iPad Pro M1 iPad Pro...why?

[pdoherty]

That’s what I see happening. Apple modifies the iPadOS so that it has libraries for runnin native Mac apps (same way the Macs are running iPad apps now). The apps will install from a separate section of the App Store and, once installed, they launch and behave just like an iPad app (with the ability to use a pointing device).

 

[1BadManVan]

I imagine at WWDC we are getting Xcode, Final Cut, and Logic Pro for iPad. Next year likely the ability to dual boot to Mac OS.

As much as I love to hear this, is there any indication to this?

 

[jeremiah256]

That’s what I see happening. Apple modifies the iPadOS so that it has libraries for runnin native Mac apps (same way the Macs are running iPad apps now). The apps will install from a separate section of the App Store and, once installed, they launch and behave just like an iPad app (with the ability to use a pointing device).

A killer feature for me and my spreadsheets.

 

[fwilers]

That’s what I see happening. Apple modifies the iPadOS so that it has libraries for runnin native Mac apps (same way the Macs are running iPad apps now). The apps will install from a separate section of the App Store and, once installed, they launch and behave just like an iPad app (with the ability to use a pointing device).

I hope so.
I'm one that actually finds the Mac limiting because it doesn't have ipad pro features. Better screen, 5G LTE, better camera, touch, pencil support, ibeacon, Lidar scanner, gyro and acceleromter, FACE ID!!

I like my MacBook Air M1 because of certain photo editing apps, but honestly it's kind of boring. Plus I like having just a screen I can hold in my hand, if I'm reading the news, or watching some videos, and not doing any serious work. Or if I just want to sketch out some ideas. I would just like to see easily resizable windows in ipad os.

 

[thechris.prince]

Define workarounds. iPadOS worked well for me as a productivity device even three revisions ago, so I legitimately don’t understand when people describe it as hampered. The way I see it, the only difference is that you can’t do the same things in exactly the same ways. But that’s true of Mac vs Windows vs Linux vs Android. What kind of workflows are you trying to do that require workarounds, and what kinds of workarounds are you doing? I genuinely want to know.

I'll bite without any snark. Here's my workflow that I would LOVE to simplify.

I'm a fashion photographer. I use CaptureOne as it's far superior to Lightroom for MY needs. On-location shoots, I bring a 2019 13 "MBP. Worst Mac I've ever owned for reasons I'll skip for the sake of answering your workflow question. After the shoot, I transfer with an external drive to my 2010 MacPro with Dual 2.4 Xeon, 40GB ram, RTX570. CP1 works great on this machine. I have five internal hard drives for 9.5TB of space. Boot, Scratch, Long Term Storage, Clone Long Term Storage, and a Time Machine for the Boot and Scratch drive. The MP is getting old, but as a business owner, it's bulletproof reliable. And that is more important than a few seconds faster export. But the thing weighs 50 LBS and SUCKS to drag to a location shoot because I trust it more than the MBP.

I also trade currencies with the MetaTrader4 platform. Again, it's old but an industry standard. TradingView is great, but I found some limitations working with it through my broker.

So, what would my dream machine be? A 12.9" iPadPro that is amazing on set. I can tether into it from my camera and add an external monitor if needed (very common) and an external drive at the same time for clients to take after the shoot. I need a hub, but those are now supported. Stop at a coffee shop after the shoot and place a trade through desktop-class MT4. Get home and dock the iPadPro and use my monthly color-calibrated external monitor and all those external drives.

Here's why non of this works with my 2018 iPad Pro.
CaptureOne doesn't have an iPadOS app. Interesting things ahead with the beta, but no announcement on an app.
MT4 does have an iPad app, but it's far from the full desktop version.
iPad doesn't have full external monitor support.
No external monitor color profiles
I have lots of drives and need flexibility as someone who creates a lot of content for clients.

So the problem is that the software that's vital for my business as a PRO creator isn't available for the iPad. And I'm the target market! Now, you could argue that's a problem on the software side, and I'd tend to agree. But things like access to RAID drives and full external monitor support and color calibration of those monitors, and complete multitasking and file management aren't there yet on iPadOS.

