MP 7,1 Mac Pro, Be honest what Display are you using ? If you can’t afford the XDR Display.

[ZombiePhysicist]

Did you even read the article?

"... Until now. Samsung’s MicroLED fabrication technique creates nearly-microscopic light-emitting diodes, enough that each individual pixel in the corresponding LCD screen can be illuminated or turned off, just like an OLED screen. In fact, Micro LEDs are so small that each individual cell of each LCD pixel—the red, green, and blue lights that allow variable colors to be displayed—gets its own tiny LED light. ..."

That is what MircoLED is.




This is goal post moving, wild hand waving at the current status of microLED in terms of mass production. Not whether it works or not. ( it does). Or pricing ( it is very expensive right now). Or how fast OLED will be shuffled out the door. ( there are still tube backlight monitors in some narrow places so OLEDs in some form will be around for a long time.)

Doing 75" screens in many sense is harder than doing something more reasonable like 4" - 13". It isn't that microLED placement behind every pixel gets easier at 75" unless making the pixels dramatically larger. But buy in large the 75" display is composed of much smaller assemblies that are cobbled together to get to 75" diagonal. Could stop sooner at shorter diagonal. The mass market "price anchor" for smaller screens is much lower though. That why these "ultra luxury" screens go bigger.
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I think the rumor was that MicroLED was coming to Watch more so than the MBP. The MBP might get a better mini-LED. MicroLED is still pretty far away ( 2020 is rather dubious as a timeline for that size. )

Watch with MicroLED

Apple Watch With MicroLED Display Could Launch in 2020

Apple is reportedly in advanced talks with Taiwanese display manufacturers to use microLED displays in its products as soon as next year, according...

www.macrumors.com

[ 2020 is more likely another tweak of the current watch tech. ]

Older microLED rumor timeline, again with smaller (than Mac usage ) screens.

Apple Developing Its Own MicroLED Displays for Future Devices

Apple has a secret manufacturing facility in Santa Clara, California, where it is designing and producing test samples of its own displays, reports...

www.macrumors.com

P.S. The Apple Watch being 20+ Million per year in unit is collectively a large number of microLED subassemblies to get the economies of scale cost reductions to start to kick in. They are 'smallish' screens but there are a lot of them. Much more than highest end MBP's. ( even if latest version of watch sales are 50% of that 20+ M it is still larger in terms of units. )

Yea I did read it and it says it doesnt exist outside some one offs that samsung showed at shows. So like I said, it doesnt exist in the market. That apple had a prototype of AirPower that never made it to market doesnt mean it exists in the real world where real people can buy it. Same here.

It's not goal post moving, it DOES NOT EXIST in the market. The over $1M wall is not a computer display. And at 146" it's about as micro as jumbotron is. And spare me your explanation of 75" production that a worse regurgitation of what was in the article. And thanks for the rumor rehash, similar to ones that talked about AirPower. In the mean time, when people need monitors TODAY there is no such thing as microled. If you want per pixel backlighting today you have exactly one option, OLED.

 

[Somian]

If a gynecologist orders a $8,000 dentist drill that probably isn't gong to fly as a business expense. The XDR is a high priced , narrow tool for a narrow market. "I needed a monitor for my headless computer" isn't going to pass any seriously real IRS audit.

The larger the sum heaped on a "tax shelter" business the more likely it will get audited and fail the audit. There are lots of things folks do that won't survive real scrutiny but the IRS doesn't chase down everything.

I don't understand. If it's not possible to write off the Apple display, what do video editors do that use Sony reference Monitors for $30k?

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

I don't understand. If it's not possible to write off the Apple display, what do video editors do that use Sony reference Monitors for $30k?

of course they do. Let’s just leave it at this. Do not take tax advice from an internet forum, and particularly a forum about Mac rumors. 😜

 

[goMac]

I think the rumor was that MicroLED was coming to Watch more so than the MBP. The MBP might get a better mini-LED. MicroLED is still pretty far away ( 2020 is rather dubious as a timeline for that size. )

I was surprised to hear about MicroLED on the MBP possibly this year. I'm kind of skeptical too. But Apple does sometimes pull rabbits out of hats.

It's pretty clear Apple is betting on MicroLED across all their products. It's just going to come down to when.

 

[tevion5]

Could you drop links for the adapters you used to hook up the 30" cinema? Thanks so much, and looks like a great setup!

Thanks man! Links here for the adapters I used:

USB-C to Mini-DisplayPort

Mini-DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI (you'll have to find this model 2nd hand)

 

[deconstruct60]

I was surprised to hear about MicroLED on the MBP possibly this year. I'm kind of skeptical too. But Apple does sometimes pull rabbits out of hats.

I suspect this is being stretched.

".. Apple is planning four to six products with mini-LED displays over the next two to three years, ..."
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/12/02/16-inch-macbook-pro-mini-led-2020/
( and the echo chamber of digitimes.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/12/03/mini-led-macbook-pro-ipad-pro-2020-rumors/ )


2-3 year period and somehow that the majority of it all lands before the end of 1 year. That doesn't pass the 'sniff test'. If it is so 'easy' to get to the first 2-3 why would it take almost as long to get to the last 1-2.

Kuo has got iPad Pros pegged in the Spring 2020 and then another in Q4 2020. Really? ( split 11" and 12.9 updates ? )

It's pretty clear Apple is betting on MicroLED across all their products. It's just going to come down to when.

This smells of the sapphire glass debacle. Eventually yes, it would make sense to switch everything over to micrLED. But first actually do one sized screen at volume production and see if the quality holds up at a specified price point. Not a volume scale test in some lab and then Yippe Ki Yay into multiple products.


