Mac Pro Arrived! Pics Included

[shongohan]

I want to say NOW

Evidently!

>>>"Now need Universal game or Bootcamp game benchmarks!!!"

 

[Craigy]

Thats funny. Rev a buyers of the G5 dual 2ghz were smart. Even the dual 2.7 wasn't that much faster than the dual 2ghz. We got good use out of those Dual 2s. Now I am getting good use out of my quad 2.66ghz as well.

I have to totally agree. We bought a Rev A Dual 2ghz G5 and it has to of been the best buying decision we have made on the many macs we have bought over the past few years. The worst buying decision was a couple of MacBook Pros, which are proving to have bad build quality and many other issues. Still good tools though.

Macs help us run our business and give our customers what they want. You should buy when you need to - not wait because mass speculation on products months in the future. If a major product change is due in less than 3 months we wait. More than three months we don't pay any attention.

This works for us, but I understand that for a lot of people a Mac, especially a top end machine, is a huge investment and also something they use for enjoyment as well / instead of making a living. For us it's a tool, that usually pays for itself fairly quickly. A lot of businesses right off IT equipment after 3 years - Thank God for eBay!

 

[kanefsky]

Clovertown uses the same socket (LGA 771, I believe) as Woodcrest. You will be able to drop in Clovertown in existing Mac Pros if the Mac Pro's thermal (power supply and cooling) design can handle additional load. It's 65-80W for Woodcrest vs 80-120W (expected) for Clovertown. Mac Pro should be able to handle that but maybe not if it is fully loaded (4 graphics cards, 8 FB-DIMMs, 4 hard drives, 2 optical drives). I don't know how much headroom it has. Does anyone know Mac Pro's power supply rating?

I've built many PCs using motherboards that were specifically designed for do-it-yourself-ers. Even they almost always needed BIOS upgrades to support significant processor upgrades (i.e. anything more than a simple increase in clockspeed). I wouldn't bet a lot of money that Apple will supply us with a firmware upgrade that allows us to drop Woodcrest processors into a Mac Pro.

--
Steve

 

[Fadl]

I've built many PCs using motherboards that were specifically designed for do-it-yourself-ers. Even they almost always needed BIOS upgrades to support significant processor upgrades (i.e. anything more than a simple increase in clockspeed). I wouldn't bet a lot of money that Apple will supply us with a firmware upgrade that allows us to drop Woodcrest processors into a Mac Pro.

--
Steve

There are a few motherboards that supports the kentsfield CPU right now at the moment. So maybe the Apple board supports the clovertown too.

 

[7on]

I've built many PCs using motherboards that were specifically designed for do-it-yourself-ers. Even they almost always needed BIOS upgrades to support significant processor upgrades (i.e. anything more than a simple increase in clockspeed). I wouldn't bet a lot of money that Apple will supply us with a firmware upgrade that allows us to drop Woodcrest processors into a Mac Pro.

--
Steve

EFI might be able to handle new CPUs easier than BIOS though.

Never know...

 

[Capt Underpants]

*This may have been asked before, If so I'm sorry*

Does the mac pro still have that clear plastic side panel that can be substituted for the aluminum sidepanel?

 

[Fadl]

*This may have been asked before, If so I'm sorry*

Does the mac pro still have that clear plastic side panel that can be substituted for the aluminum sidepanel?

No.

 

[pc.Pwner]

More Mac Pro info!

This is a great link I found that talks about installing 4 seagate 7200.10's in the system and some other stuff.

http://www.barefeats.com/quad05.html

 

[aiongiant]

stumbled onto this link

shows the Mac Pro booting up for thoese whos curious such as myself =)

http://macmechanic.com/tips/?p=48

 

[milo]

I don't think there is a new model coming in January.
Maybe some updates to existing models, but according to Steve Jobs, the transition to intel is complete.

Transition implies updates to existing models. So the transition IS complete. But that doesn't mean they won't add new models.

I've built many PCs using motherboards that were specifically designed for do-it-yourself-ers. Even they almost always needed BIOS upgrades to support significant processor upgrades (i.e. anything more than a simple increase in clockspeed). I wouldn't bet a lot of money that Apple will supply us with a firmware upgrade that allows us to drop Woodcrest processors into a Mac Pro.

So far, the imacs and minis haven't needed BIOS upgrades to go from yonah to merom. I doubt anyone knows yet, but it may not be necessary to upgrade firmware to go from woodcrest (that's what's in now) to kentsfield.

 

[apfhex]

stumbled onto this link

shows the Mac Pro booting up for thoese whos curious such as myself =)

http://macmechanic.com/tips/?p=48

I hardly caught a glimpse of the loading screen before the desktop & Finder appeared. Fast. Most of boot time is in the pre-loading loading screen (the gray apple). Same on my PowerBook, but it takes a minute longer.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Thats funny. Rev a buyers of the G5 dual 2ghz were smart. Even the dual 2.7 wasn't that much faster than the dual 2ghz. We got good use out of those Dual 2s. Now I am getting good use out of my quad 2.66ghz as well.