Dropping ~2k on an iPad would be fine if I could sell the MBP and MP, get an external HD enclosure, and run EVERYTHING off that one machine. So I'm looking forward to an M1 something. However, I can't justify it beyond selling the MPB and getting an M1MBP and waiting until my ideal setup of one powerful device on the go and the same device with a dock and all the "desktop stuff" that's need for the workstation. Now a 16" M1MBP might be that solution, but I prefer the smaller form factor for location work.

While I think I have some specific needs that don't work in today's iPadOS environment, I know I can't be alone. I'm looking forward to Apple truly delivering the all-in-one for the pro like me that is portable, insane battery life, powerful, isn't an intel toaster oven, and can handle all the old-style workstation desktop-class hoops we professional creators have to jump through.

Sorry for the incredibly long post; I hope that puts it into perspective that there are just a FEW things it can't do, but those things are non-negotiable.

 

[spiderman0616]

I'll bite without any snark. Here's my workflow that I would LOVE to simplify.

I'm a fashion photographer. I use CaptureOne as it's far superior to Lightroom for MY needs. On-location shoots, I bring a 2019 13 "MBP. Worst Mac I've ever owned for reasons I'll skip for the sake of answering your workflow question. After the shoot, I transfer with an external drive to my 2010 MacPro with Dual 2.4 Xeon, 40GB ram, RTX570. CP1 works great on this machine. I have five internal hard drives for 9.5TB of space. Boot, Scratch, Long Term Storage, Clone Long Term Storage, and a Time Machine for the Boot and Scratch drive. The MP is getting old, but as a business owner, it's bulletproof reliable. And that is more important than a few seconds faster export. But the thing weighs 50 LBS and SUCKS to drag to a location shoot because I trust it more than the MBP.

I also trade currencies with the MetaTrader4 platform. Again, it's old but an industry standard. TradingView is great, but I found some limitations working with it through my broker.

So, what would my dream machine be? A 12.9" iPadPro that is amazing on set. I can tether into it from my camera and add an external monitor if needed (very common) and an external drive at the same time for clients to take after the shoot. I need a hub, but those are now supported. Stop at a coffee shop after the shoot and place a trade through desktop-class MT4. Get home and dock the iPadPro and use my monthly color-calibrated external monitor and all those external drives.

Here's why non of this works with my 2018 iPad Pro.
CaptureOne doesn't have an iPadOS app. Interesting things ahead with the beta, but no announcement on an app.
MT4 does have an iPad app, but it's far from the full desktop version.
iPad doesn't have full external monitor support.
No external monitor color profiles
I have lots of drives and need flexibility as someone who creates a lot of content for clients.

So the problem is that the software that's vital for my business as a PRO creator isn't available for the iPad. And I'm the target market! Now, you could argue that's a problem on the software side, and I'd tend to agree. But things like access to RAID drives and full external monitor support and color calibration of those monitors, and complete multitasking and file management aren't there yet on iPadOS.

Dropping ~2k on an iPad would be fine if I could sell the MBP and MP, get an external HD enclosure, and run EVERYTHING off that one machine. So I'm looking forward to an M1 something. However, I can't justify it beyond selling the MPB and getting an M1MBP and waiting until my ideal setup of one powerful device on the go and the same device with a dock and all the "desktop stuff" that's need for the workstation. Now a 16" M1MBP might be that solution, but I prefer the smaller form factor for location work.

While I think I have some specific needs that don't work in today's iPadOS environment, I know I can't be alone. I'm looking forward to Apple truly delivering the all-in-one for the pro like me that is portable, insane battery life, powerful, isn't an intel toaster oven, and can handle all the old-style workstation desktop-class hoops we professional creators have to jump through.

Sorry for the incredibly long post; I hope that puts it into perspective that there are just a FEW things it can't do, but those things are non-negotiable.

Definitely sounds like an M1 MBA or MBP would be your dream machine for all the things you’re describing above. I’ve been using mine for all the Serif apps as well as other odds and ends as far as “pro” editing apps. It runs everything like butter, is thin and light (much lighter and less bulky than a 12.9” iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard), and instantly wakes up as soon as I open the lid.

