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Septembersrain

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The problem with IPhone going forward, and I guess Samsung, too, is that if a person gets stuck with a buggy one, that's a painfully expensive "bad date". A good return/exchange and customer service policy then becomes more important with the prices for their flagships rising into the stratosphere the way they are.

I don't mind saying I'm nervous about the iPhone Edition being $1000- $1200 and that there is the potential for me feeling like I bought a prototype at such a dear cost rather than a fully realized fine tuned concept.

That happened to me with the iPhone 6. I loved it at first and then it became apparent it could be better. It really needed the RAM boost. It was a long year waiting for Apple to get it right with the 6S Plus.

With V30 I just don't know enough about how LG deals with customer issues. But the V30 looks like they gave it their all and it represents what they wanted it to be.

At least Nougat is good for me so far. iOS 10 has been an uneven ride. iOS 11 looks interesting but I hope I don't run into weird battery draining issues and app crashes as much as I did with certain versions of iOS 10.

I was one of those people who got a bent iPhone 6. In my purse.

They refused to admit an issue but "Negotiated" a price of $200 out of warranty replacement.

I'm not going to be an early adopter ever again. No thanks. Apple has definitely been the root cause of me losing my desire to be "First".

I'm still nervous over the Note 7 issue. Plus this LG has the same size battery as the Note 8. So honestly, I'm thinking band 71 and potentially better battery life are more important than 2GB RAM and an S-Pen.

I've been running iOS 11 beta on my 6s. It's been a ride. It's broken some weird stuff that I didn't even know I cared about until iOS 11 broke it.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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I just watched this. Sounds like he loves this device.

Props to LG. They did a lot right with the V30. I also think Samsung's lead in design is being challenged by this device.

What I find interesting from reviews on the V30 and Note 8 is ........ Battery life is nearly identical, photos nearly identical even in low light, displays on both are highly praised, and both have enough similar features. Haven't seen any video comparisons yet. Looks like these two phones will truly be a decision of preference rather than choosing one you think is better.
 

Septembersrain

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What I find interesting from reviews on the V30 and Note 8 is ........ Battery life is nearly identical, photos nearly identical even in low light, displays on both are highly praised, and both have enough similar features. Haven't seen any video comparisons yet. Looks like these two phones will truly be a decision of preference rather than choosing one you think is better.

For us T-Mobile folks it's 600 kHz.
 

Septembersrain

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I'm also with T-mobile. Is the 600 band everybody is speaking of in concern with more rural areas? I know in the city, people say it will be better for indoor usage as well and has higher speeds.

Lower spectrum travels further from my knowledge, so this will help with rural coverage. Might not give the best speeds but there are a lot of areas I travel out in the country that would benefit from any signal!
 

jamezr

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I would love to have this blue one...

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co.ag.2005

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For us T-Mobile folks it's 600 kHz.

I'm also with T-mobile. Is the 600 band everybody is speaking of in concern with more rural areas? I know in the city, people say it will be better for indoor usage as well and has higher speeds.

depends on the area. I think most areas it's rural and some it's bolstering low band offerings in cities.

However, the rollout may take longer than desired by T-Mobile, if this article has any truth to it:
http://bgr.com/2017/08/29/t-mobile-vs-verizon-coverage-600mhz-rollout/

"A report from Inside Towers, spotted by Fierce Wireless, says that there just aren’t enough trained tower-climbing technicians to do all the work necessary within T-Mobile’s ambitious timeline. “Inside Towers reported that one rep for Vertical Technology Services recently estimated only some 14 such crews are qualified; now, several executives back that up to Communications Daily. Because of this, Tower King II CEO Kevin Barber sees the repack as lasting between five to seven years, rather than three.”

The magenta map in that article makes me excited to see coverage in Northern Wisconsin where we spend a lot of time. Right now, T-Mobile roams on AT&T up there. So if they could get that done this year, that'd be huge!
 
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5105973

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I was one of those people who got a bent iPhone 6. In my purse.

They refused to admit an issue but "Negotiated" a price of $200 out of warranty replacement.

I'm not going to be an early adopter ever again. No thanks. Apple has definitely been the root cause of me losing my desire to be "First".

