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M1 Pro/Max's GPU performance for gaming is quite poor.
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DirectX will still have to be translated to Metal, and that's the main bottleneck I suppose.
You still have to emulate the DirectX driver in the VM, which means using Metal.
I still remember Marathon from Bungie but then again I still have my Macintosh SE from 1987 in it's portable bag with the Apple rainbow logo
Isn't that the one that Steve Jobs showed back at the Mac intro keynote? I want one so bad. Probably should get a Classic Mac first...I still remember Marathon from Bungie but then again I still have my Macintosh SE from 1987 in it's portable bag with the Apple rainbow logo
I wonder if Larian made the Mac version of BG3 the lead version? They have done a lot of optimizations for that game that they have not done for the PC version (folks in the forum complain about the Vulkan version being janky compared to the DX11 version).
They would never do that. It is not their main market.
Also, Vulkan is almost always on the back burner compared to DirectX rendering, so that's pretty common. And I am unsure where you get the 'lot of optimizations they haven't done for the PC version'?
It is very unlikely to be their priority, as written above. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple hasn't offered them a small incentive to make sure it is sort of well optimized for Mac when it gets released, so they have something to actual show at keynotes, when it comes to gaming.
Mostly due to how the DX11 version runs better than the Vulkan version even though Vulkan is closer to Metal than DX11 is. Why bother making a Vulkan renderer at all if they are not going to make it not suck, lol.
why did you post a video from months ago that doesnt even have the m1 max or pro in it?32 core Max is similar to mobile RTX 3060 for gaming which is quite disappointing.
苹果M1 Max游戏测试：与RTX 3060笔记本相当
搭载M1 Pro、M1 Max处理器的新款MacBook Pro已经正式开卖，首批订购的用户也陆续收货。在此前的基准测试如GFXBench中，M1 Max的表现甚至能对位RTX 3080笔记本显卡，那么实际玩游戏情况如何呢？news.mydrivers.com
Also there isn't any difference between Roshetta 2 and native binary for the performance btw.
At this point, M1 Max's gaming performance sucks after all.
Pretty much this, the only reason I’ve been able to game the latest titles since my first intel mbp purchase in 2008 is boot camp. There was never a huge movement to release new games for the macos
I picked up a loaded mbp16 M1max 32gb model yesterday to play around with. Yes, it smokes my 2019 i9 mbp16 in Lightroom and photoshop. Heck even safaris snappier lol. But it absolutely stinks playing ffxiv which I’m into right now and my i9 mbp16 plays it really well. Even StarCraft 2 isn’t that great on it as it isn’t native.
At this point, I’m probably going to return it before the 14 days as I’m not ready to carry both a pc laptop and mbp on the road in order to work and play when my current mbp does both pretty well.
Holy crap, I just read this entire thread..some very smart people in here. Also some not as smart..
Im convinced the thread starter is AI programmed to argue that Windows PC is better no matter what is said or shown or explained.
Im convinced the thread starter is AI programmed to argue that Windows PC is better no matter what is said or shown or explained.
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Ah, sorry, I misunderstood then. Well, given the chance of having bootable Windows on ARM Macs is practically zero, I didn’t even consider that.
Windows is technically bootable on Apple Silicon, but this means that Apple needs to release all their proprietary hardware documentation and someone has to write and maintain a full array of drivers… not going to happen.
This is it right here. Mac is a niche product with a tiny userbase in comparison to PC, and I think developers are just not interested in spending their time developing for it for a minimal return.
I think if Apple wants to turn gaming around on Mac, I think the best way would be to dip it's feet into making some of it's own compelling games by signing a lucrative deal with a top developer to make something like Halo or Zelda franchise type Mac exclusive games to lure a significant amount of people and other developers to the platform. At this point, it's going to require a substantial financial investment by Apple to accomplish this, and I don't think they're really interested in it right now so things will most likely continue as is for quite some time despite the emergence of the M series.
We have native games now, unless you don’t count native ports like the Tomb Raider series, the Deus Ex series, the Metro Series, and the Borderlands Series?