And speaking of opening the lid, have you ever tried to set an iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard down flat on a table and then tried opening it like a laptop? It’s just not possible because that hinge is so stiff. It’s also way harder to pick up OFF the table because it sits flat against the surface. Minor annoyances for sure, but annoyances nonetheless.

I was an iPad Pro-only guy since gen 1 of the line, but I no longer am. Eventually all this time, energy, money, and compromise that it takes to turn your iPad into a laptop starts making you realize that what you really need is an actual laptop.

Edit: also wanted to mention that I love carrying my M1 MBA around in the Apple leather sleeve. It reminds me of Steve Jobs pulling the first gen Air out of that Manila envelope.

 

[DeanL]

When the 2018 pro came with USB C there was no iPadOS, at least now we are only less than 2 months away from a likely major improvement

But tell me, what major changes did iPadOS truly bring? iPadOS didn't bring fundamental changes. It didn't transform the iPad. The iPad is still nothing but a bigger iPhone.

I think that this is also point to something else. The pro is decoupling from the rest of the line. iPadOS could introduce new features that only the M1 can take advantage of, like heavy multitasking on external display and iPad at the same time, or even, dare I say, background apps. Older iPads, including pro ones, won't age well...

This assumes that current iPads can't do this. Remember that the DTK essentially had an iPad chip, yet was running macOS and was beating several Intel desktop CPUs in benchmarks.
If Apple introduces "heavy multitasking" only for M1 iPads, it won't be because other iPads can't do it but for $$$.

I’d assume the M1 has a Thunderbolt controller included on-chip when the Ax Series doesn’t. The big perk of the Thunderbolt port (other than display daisy chaining and high speed external storage) is external PCIe, which is very much a “pro” thing (imagine an iPad Pro with FinalCut, one of OWC’s Helios external PCIe chassis, and an Afterburner card, highly portable laptop replacement out of the home, pro workstation at home).

That's correct. M1 Macs do not have a separate Thunderbolt controller.

They split iOS into iOS and iPadOS just a couple of years ago in 2019. Do you think Apple are going to put macOS on an iPad so soon after this change? They said they split it so they could focus on features that were more relevant to each hardware form factor. Putting macOS on an iPad so soon seems a weird decision.

Do you want a full-on Mac-like experience in a tablet? You'd have to add a mouse/trackpad and keyboard to get any use out of it. If you didn't, can you imagine trying to write code in an app like Xcode or IntelliJ's IDEA with a massive keyboard on your screen? It wouldn't be possible.

1. Strategy changes happen, so yeah, they could still put macOS on an iPad "so soon".
2. Remember that macOS can now run iPad apps, therefore the iPad could still have macOS while retaining what makes an iPad an iPad.

 

[hatchettjack]

I’m pretty sure the ipp and Mac will be sharing an os at some point!

 

[fwilers]

I'll bite without any snark. Here's my workflow that I would LOVE to simplify.

I'm a fashion photographer. I use CaptureOne as it's far superior to Lightroom for MY needs. On-location shoots, I bring a 2019 13 "MBP. Worst Mac I've ever owned for reasons I'll skip for the sake of answering your workflow question. After the shoot, I transfer with an external drive to my 2010 MacPro with Dual 2.4 Xeon, 40GB ram, RTX570. CP1 works great on this machine. I have five internal hard drives for 9.5TB of space. Boot, Scratch, Long Term Storage, Clone Long Term Storage, and a Time Machine for the Boot and Scratch drive. The MP is getting old, but as a business owner, it's bulletproof reliable. And that is more important than a few seconds faster export. But the thing weighs 50 LBS and SUCKS to drag to a location shoot because I trust it more than the MBP.

I also trade currencies with the MetaTrader4 platform. Again, it's old but an industry standard. TradingView is great, but I found some limitations working with it through my broker.

So, what would my dream machine be? A 12.9" iPadPro that is amazing on set. I can tether into it from my camera and add an external monitor if needed (very common) and an external drive at the same time for clients to take after the shoot. I need a hub, but those are now supported. Stop at a coffee shop after the shoot and place a trade through desktop-class MT4. Get home and dock the iPadPro and use my monthly color-calibrated external monitor and all those external drives.

