web browsing and multimedia use.

Why do you think usage means how much it is used? That is the percent of battery used, not how much he used it. Obviously it means his battery isn't draining quickly for what he is doing which is good. You just want to keep putting the phone down because you had a bad experience.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
Look at my experience with the G2 earlier in this thread. My 5s outlasted the G2 on wifi and some LTE. Even in standby the 5s was superior draining only about 1-2% per hour as opposed to the G2s 5-6% You have to take tech review sites with a grain of salt because things like reception in your area and what you do with your device will vary.

Hmm, believe one disgruntled guy on a forum who isn't sure if he had carrier IQ disabled or had some other issue or bug, or believe dozens of review sites, some very highly regarded in the tech industry like Anandtech. Hmm, tough choice. :rolleyes:
 

SR71

macrumors 68000
Jan 12, 2011
1,604
372
Boston, MA
Look at my experience with the G2 earlier in this thread. My 5s outlasted the G2 on wifi and some LTE. Even in standby the 5s was superior draining only about 1-2% per hour as opposed to the G2s 5-6% You have to take tech review sites with a grain of salt because things like reception in your area and what you do with your device will vary.

I'm not even looking at just tech review sites, I'm looking at users on XDA who have posted about their battery life (in a 26 page long thread, no less) and nearly every single poster in that thread is seeing amazing battery life with the G2, with most of them seeing 6+ hours of screen on time with a good amount of standby... A few users even nearly got 8 hours of screen-on time with one user getting as high as 7 hours and 53 minutes of screen- on time. That is INSANE. When I had my S4 (which lasted around the same as my 5S, sometimes longer) I BARELY managed to get 4 hours of screen on time. All of this info from other users goes hand in hand with what every single tech review site also said about the G2 (especially when comparing it to the iPhone 5S): it lasts longer.

In that same XDA thread there were a few users who, just like you, had disappointing battery life. But guess what? They downloaded a few apps to see what was using the battery and all of them found that there was something running non-stop that was killing the battery (these are called wakelocks, they prevent the device from going into low power states aka deep sleep). Once they figured out the culprit, they found a way to stop the wakelock and their battery life spiked immensely. That's not to say that any of this is your fault, and I don't know if you have experience with Android, but when something goes wrong Android users usually figure it out and fix it. Since you probably just decided to try out Android after being on the iPhone for a while, you probably aren't in that same I-will-fix-my-own-problems mindset that most Android users are accustomed to. Also, you're nearly the only one in this thread that is getting poor battery life from your G2.

Your experience with the G2 battery life isn't the normal experience I read about on other forums. Battery life is one thing most posters rave about on the G2.

This user couldn't have said it better. This is essentially what I am saying, kenkotts.

P.S. This post isn't meant as an insult or troll you, it's just to state things that I've observed from doing my fair share of research about the phone in the past few days.
 

kenknotts

macrumors 6502
Sep 23, 2013
276
0
Hmm, believe one disgruntled guy on a forum who isn't sure if he had carrier IQ disabled or had some other issue or bug, or believe dozens of review sites, some very highly regarded in the tech industry like Anandtech. Hmm, tough choice. :rolleyes:

Again, look at the Anandtech test. The iPhone 5 was nearly identical to the G2 for wifi browsing. Considering the 5s has even better battery life then the 5, it's easy to see why my 5s got better battery life over wifi than my G2. I shouldn't have to disable carrier IQ to make my phone work correctly. Apple released two updates to fix issues with their software in iOS 7!within a week or two. This issue with the G2 has been going on for months and still no fix. Why? Tough to beat a company that makes its own hardware, the software for it and doesn't let carriers add any garbage to it.
 
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bova80

macrumors 6502a
Jul 8, 2008
581
33
Pittsburgh, PA
Again, look at the Anandtech test. The iPhone 5 was nearly identical to the G2 for wifi browsing. Considering the 5s has even better battery life then the 5, it's easy to see why my 5s got better battery life over wifi than my G2. I shouldn't have to disable carrier IQ to make my phone work correctly. Apple released two updates to fix issues with their software in iOS 7!within a week or two. This issue with the G2 has been going on for months and still no fix. Why? Tough to beat a company that makes its own hardware, the software for it and doesn't let carriers add any garbage to it.

and yet you are still in this thread? why waste you time?
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
Again, look at the Anandtech test. The iPhone 5 was nearly identical to the G2 for wifi browsing. Considering the 5s has even better battery life then the 5, it's easy to see why my 5s got better battery life over wifi than my G2. I shouldn't have to disable carrier IQ to make my phone work correctly. Apple released two updates to fix issues with their software in iOS 7!within a week or two. This issue with the G2 has been going on for months and still no fix. Why? Tough to beat a company that makes its own hardware, the software for it and doesn't let carriers add any garbage to it.

