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mistermac.us

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Jul 21, 2021
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I have a M1 mac mini (16GB memory) on 11.2.3 with Samsung G9. Most peripherals are connected via usb 3.0 powered hub. The main issue I have is all my usb devices would stop functioning seemingly randomly.

Happens most frequently when sleeping or screensaver is on which prevented wake up with keyboard/mouse. Even weirder if I disable sleep/screen saver and use a mouse jiggler it would after some time randomly output a loud noise on my usb speaker then all usb devices stop working. Unplugging and replugin USB does not work. If I take out hub and plug directly it works for mouse (keyboard doesn't work). If I restart it works. If I plug in different keyboard/mouse via bluetooth it works but hub won't work until restart.

This is definitely a software issue and one I hope they know of and fix soon.
Seems like this is something that can still be improved on (skip to like minute 9)

 

drbill

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Sep 25, 2020
105
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Overall, I'm very happy with my M1 MBP. That's not to say that there haven't been issues along the way! But as I've progressed thru the versions of macOS 11 things have gotten steadily better. Right now the only issue I'm aware of is intermittent failure to charge. I've turned off optimized charging for the time being because of this. The MBP charges every time and completely when attached to my CalGigit Element hub but with the apple charger I have to be sure it's recognized when I connect. Sometimes I have to disconnect and reconnect or even restart. And, sometimes even when the charging has begun, I come back to find that charging has stopped and the MBP is again on battery power. Apple support was of no real help sending me a new charger and cable and telling mt to take the machine to the Apple Store (3 hours away) if that didn't fix it - it didn't.

So again, mostly every thing works as it should and performance is excellent but I could use some suggestions regarding my charging issues.
 

kiwi-in-dc

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Jul 31, 2006
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Having a difficult time with USB. My Mac mini (Intel) just died and so I'm using my MacBook Air M1 (16G/1TB). I do a lot of audio and video work and have a complicated USB setup with two OWC RAID mirrors in RAID0, two external USB drives for Time Machine backups, an OWC double SSD case along with audio adapters, a camera and because I'm a flying nerd, joystick, pedals and throttle. Add to that connections to two home automation devices and you get complicated fast.

So, what I have is this:

USB-C Dock with one USB-C two USB-A
OWC Mercury Elite Pro with USB-C Hub - RAID #1 (USB-C)
OWC Mercury Elite Pro with USB-C Hub - RAID #1 (USB-C from RAID #1)
OWC Mercury Elite Pro Mini (USB-C from RAID #2)
USB Switch from USB-C Dock (USB-A #1) - I have another MacBook Pro attached for my day job
10 port USB 3.0 Hub (which contains USB 2.0 hubs for slower devices).
USB 8 Port Hub from USB-C Dock (USB-A #2)
2x WD Elements 8TB USB 3.0 Drives

This all comes out at an incredibly complicate mapping of hubs and ports including an HDMI "Billboard device" for my monitor.

It all worked swimmingly with the Mac mini and my day job MBP.

The MBA however works with some things and not others. The hub structure goes 4 levels deep but anything below level 4 is simply not recognized.

Any ideas?
 

gank41

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Mar 25, 2008
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Having a difficult time with USB. My Mac mini (Intel) just died and so I'm using my MacBook Air M1 (16G/1TB). I do a lot of audio and video work and have a complicated USB setup with two OWC RAID mirrors in RAID0, two external USB drives for Time Machine backups, an OWC double SSD case along with audio adapters, a camera and because I'm a flying nerd, joystick, pedals and throttle. Add to that connections to two home automation devices and you get complicated fast.

So, what I have is this:

USB-C Dock with one USB-C two USB-A
OWC Mercury Elite Pro with USB-C Hub - RAID #1 (USB-C)
OWC Mercury Elite Pro with USB-C Hub - RAID #1 (USB-C from RAID #1)
OWC Mercury Elite Pro Mini (USB-C from RAID #2)
USB Switch from USB-C Dock (USB-A #1) - I have another MacBook Pro attached for my day job
10 port USB 3.0 Hub (which contains USB 2.0 hubs for slower devices).
USB 8 Port Hub from USB-C Dock (USB-A #2)
2x WD Elements 8TB USB 3.0 Drives

This all comes out at an incredibly complicate mapping of hubs and ports including an HDMI "Billboard device" for my monitor.

It all worked swimmingly with the Mac mini and my day job MBP.

The MBA however works with some things and not others. The hub structure goes 4 levels deep but anything below level 4 is simply not recognized.