Here's why non of this works with my 2018 iPad Pro.
CaptureOne doesn't have an iPadOS app. Interesting things ahead with the beta, but no announcement on an app.
MT4 does have an iPad app, but it's far from the full desktop version.
iPad doesn't have full external monitor support.
No external monitor color profiles
I have lots of drives and need flexibility as someone who creates a lot of content for clients.

So the problem is that the software that's vital for my business as a PRO creator isn't available for the iPad. And I'm the target market! Now, you could argue that's a problem on the software side, and I'd tend to agree. But things like access to RAID drives and full external monitor support and color calibration of those monitors, and complete multitasking and file management aren't there yet on iPadOS.

Dropping ~2k on an iPad would be fine if I could sell the MBP and MP, get an external HD enclosure, and run EVERYTHING off that one machine. So I'm looking forward to an M1 something. However, I can't justify it beyond selling the MPB and getting an M1MBP and waiting until my ideal setup of one powerful device on the go and the same device with a dock and all the "desktop stuff" that's need for the workstation. Now a 16" M1MBP might be that solution, but I prefer the smaller form factor for location work.

While I think I have some specific needs that don't work in today's iPadOS environment, I know I can't be alone. I'm looking forward to Apple truly delivering the all-in-one for the pro like me that is portable, insane battery life, powerful, isn't an intel toaster oven, and can handle all the old-style workstation desktop-class hoops we professional creators have to jump through.

Sorry for the incredibly long post; I hope that puts it into perspective that there are just a FEW things it can't do, but those things are non-negotiable.

Why would an iPad Pro be amazing on set compared to 13 MBP. You can tether to MBP currently with Capture One, which is what most do. In fact I see many have their MBP or Windows laptop in a small sling on their back connected directly to camera if they need to move around. Too much of software requires a keyboard anyway, so you would be gaining nothing by going with iPad Pro unless you want to edit with pencil. Even then, you can sidecar the iPad with a Mac.
I would ditch the old Mac Pro. I had one, but the mini is so much faster and quieter with Capture One. Also DaVinci Resolve. I've never run into an issue with 16GB memory either which is the default reason people say nay to the mini. I believe ssd's are faster than the memory in those old mac's anyway.

The issue I have with Capture One is they have not updated their software to allow tethering, and it's been a long time now. Not sure what the hang up is.

But you could replace everything with the rumored 14" MacBook Pro and solve all of your issues. Get rid of old Mac Pro and MBP. I'm assuming Capture One (which works great on M1 right now minus tethering) will be updated by then.

 

[M87]

They’d have to find a way to bring full MacOS over for this to really excite me. Even then, my M1 Air is awfully nice with its built in keyboard, two ports, headphone jack, and lower price.

 

[LogicalApex]

Whether Apple makes the iPad Pro boot into MacOS UI or not, they may not do that, but may still encapsulate Mac apps in such a way as to make them launchable from the iPad GUI. iPad Pro users with a keyboard and trackpad/mouse would then use the app as if it was an iPad-native app. Same way they’re letting Mac OS users run their iPad apps.

Yeah the big question is really in how they’ll handle this. But I see so many roads that have been leading to macOS in an iPad I can’t ignore it. I see them doing it as either a VM or dual OS somehow to minimize complexity. But time will tell.

First clue was the obvious adding of M1 to the iPad. It was pretty clear they did this to hint at this cross compatibility at the hardware level. Otherwise, they would have done the same thing the did with M1 when they branched it from the A-Series chips and diverge the branding back to A-Series to say it isn’t a desktop class chip.

Second clue was them now exposing RAM amounts on the iPad Pro. No other iOS or iPadOS device has RAM amounts disclosed. Even when they’ve done varied RAM capacities within a line they don’t share it in the specs. iOS has its RAM management system and it has never been exposed to the user. They didn’t break from this practice for no reason. They are hunting at the new iPad Pro being placed in a situation where RAM constraints are apparent to the user. That’s a macOS reality and not an iOS one. iPadOS lacks anyway to monitor application RAM use or system RAM use. With the fast SSD storage users likely have no idea they are even being paged to disk (and this is ignoring RAM compression). Adding this means you’ll need a way to know you are RAM starved and a way to starve yourself. All macOS things.