I'm still nervous over the Note 7 issue. Plus this LG has the same size battery as the Note 8. So honestly, I'm thinking band 71 and potentially better battery life are more important than 2GB RAM and an S-Pen.

I've been running iOS 11 beta on my 6s. It's been a ride. It's broken some weird stuff that I didn't even know I cared about until iOS 11 broke it.
My husband's iPad mysteriously bent a little bit before the iPhone 6 was out. He couldn't figure out how it happened, since he hand carries it and doesn't put it in bags where it could get bent under the weight of his laptop or anything else. It was quite the mystery. Anyway, when we heard about the iPhone 6 bend problem we thought about that bendy iPad.

I was an early adopter for the Note 7 but didn't consider that risky since it wasn't a huge leap from the S7 Edge. I never dreamed they'd screw up the design for the battery the way they did.

Where I decided to risk being an early adopter again was for the S8+ and its new kind of display. I'd really be happy to hang onto it, but I'm looking to get away from the single camera. And I'm really disappointed that audio recording is so much worse on my S8+ than on my S7 Edge. THAT is an unexpected downgrade that I don't want to live with long term. I'd also welcome less curvy edges. I really hate the distortion they cause.

What scares me about the new iPhone is that I've never had good experience with Apple batteries, except on my 6S Plus and my SE. The battery performance on my iPhone 7 Plus has degraded so fast, just like it did on my 6Plus, my 5s, and every iPad mini ive had with a Retina display.

I don't think it's even the battery, though. I think it's iOS. The battery performance really dropped after one of the updates. Then it went back up after another update, and dropped again with yet another update. It's not as bad as it was on one of thos updates, but it's not as good as it was when I first got it and before the first update I ever put on it.
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I would love to have this blue one...

lgv30tmo2-660x591.jpg
I would love that one or their lilac one. I really would like to stick with purple if I could. I love it on my S8+. But I think regional differences might once again bite us on the color choices. Or carrier differences will. AT&T is always so stodgy and limits everything to black, silver and gold. I'm shocked they ever offered the blue Note 7.
 

Aneres11

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I must be the only one not struck on the blue!
If it was pixel blue, maybe.

I love the silver one. Black and silver looks sleek!
 

spinedoc77

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Wow this gets more enticing. $749 pricing, which is a strong rumor because it's written on one of LG's promos fine print as the full value. Face unlocking with the screen off. 600mhz included for Tmobile. Lots of other cool stuff, looks like LG really put a lot of thought and effort into this.

So now I'm down to 2 major gripes, when will this update to Oreo and will they enable a bootloader unlock? If not then it's the Pixel XL2 for me, but it will be amusing to see it released at $1000 if it's just the v30 with Google branding.
 

MRU

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When does the review embargo lift for the V30? The Note 8 reviews are out.
Likely very soon as LG try to get just ahead or at least put pressure on Sasmung's Note8. I wouldn't be surprised if it was tomorrow or Thursday at latest.

However I wish they would just announce a price and release date already.
 
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epicrayban

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Hm, what in the world is LG waiting for, I wonder? This week, they contend with the Note 8. In a few weeks, they'll contend with the iPhone 8.

They have a potential winner on their hands. Assuming it's ready to go, they should get this thing out ASAP.

I wonder how supply constraints are going to affect the iPhone 8 availability versus the V30 and Note 8 availabilities.
 
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widgeteer

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Hm, what in the world is LG waiting for, I wonder? This week, they contend with the Note 8. In a few weeks, they'll contend with the iPhone 8.

They have a potential winner on their hands. Assuming it's ready to go, they should get this thing out ASAP.

I wonder how supply constraints are going to affect the iPhone 8 availability versus the V30 and Note 8 availabilities.

The demand for rhe iPhone greatly outstrips those two. I can't remember a time you couldn't get a Note at launch.
 
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spinedoc77

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Hm, what in the world is LG waiting for, I wonder? This week, they contend with the Note 8. In a few weeks, they'll contend with the iPhone 8.

They have a potential winner on their hands. Assuming it's ready to go, they should get this thing out ASAP.

I wonder how supply constraints are going to affect the iPhone 8 availability versus the V30 and Note 8 availabilities.

I think they are just strategically paring down their chances at success. It's probably easier to just keep failing and eventually be acquired by a larger company.
 
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