So true. The Dual 2.0 GHz has been out forever! Lo and behold, it makes another appearance with Woodcrest.

I read the entire thread! I'm awesome like that.

Laslo Panaflex, congrats!

 

[milo]

So true. The Dual 2.0 GHz has been out forever! Lo and behold, it makes another appearance with Woodcrest.

The woodcrest machine is a quad.

 

[kitki83]

Iam going to buy it since I do get a student discount right now and need to take advantage of the free ipod. I think my brother has other incentives like Apple Credit card or something like that where he earns points.

Thanks for the info

I asked about the Apple bec this is my history of apple

When the G4s came out I got a iMac G3

when the G5s came out I got the First generation G4 Desktop

Now its time to be current XD thats why I asked whether this new processor is something I should take into consideration but mehh I do graphic design and i been appleles for a year soo iam sooo beind T_T

thank you

 

[jonnymorris]

I wonder if you would be so kind as to compile and run the benchmark program (attached) and post the results to the c-ray website (instructions for compiling are also there).

http://nuclear.demoscene.gr/crbench/

Should be interesting to see how it compares!

Just realised there's no contact details on the c-ray page, but if you could post the time in your original post here with a link to the c-ray benchmark page (above) that would be great!

 

[Chrispy]

Ok... this thread is getting kinda long so this may have been asked. If it has, can the OP or someone who read the answer please answer again for me?

How is the heat given out by the system? The G5 dual processor PM I had got so hot it quickly heated up my room. Does this system give off less heat? Thanks!

 

[p0intblank]

Ok... this thread is getting kinda long so this may have been asked. If it has, can the OP or someone who read the answer please answer again for me?

How is the heat given out by the system? The G5 dual processor PM I had got so hot it quickly heated up my room. Does this system give off less heat? Thanks!

I can't confirm this, but I read in another thread that it runs MUCH cooler than a dual G5. Can anyone 100% confirm this for us? Thanks!

 

[indiekiduk]

This is a great link I found that talks about installing 4 seagate 7200.10's in the system and some other stuff.

http://www.barefeats.com/quad05.html

I'd avoid the 7200.10 unless you like griding noises to shake your case - far too noisy because Seagate don't use Acoustic Management anymore. I'd recommend the Western Digital 320gb and you can enable acoustic management to 100% if you have a PC and the Hitachi downloadable hd tools cd.

 

[kevin.rivers]

I've built many PCs using motherboards that were specifically designed for do-it-yourself-ers. Even they almost always needed BIOS upgrades to support significant processor upgrades (i.e. anything more than a simple increase in clockspeed). I wouldn't bet a lot of money that Apple will supply us with a firmware upgrade that allows us to drop Woodcrest processors into a Mac Pro.

--
Steve

So you wait til Apple is selling said processor at that point os x should be supporting the cpu.

 

[puckhead193]

can someone comment on the case. Is it the same exact size as the PM G5? Is it as heavy as a PM G5. i would love to get one, but the size/weight is an issue in a college dorm

 

[kevin.rivers]

can someone comment on the case. Is it the same exact size as the PM G5? Is it as heavy as a PM G5. i would love to get one, but the size/weight is an issue in a college dorm

Dimension and weight are on the site.

PowerMac:
Size and weight

* Height: 20.1 inches (51.1 cm)
* Width: 8.1 inches (20.6 cm)
* Depth: 18.7 inches (47.5 cm)
* Weight (standard configurations): 44.5 to 48.8 pounds (20.2 to 22.1 kg) (6)


Mac Pro:
Size and weight

* Height: 20.1 inches (51.1 cm)
* Width: 8.1 inches (20.6 cm)
* Depth: 18.7 inches (47.5 cm)
* Weight (standard configuration): 42.4lbs (19.2 kg) (5)

So same size and a few pounds lighter.

 

[puckhead193]

Dimension and weight are on the site.

So same size and a few pounds lighter.

That suxs for me. I don't know how well it will fit in my dorm

 

[Chrispy]

I'm sure you can make it fit I'm still curious about the heat. The dual G5s just put out so much heat.. it would be nice if this fixed that issue.

 

[Laslo Panaflex]

Just realised there's no contact details on the c-ray page, but if you could post the time in your original post here with a link to the c-ray benchmark page (above) that would be great!

I can't seem to get it to compile, I think I am doing it right.

 

[dmw007]

http://www.macworld.com/2006/08/firstlooks/macprobench/index.php

No need Universal game or Bootcamp game benchmark!!!

Such awesome performance the Mac Pro has to offer, I might just have to go and buy one after seeing that!