Any ideas?
Although not as “complicated” as your setup, I still have many things connected (8 external drives, monitor, Ethernet, audio out). Sometimes I need to use an old FireWire Edirol interface and need to disconnect some of my drives (physically, not just eject) and it’s my understanding it’s the amount of bandwidth per port on the M1s is less than the Intel models? Not as many lanes?
 

gank41

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Mar 25, 2008
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I try to stay away from non-powered hubs as much as I can! Unless your hub is self powered powered by the port stay far away from those hub as possible!
I’m using two powered hubs :)
It’s rare that I have any issues. But if I do it’s generally because I’ve got too many things plugged in
 
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ADGrant

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Mar 26, 2018
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Having a difficult time with USB. My Mac mini (Intel) just died and so I'm using my MacBook Air M1 (16G/1TB). I do a lot of audio and video work and have a complicated USB setup with two OWC RAID mirrors in RAID0, two external USB drives for Time Machine backups, an OWC double SSD case along with audio adapters, a camera and because I'm a flying nerd, joystick, pedals and throttle. Add to that connections to two home automation devices and you get complicated fast.

So, what I have is this:

USB-C Dock with one USB-C two USB-A
OWC Mercury Elite Pro with USB-C Hub - RAID #1 (USB-C)
OWC Mercury Elite Pro with USB-C Hub - RAID #1 (USB-C from RAID #1)
OWC Mercury Elite Pro Mini (USB-C from RAID #2)
USB Switch from USB-C Dock (USB-A #1) - I have another MacBook Pro attached for my day job
10 port USB 3.0 Hub (which contains USB 2.0 hubs for slower devices).
USB 8 Port Hub from USB-C Dock (USB-A #2)
2x WD Elements 8TB USB 3.0 Drives

This all comes out at an incredibly complicate mapping of hubs and ports including an HDMI "Billboard device" for my monitor.

It all worked swimmingly with the Mac mini and my day job MBP.

The MBA however works with some things and not others. The hub structure goes 4 levels deep but anything below level 4 is simply not recognized.

Any ideas?
Unfortunately you seem to have run into one of the more significant weaknesses of the M1, its USB & Thunderbolt connectivity. Strangely the TB performance of the M1 is even weaker in the iPad Pro.

You may be able to simplify your setup by switching to a primary hub with more ports.
 

iciconnect

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May 18, 2010
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Seems like this is something that can still be improved on (skip to like minute 9)

Still random on my M1 Mac Mini 16 GB 2 TB model. While it's sitting idle (an hour or a few hours). The Corsair wired keyboard would become unknown to the iCUE application. iCUE controls the lighting and features on the Corsair keyboard. Still excepted as a keyboard by the Mac, just iCUE doesn't see it as a connected device. I must run Activity Monitor to force quit the iCUE application and try to launch it again, 50 - 50 success rate or reboot.
 

iciconnect

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May 18, 2010
34
5
Florida
I'm not sure if this is an issue I'm seeing with my M1 Mac Mini. But Photo breaks all the time. I'm always losing Photos and videos. From the Mac while it's syncing with iCloud services. Leaving me without photos and videos I once had.
 

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osplo

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Nov 1, 2008
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I'm not sure if this is an issue I'm seeing with my M1 Mac Mini. But Photo breaks all the time. I'm always losing Photos and videos. From the Mac while it's syncing with iCloud services. Leaving me without photos and videos I once had.

Log into your iCloud.com account using a web browser to see whether they are there or not. Maybe they are.
 
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Aquaporin

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Jun 27, 2005
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My WD passport stopped working mid back up. Now when I plug it in it causes the system to lock up and panic. If I restart with it plugged in, the Mac locks up and panics. Not sure why the drive is acting up now, it’s about a year old. It worked previously with the M1 MBP.
 

gank41

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My WD passport stopped working mid back up. Now when I plug it in it causes the system to lock up and panic. If I restart with it plugged in, the Mac locks up and panics. Not sure why the drive is acting up now, it’s about a year old. It worked previously with the M1 MBP.
Do you have another device you can check it with? Or how about booting into the Recovery options to check in Disk Utility? Or better yet, make a bootable USB Installer and boot into that and then check that drive in Disk Utility?
 

Yuck9

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Dec 9, 2014
87
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I had my 1st M1 MacMini replaced due to Apple wanting to replace it. @2nd one which is the one they replaced it with is doing the same thing again. (Started a week ago) which is after it awakes from sleep the screen is white with different colors flashing on it. It does it for about 20 secs then the screen goes black as it's trying to reset then keeps doing it. The monitor is a dell 32" and has done it on another monitor as well. One time it has fixed itself the other time the only way i got it to reset is by turning off the monitor and back on again. Big Sur 11.6
 

Aquaporin

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Jun 27, 2005
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USA
Do you have another device you can check it with? Or how about booting into the Recovery options to check in Disk Utility? Or better yet, make a bootable USB Installer and boot into that and then check that drive in Disk Utility?
I tried safe boot and recovery mode disk utility. The drive still locks up the Mac. I have a PC and I’ll check it. I’d guess the drive (or cable?) is bad, but I would not expect it to crash the OS. This isn’t 1998 USB.
 