Third clue has been in macOS. They diverged to macOS 11 last year with the file system being entirely read only and the user data being all moved to virtual volumes on top of the underlying storage volume. Meaning macOS apps are now unable to modify the kernel and the file system could host an iPadOS file system and macOS file system together without complications. The M1 macs have instant on which could be demonstrating the speed at which it could have macOS ready.

WWDC will be very interesting this year.

 

[Serban55]

Since the M1 is marketing term thing, since the M1 has receive so much applause, and probably Apple changed that A14x into the M1....the better question would have been ipad Pro with 16gb ram , why ?

Probably will get one....but, since i dont care about the OS (being ipados and not macos or whatever) but more about what apps i can access, i will wait until June WWDC and decide then
If we get finalcutpro, xcode and all others stuff....the OS becomes almost irrelevant for me, the apps are more important than the operating system
I mean, Apple never jump so hard on RAM with the ipads...we just got the 6gb ram on the latest ipad pro for all storages and now, another jump for all to 8gb ram and for the 1/2T you get 16gb ram?! it must means something
And at WWDC i bet we can have the answer...it will be either the Apple apps are coming to ipadOS...or they will let macOS for dual boot on arm architecture ...or...but small chances, nothing will happen , but i hope not
So, WWDC becomes even more exiting for a lot of us

 

[jcshas]

I only wish I had visibility into where Apple is going with the M1 iPad Pro so I can make an informed decision of going all in on iPad Pro vs. upgrading my intel based Macbook. I love my 2021 iPad Pro and use it for just about everything, but every once in a while I need to reach for my MacBook like I did last week when I needed to rip a CD. Situations like that really frustrate me because if I’m going all in on an expensive iPad Pro it should be capable of handling anything I throw at it.

 

[Serban55]

I only wish I had visibility into where Apple is going with the M1 iPad Pro so I can make an informed decision of going all in on iPad Pro vs. upgrading my intel based Macbook. I love my 2021 iPad Pro and use it for just about everything, but every once in a while I need to reach for my MacBook like I did last week when I needed to rip a CD. Situations like that really frustrate me because if I’m going all in on an expensive iPad Pro it should be capable of handling anything I throw at it.

Just wait until WWDC...is almost right after the corner...i mean the ipad pro come after half of May, and in the beggining of June we will see what Apple holds for us for the next ipadOS

 

[SkiHound2]

Might be nothing more than economies of scale. We knew an A14x was going be pretty similar to the M1. Apple is putting the M1 in the Macbook Air, the current Macbook 13" Pro, the new 24" iMac, and now the iPad Pro. Using the same chip in a bunch of devices probably reduces unit cost, reduces supply and inventory problems, allows them to use a lot of other components in a range of devices, etc. Compare that to dealing with several different Intel Desktop CPUs, several different notebook CPUs, a range of desktop and Macbook GPUs, etc. Using an M1 rather than some variant that's customized for an iPad may well be the least expensive and logistically simplest option.

 

[rumz]

Since the M1 is marketing term thing, since the M1 has receive so much applause, and probably Apple changed that A14x into the M1....the better question would have been ipad Pro with 16gb ram , why ?

Yeah. There's a lot of "wow, they put the same chip in the iPad Pro as the Mac, so big things must be in store this summer for iPad OS!" going around this week-- as if we just got an Intel (PC) processor slapped into an iPad, making its internals more "PC-like".

When in reality the big deal has just been the transition of *the Mac* to A14X (M1) and how great they perform with so much less heat and power / much improved battery life.

If anything, Mac moving to M1 just shows how immature iPadOS is.

Having MacOS ported to apple's silicon still creates some big potential for the iPad Pro, for sure... but I wonder if people are assuming too much about the presence of the M1 in the iPad.

