triotary said:
Old G5 Setup: dual 2gig (rev A) 2.5 gigs of ram radeon x800xt
Back from dinner now, so ready to field some questions.
I am going to install windows now (boot camp, if it works) and through parallels.
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Old G5 Setup: dual 2gig (rev A) 2.5 gigs of ram radeon x800xt
Back from dinner now, so ready to field some questions.
I am going to install windows now (boot camp, if it works) and through parallels.
aswitcher said:I just need more than a Mini (big HDD - pref dual now Time Machine is coming out, good graphics card, decent processor (Core 2 Duo), decent ram slots (4 would be very nice for a cheap 2 gig or more) maybe even dual disc drives for superdrive and future bluray.
So half that Mac Pro spec for about half the money ... say $2500 AUD
Dont worry i know what you mean
Video card options
I've seen this asked about 100 times on different forums and have yet to see a response.
CAN YOU PUT A STANDARD PC COMPATIBLE Nvidia/ATI PCI-E VIDEO CARD IN IT?
I don't mean to be rude, but this seems to be a very popular question, with very few answers. I've been wondering it myself for months. Maybe no one knows yet, but if you do, please fill the rest of us in.
I've seen this asked about 100 times on different forums and have yet to see a response.
CAN YOU PUT A STANDARD PC COMPATIBLE Nvidia/ATI PCI-E VIDEO CARD IN IT?
I don't mean to be rude, but this seems to be a very popular question, with very few answers. I've been wondering it myself for months. Maybe no one knows yet, but if you do, please fill the rest of us in.
Brad Raple said:
I would if I had a pc-e video card to put in it, unfortunately my pc has an AGP card in it so that is a no go. Maybe I'll go down to my local best buy and pick up a x1900xt card and put it in, and just return it if it doesn't work, but that is not on the top of my proirity list, sorry.
Brad Raple said:
Jesus H. Christ. Read the ****ing thread. He's already been asked several times here already and it has been established that he does not have a PCIe card to put in there. I am sure you will find out soon enough. If you're in such a hurry, buy one yourself and throw a card in there.
Not a problem, I didn't mean to imply you should do anything like that, just asking ANYBODY if they have any idea. No one seems to know, and that's the big thing holding me back right now.
And the ECC RAM.
And the possibility they'll come out with the same thing, but with a single Conroe. I think dual xeons are beyond what I really need, or can even utilize.
If they had a single Conroe chip, with non-ECC memory, and it would take an standard video card, it would be on it's way from FedEx right now. An iMac would do me just fine, but I really don't need another screen. I know there are a lot of people in the same boat, but I don't know how long I can wait for something that may never come.
Something in the lineup is going Conroe before long though.
And the ECC RAM.
And the possibility they'll come out with the same thing, but with a single Conroe. I think dual xeons are beyond what I really need, or can even utilize.
If they had a single Conroe chip, with non-ECC memory, and it would take an standard video card, it would be on it's way from FedEx right now. An iMac would do me just fine, but I really don't need another screen. I know there are a lot of people in the same boat, but I don't know how long I can wait for something that may never come.
Something in the lineup is going Conroe before long though.
Hey Laslo, nice job getting the Mac Pro so soon.
Would you mind running a Handbrake test on it?
Don't need to rip an entire movie, just a few percent so I can get an idea of just how much the MP craps on my Mac.
1000kbps H.264
Full resolution
128kbps audio
AND
1000kbps MPEG-4
Full resolution
128kbps audio
I'd really appreciate the effort if you can spare the time.
Cheers.
Would you mind running a Handbrake test on it?
Don't need to rip an entire movie, just a few percent so I can get an idea of just how much the MP craps on my Mac.
1000kbps H.264
Full resolution
128kbps audio
AND
1000kbps MPEG-4
Full resolution
128kbps audio
I'd really appreciate the effort if you can spare the time.
Cheers.
Sorry. I've read the whole thread, and about a dozen others. I shouldn't have asked the question that way. I didn't mean for it to be directed at the OP, but rather out to anyone with an idea.