We already went over this and the fallacy of your logic. If the 5 and g2 got the same battery life over wifi WHY WOULDN'T YOU CHOOSE THE LARGER SCREEN? It's obvious (well you would think) that a larger screen would take more battery life, but to the G2's credit they still managed to match a phone with a much smaller screen. The question to ask here is why is the iphone 5's battery so poor that it cannot trounce a phone with a much larger screen?

As for carrier IQ, yeah I do agree with you we shouldn't have to mess with that. But from what I understand it's an occasional bug, from reading over at XDA devs and my own experience. Still, I won't deny, you have a point. Every phone has issues, I was amused to read about the blue screens of death on the 5s recently, for example.

Plus even WITH the carrier IQ bug my G2 still ran circles in battery life around the iphone 5, not even close. What I do during the day with my G2 takes me to around 30% by the time my head hits the pillow, without once ever connecting the power charger. If I did the same with my iphone 5, and believe me I did for a year, I would be at 30% by lunchtime if I was lucky.

Edit: Just to add, who the hell browses on their cell phone over wifi for 10 hours ?!?!?
 
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LSUtigers03

macrumors 68020
Apr 9, 2008
2,089
41
I went by Best Buy last night to get this phone but they didn't have any for AT&T in stock. I may wait and see some Nexus 5 reviews but as of right now I really want this phone. I might wait until next week that way I could get the G2 and hopefully still be within my 14 day window for when the Nexus 5 is announced just in case I wanted to return it.
 

rezenclowd3

macrumors 65816
If the 5 and g2 got the same battery life over wifi WHY WOULDN'T YOU CHOOSE THE LARGER SCREEN? It's obvious (well you would think) that a larger screen would take more battery life, but to the G2's credit they still managed to match a phone with a much smaller screen. The question to ask here is why is the iphone 5's battery so poor that it cannot trounce a phone with a much larger screen?

There is also quite a bit of flaw in your logic as well. The iP5s has a smaller battery (1560mah) and the G2 larger at 3000mah with the screen size difference being also smaller for the iP5s and larger for the G2 it makes sense they have the same browsing (with screen on time) battery life over wifi.

And why wouldn't one choose a larger screen is not a valid argument, as some prefer different form factors. Me personally I usually like the smallest footprint, but the battery life won along with my already substantial investment into Android apps helped me stay with Googles offerings.
 

SR71

macrumors 68000
Jan 12, 2011
1,604
372
Boston, MA
Again, look at the Anandtech test. The iPhone 5 was nearly identical to the G2 for wifi browsing. Considering the 5s has even better battery life then the 5, it's easy to see why my 5s got better battery life over wifi than my G2. I shouldn't have to disable carrier IQ to make my phone work correctly. Apple released two updates to fix issues with their software in iOS 7!within a week or two. This issue with the G2 has been going on for months and still no fix. Why? Tough to beat a company that makes its own hardware, the software for it and doesn't let carriers add any garbage to it.

This couldn't possibly have been an issue for "months" when the G2 was just released a month ago. Further, in your previous post you told me not to look at just tech review sites, yet in your post you reference Anandtech's battery life tests. I'm looking more at actual usage from other users who are all (or at least the majority) reporting significantly better battery life than what my iPhone 5 or even 5S can achieve.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
There is also quite a bit of flaw in your logic as well. The iP5s has a smaller battery (1560mah) and the G2 larger at 3000mah with the screen size difference being also smaller for the iP5s and larger for the G2 it makes sense they have the same browsing (with screen on time) battery life over wifi.

And why wouldn't one choose a larger screen is not a valid argument, as some prefer different form factors. Me personally I usually like the smallest footprint, but the battery life won along with my already substantial investment into Android apps helped me stay with Googles offerings.

I don't think the logic if flawed at all, but it is subjective. The G2 has a larger screen. I'm not saying anything other than a generalization about why wouldn't you use the larger screen all other things being equal, in this case we are only looking at the single factor of wifi browsing that keeps being brought up as a positive for the iphone 5. The iphone 5's battery may be more efficient, BUT it's still a moot point because all things being equal, the larger screen is more advantageous, especially if you are wifi browsing on a cell phone screen for 10 hours!

As for why you would choose a larger screen, it's a very valid argument, but it's certainly subjective. But I was only microscopically honing in on the single point of wifi browsing times, that's what keeps being harped on here. Certainly other things can be taken into consideration, considerably more video play for example, or how about 23.5 hours of cellular talk time, or 3g browsing. I understand the small size of the iphone attracts some, it attracted me for years, but that was not the argument. The specific argument was how the battery life on the G2 sucks and how the iphone 5 has so much more battery life.

I mean, if you are not wifi browsing for long periods of time then why bother to even put this up as an argument? The guy arguing the point that the iphone has better battery life pretty much just picked out the single thing that the iphone came close to the g2 in (but didn't beat) and that was wifi browsing, ignoring all the other stats showing the G2 trouncing the ip5 , using that as the basis that the G2 battery life was horrible.
 
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