 

[Digitalguy]

But tell me, what major changes did iPadOS truly bring? iPadOS didn't bring fundamental changes. It didn't transform the iPad. The iPad is still nothing but a bigger iPhone.

This assumes that current iPads can't do this. Remember that the DTK essentially had an iPad chip, yet was running macOS and was beating several Intel desktop CPUs in benchmarks.
If Apple introduces "heavy multitasking" only for M1 iPads, it won't be because other iPads can't do it but for $$$.

That's correct. M1 Macs do not have a separate Thunderbolt controller.

1. Strategy changes happen, so yeah, they could still put macOS on an iPad "so soon".
2. Remember that macOS can now run iPad apps, therefore the iPad could still have macOS while retaining what makes an iPad an iPad.

1. I was referring to external storage when mentioning USB C, which was a big deal for iPadOS since even Android could do it since the beginning... Add to that desktop Safari, which again is a big deal for people like me that use gmail or other webpages that need the desktop version plus some useful multitasking option...

2. You are forgetting a key element, RAM. The DTK had 16GB RAM. As I said in an earlier post, Apple won't openly say it's due to RAM, but they will use M1 as a differentiator, but the real differentiator will be RAM.

At this point we don't know what's coming for iPadOS but it's already no longer a bigger iPhone, while still being far from a desktop OS

 

[Digitalguy]

I'll bite without any snark. Here's my workflow that I would LOVE to simplify.

I'm a fashion photographer. I use CaptureOne as it's far superior to Lightroom for MY needs. On-location shoots, I bring a 2019 13 "MBP. Worst Mac I've ever owned for reasons I'll skip for the sake of answering your workflow question. After the shoot, I transfer with an external drive to my 2010 MacPro with Dual 2.4 Xeon, 40GB ram, RTX570. CP1 works great on this machine. I have five internal hard drives for 9.5TB of space. Boot, Scratch, Long Term Storage, Clone Long Term Storage, and a Time Machine for the Boot and Scratch drive. The MP is getting old, but as a business owner, it's bulletproof reliable. And that is more important than a few seconds faster export. But the thing weighs 50 LBS and SUCKS to drag to a location shoot because I trust it more than the MBP.

I also trade currencies with the MetaTrader4 platform. Again, it's old but an industry standard. TradingView is great, but I found some limitations working with it through my broker.

So, what would my dream machine be? A 12.9" iPadPro that is amazing on set. I can tether into it from my camera and add an external monitor if needed (very common) and an external drive at the same time for clients to take after the shoot. I need a hub, but those are now supported. Stop at a coffee shop after the shoot and place a trade through desktop-class MT4. Get home and dock the iPadPro and use my monthly color-calibrated external monitor and all those external drives.

Here's why non of this works with my 2018 iPad Pro.
CaptureOne doesn't have an iPadOS app. Interesting things ahead with the beta, but no announcement on an app.
MT4 does have an iPad app, but it's far from the full desktop version.
iPad doesn't have full external monitor support.
No external monitor color profiles
I have lots of drives and need flexibility as someone who creates a lot of content for clients.

So the problem is that the software that's vital for my business as a PRO creator isn't available for the iPad. And I'm the target market! Now, you could argue that's a problem on the software side, and I'd tend to agree. But things like access to RAID drives and full external monitor support and color calibration of those monitors, and complete multitasking and file management aren't there yet on iPadOS.

Dropping ~2k on an iPad would be fine if I could sell the MBP and MP, get an external HD enclosure, and run EVERYTHING off that one machine. So I'm looking forward to an M1 something. However, I can't justify it beyond selling the MPB and getting an M1MBP and waiting until my ideal setup of one powerful device on the go and the same device with a dock and all the "desktop stuff" that's need for the workstation. Now a 16" M1MBP might be that solution, but I prefer the smaller form factor for location work.

While I think I have some specific needs that don't work in today's iPadOS environment, I know I can't be alone. I'm looking forward to Apple truly delivering the all-in-one for the pro like me that is portable, insane battery life, powerful, isn't an intel toaster oven, and can handle all the old-style workstation desktop-class hoops we professional creators have to jump through.