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zarathu

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May 14, 2003
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I'm not sure if this is an issue I'm seeing with my M1 Mac Mini. But Photo breaks all the time. I'm always losing Photos and videos. From the Mac while it's syncing with iCloud services. Leaving me without photos and videos I once had.
Maybe not store your photos on "somebody else’s computer”, which is what the cloud is. You can buy a 3 TB usb drive that fits in your shirt pocket for less than $100 at Walmart.
 
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Aquaporin

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Jun 27, 2005
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I tried safe boot and recovery mode disk utility. The drive still locks up the Mac. I have a PC and I’ll check it. I’d guess the drive (or cable?) is bad, but I would not expect it to crash the OS. This isn’t 1998 USB.
It’s definitely the drive. I tried on pc and with different cable. What a bummer too.
 
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Bob_DM

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Nov 26, 2020
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Big Sur and M1 Mac? Seems like WD and Macs do not go along well.
I give Lightroom and Photoshop lessons on Mac mini’s 2018. I have quiet regular students with WD disks having mounting/read/write problems, so there seems to be indeed something between Apple and WD HDD drives …
 

anonymous888

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Nov 24, 2018
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I’ve got a few WD external drives, and one of ‘em has a long delay when I reboot/login until it’s mounted. Finder basically hangs until it does mount, and then all the rest of my startup apps continue opening all at once..I have no issues with this same drive on my other Catalina MBP. I’ve ran A repair on the drive, too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Even on my M1 MBA, Finder hangs a lot of times when connecting a HDD. The whole experience going in and out of folders just feels janky.
Same thing happens sometimes when I connect a 128GB Micro SD card. I was using Blackmagic to do a speed test and it stopped responding 2-3 times.

I only use an external SSD now. No problems in that except slightly lower speeds.
 
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Monad00

macrumors newbie
Dec 15, 2021
1
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Hey everyone, I have had my Mac mini M1 for about a year now. Since a week ago I have noticed the mouse pointer is lagging around the screen. I tried resetting everything, up to a point to taking it to apple to reinstall and wipe out everything. Today I have the same problem. The mouse pointer lagging around. Its become very hard to work with it.
Any help would be amazing. I am using a Logitech mouse and keyboard and have tried bluetooth and usb connect but the issue persists.
 

VitoBotta

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Dec 2, 2020
888
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Espoo, Finland
Hey everyone, I have had my Mac mini M1 for about a year now. Since a week ago I have noticed the mouse pointer is lagging around the screen. I tried resetting everything, up to a point to taking it to apple to reinstall and wipe out everything. Today I have the same problem. The mouse pointer lagging around. Its become very hard to work with it.
Any help would be amazing. I am using a Logitech mouse and keyboard and have tried bluetooth and usb connect but the issue persists.

I had the same problem with my Magic Mouse! Tried everything: various software tweaks and resetting stuff, different USB Bluetooth modules, even various things with screen refresh rates and anything else remotely related that I could find.

Eventually my wife asked me: what if you need a mouse pad? And that was it! The surface of my desk causes problems to optical mice, but it doesn't happen always which is the reason I didn't figure this out before. I bought a mouse pad 3 weeks ago and the problem has completely disappeared. No more mouse lagging/stuttering/jumping etc. :D
 

PatrikPC2Mac

macrumors newbie
Dec 24, 2021
1
3
So I’m curious to see what issues will be popping up with M1 Macs once more users start using them. Please post it here!

Here is what I just stumbled upon:

Got my first Mac, a MacBook M1 Pro 32 GB 11 Nov. Editing video and hear about how fast Mac is, it was not. Great working with a Mac but not much action for the dollar. Running only Fcpx plus Rosetta for some Plug ins. The Mac freezes frequently when using Fcpx, QuickTime, Safari etc. Support guesses Motherboard, perhaps SSD, we will see. Currently its in Bring repaired.
 

iciconnect

macrumors member
May 18, 2010
34
5
Florida
I'm having so many different M1 issues with my 16gb mac mini. I'm ready to destroy it! I hate using it now! macOS Monterey has made the hate official. I've taking this screen recording of me trying to access Time Machine. 😔

 

iciconnect

macrumors member
May 18, 2010
34
5
Florida
Here's another issue. But it's with Corsair's iCUE application. It always crashes and when it's not crashing it just stopping communicating to the connected devices. But the thing that's makes me believe it's the M1 mac mini is because of the flashing of the iCUE application. Each time my mouse goes over it. 😕

 
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