Also, I didn't realize that the size 5 font was so large.
Also, I didn't realize that the size 5 font was so large.
The Mac Pro and XServe are using the Intel Workstation/Server platform.Brad Raple said:
The FB-DIMM and ECC Ram were Intels choice, since those are common features in that realm.
As far as the card, it'll have to support EFI and be close enough to the Apple card to use the Apple driver.
Since the MacTels have a rather limited Intel driver base, the choice of cards will likely be rather small right now.
While you can run multiple cards, Apple noted that all the cards have to be either ATI or Nvidia -- not a mix of the two.
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Basically, the reports on PC cards should be out soon -- just wait. Or we will shoot you.
JNaut said:
I would wager to guess that one would only have luck on the cards that have os x drivers for them, i.e. the ones that are sold in the BTO options. I would be surprised if others worked in OSX, in windows maybe, but what good is that, might as well build a gaming PC.
phatpat88 said:
Wrong.
Wikipedia:
"The term was first used by Apple Computer in 1988 to refer to their 1.44 MB floppy drive. This replaced the older 800 KB floppy drive that had been standard in the Macintosh up to then, but remained compatible in that it could continue to read and write both 800K (double-sided) and 400K (single-sided) floppy disks, as well as the then-new high-density floppies. This drive was also capable of reading and writing MS-DOS formatted disks with appropriate software, unlike the 400K and 800K drives. This was made possible as the SuperDrive now utilitized the same MFM (Modified Frequency Modulation) encoding scheme used by the IBM PC, yet still retained backwards compatibility with Apple's GCR (Group Code Recording) encoding format, so it could continue to read Macintosh MFS, HFS and Apple II ProDOS formats on 400/800K disks."
You're thinking of the "SuperDisk/LS-120". Who's owned now?
Laslo Panaflex said:
I could be wrong with this one, but I know when installing the windows drivers for nvidia cards, all of the geforce cards use the same driver. Since apple is using a geforce card, Im hoping that this could mean that any geforce card is supported in osx. I highly doubt this is the case however but there is always room for hope.
wow man, that seems like an amazing machine. Im soo jealous of the performance in FCP. Rendering and exporting in a 1.6 GHZ G5 takes sometime right now
I 4th(?) that request.Chundles said:
At those settings I get ~ 5fps on my 12" powerbook. The results of his test are going to make that an utter joke.
The real question I have been wondering is "Will there be an upgrade path for the woodcrest chips to the kentsfield next spring?" I have my doubts about both the architecture and the socketing of the chips (please apple, don't solder). I would be on this in a heartbeat if I knew I could move to an Octo system in the spring just by buying new procs.
Tried to install windows via bootcamp, windows installs fine, but the mac drivers cd fails saying "hardware incompatible with software" looks like I have to use my PC for a little longer, or parallels (still haven't installed it).
I will run a handbrake test and post the results.
I will run a handbrake test and post the results.
tuartboy said:
You wouldnt want to go to Kentsfield as those are not MP capable and consists of two Conroes.
On the server/workstation we would be looking at Tigerton.
I dun think SLI is possible in the Mac Pro as it does not use a SLI compliant chipset. Intel chipsets do not support SLI. For software, i am not sure, hopefully it might be possible next time. Anyone knows wad chipset the mac pro is using? can't find it in the spec sheets.
tuartboy said:
I can state that will be a firm No, but you'll like my answer anyways...
Kentsfield is the quad-core version of CONROE, not Woodcrest. It uses the LGA775 socket insteaad of the LGA771 of the Woodcrest. It is also not capable of dual processor configurations- its a desktop chip and will debut as an Extreme Edition I believe.
What you DO want an upgrade for is Clovertown-MP, which is the quad-core version of Woodcrest, using the same LGA771 socket. I think it may be possible (the chips are socketed IIRC, not soldered, according to the info online so far), but they may need more cooling- it remains to be seen.
I think Apple will have an Octo soon...Clovertown is moving quickly.