Sorry for the incredibly long post; I hope that puts it into perspective that there are just a FEW things it can't do, but those things are non-negotiable.

I'll add some other limitations from a point of view of a University teacher that works a lot with documents (should be easy to handle for iPad, right? Wrong...)
I need to have several Word files from my students open at the same time to annotate them. Well I can only have 2... More than that I have to use non Microsoft apps that destroy the layout of a Windows made file, like Pages... And it's quite complicated with the taskbar. iPadOS needs a more flexible taskbar like Mac and Windows.
I need to work with external monitor to compare several documents and I can't...
The PowerPoint or Keynote app are too limited for my presentations, especially as I can't either view or resize my notes while presenting...
And the most important of all, I need background cloud syncing of both Dropbox and Onedrive... And you can only partially have that, with the main obstacle being that it doesn't work from the file app, and there is no central file management to allow that... so you need to work from each app... and some allow more than one file open, others, like Word, don't...
So it's partly an OS issue, partly an app issues, since IOS has historically push apps to be limited (RAM limitations) and not use a central file system...

 

[TomOSeven]

Apple will introduce their pro apps such as Xcode, Final Cut, etc.

I wonder if the iPad-Pro-OS (whatever it will be called, if it comes out at all), would run on all iPad Pros or only the M1 ones.

 

[spiderman0616]

I wonder if the iPad-Pro-OS (whatever it will be called, if it comes out at all), would run on all iPad Pros or only the M1 ones.

There will be a completely new form factor that isn't an iPad or a Mac when this OS is launched.

 

[slplss]

You want to code on a 13” screen? Ooomph, good luck with that friend. I can’t imagine a workflow being less productive.

Many people code in 13 inch screens and me personally i hate it. infact i code on two 30inch screens

I agree its mad to code on a tiny screen but loads do it!

And let's not forget the 4:3 ratio, more lines for Xcode (and Word).

 

[TomOSeven]

Then I don't see the point of an M1 iPad Pro based on something that isn't even a suggestion, let alone a promise, of software yet.

 

[Digitalguy]

I wonder if the iPad-Pro-OS (whatever it will be called, if it comes out at all), would run on all iPad Pros or only the M1 ones.

I don't think it will take a new name, but yes, it will be M1 only (and future M), not including the older pros. No new form factors in my opinion...

 

[DeanL]

2. You are forgetting a key element, RAM. The DTK had 16GB RAM. As I said in an earlier post, Apple won't openly say it's due to RAM, but they will use M1 as a differentiator, but the real differentiator will be RAM.

The DTK had 16GB RAM, but Apple sells M1 Macs that have 8 GB of RAM. Apple's own minimum requirements for Big Sur states 4GB of RAM minimum, and the 2020 iPad Pro has 6 GB. So I don't think so.

 

[thechris.prince]

Why would an iPad Pro be amazing on set compared to 13 MBP. You can tether to MBP currently with Capture One, which is what most do. In fact I see many have their MBP or Windows laptop in a small sling on their back connected directly to camera if they need to move around. Too much of software requires a keyboard anyway, so you would be gaining nothing by going with iPad Pro unless you want to edit with pencil. Even then, you can sidecar the iPad with a Mac.
I would ditch the old Mac Pro. I had one, but the mini is so much faster and quieter with Capture One. Also DaVinci Resolve. I've never run into an issue with 16GB memory either which is the default reason people say nay to the mini. I believe ssd's are faster than the memory in those old mac's anyway.

The issue I have with Capture One is they have not updated their software to allow tethering, and it's been a long time now. Not sure what the hang up is.

But you could replace everything with the rumored 14" MacBook Pro and solve all of your issues. Get rid of old Mac Pro and MBP. I'm assuming Capture One (which works great on M1 right now minus tethering) will be updated by then.

I think you're right, which further answers the OP's question of why can't an iPad Pro work for everyone. I think I'll continue along until the 14/16s are announced and see if I can consolidate everything into one laptop. The 5.1 is old AF, but man is it a pro level reliability, and that is worth a lot of peace of mind. Especially compared to all the issues I've had with the 19 MBP.