We're still at "coming soon" for a Mac Pro in a rack container (and 3 years to fix a keyboard). Apple's "rabbit pulling" days are kind of long past. 2021 ( like the quote says 2 years, 2019 + 2 --> 2021 , is more believable given the track record of late. )
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Yea I did read it and it says it doesnt exist outside some one offs that samsung showed at shows. So like I said, it doesnt exist in the market. That apple had a prototype of AirPower that never made it to market doesnt mean it exists in the real world where real people can buy it. Same here.
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It does exist in several places. ( not just some sole Samsung "fantasy" project). I linked in the Japan Display Demo. LG did a demo last June . Plessy is dong demos at CES 2020. The notion that this tech is fragily dependent upon research in one single lab is fundamentally flawed. If look a the big picture, instead of just Samsung promos, there is much more going on.

MicroLED are more so in the chicken-and-the-egg stage. Where need a major buyer to move it to the next stage with the costs will get better with scale.

2020 is a bit early for just small incrementally more expensive displays, but Apple has some products that could push a higher price point if the screen was a position as a big value add ( or major battery saving to be a major change to the product usage.)

 

[Boomcha]

I'm a professional commercial advertising retoucher (going on 22 years) so colour accuracy matters to me a lot, I have been using an NEC PA271Q for the past year. Great colour, backlight bleed is very minimal as it should be, but screen size is only 27". I had to replace an old monitor that was showing its age in a hurry.

I'm planning at some point going to the new NEC PA311D monitor. 4K, accurate colour, 31" screen. I have mostly always used NEC monitors but I've had the pleasure of using Eizo's at other people's studios, etc.
I don't see the real added value of Eizo's. Definitely not better than the NEC.

I did try out a Dell 4K monitor before I went for the NEC I have now because price seemed decent. I tried the brand new Dell U3219Q and it was utter garbage, the backlight bleed was horrendous (photo attached). For those that don't know backlight bleed is best seen when you fill the screen with black and in a darkened room you can see the internal monitors LED's on the edge of the monitor shinning in). It was a decent monitor otherwise but the backlight bleed issue made it unusable for my needs.



It is unlikely I will get the new Apple XDR monitor.

People I know tried out the new BenQ series of graphics monitors and they seem to be loving them too. I ultimately like the NEC's because of my experience with their reliability and their colour management options with Spectraview is pretty great.

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

I suspect this is being stretched.


It does exist in several places. ( not just some sole Samsung "fantasy" project). I linked in the Japan Display Demo. LG did a demo last June . Plessy is dong demos at CES 2020. The notion that this tech is fragily dependent upon research in one single lab is fundamentally flawed. If look a the big picture, instead of just Samsung promos, there is much more going on.

MicroLED are more so in the chicken-and-the-egg stage. Where need a major buyer to move it to the next stage with the costs will get better with scale.

2020 is a bit early for just small incrementally more expensive displays, but Apple has some products that could push a higher price point if the screen was a position as a big value add ( or major battery saving to be a major change to the product usage.)

It exists the way AirPower exists. That was demo'd too. Thanks for reinforcing my point.

 

[Coyote2006]

Dell U3818DW 38" ultra-wide. No desire for the XDR, to be honest. I don't want a monitor that emits that much heat or requires active cooling.

Do you see any ghosting on this monitor?

 

[Coyote2006]

I have a UP3216Q on one of my computers as well. Excellent display.

Do you run it at default resolution? I guess then the fonts and icons are smaller, right?

 

[xraydoc]

Do you run it at default resolution? I guess then the fonts and icons are smaller, right?

It’s currently connected to a PC; I change the font scaling depending on what I’m doing.

 

[AdamSeen]

I cancelled my XDR after seeing some of the reviews coming out. Realising that for my use cases programming and some casual gaming, it will not be much better than the retina iMac screen.

So I went for the Samsung C49RG90 49-inch Super Ultrawide Curved Gaming Dual WQHD 1440p monitor.

Samsung LC49RG90SSUXEN 49" Curved LED Gaming Monitor - Super Ultra Wide Dual WQHD 5120 x 1440, 120Hz, Freesync, Gsync Compatible, HDMI, 2 x Displayport, USB, Dark Blue Grey

Samsung LC49RG90SSUXEN 49" Curved LED Gaming Monitor - Super Ultra Wide Dual WQHD 5120 x 1440, 120Hz, Freesync, Gsync Compatible, HDMI, 2 x Displayport, USB, Dark Blue Grey

www.amazon.co.uk

I lose the retina, which is a loss, but gain 120hz and a single monitor on the desk. Instead of the 2 monitors I have now: a 27inch dell and and an iMac 5k retina.

Screen arrives tomorrow, fingers crossed it's good.

 

[Coyote2006]

LG 38WK95C-W. Also considered a 49" but went for the 38" as it has more vertical Pixels (1600 instead of 1440). Got to get used to the curved screen but it's overall great to work with. Apple should release one in retina.

 

[Theophilos]

LG 38WK95C-W. Also considered a 49" but went for the 38" as it has more vertical Pixels (1600 instead of 1440). Got to get used to the curved screen but it's overall great to work with. Apple should release one in retina.

I'm using the same display with my 2013 Mac Pro (while waiting for the 2019 to arrive) and wouldn't think of replacing it. The ability to arrange 3 full size windows side-by-side is just too good to abandon. I also wish someone would release a Retina version, but text readability is not bad at all even without it.

 

[Coyote2006]

I'm using the same display with my 2013 Mac Pro (while waiting for the 2019 to arrive) and wouldn't think of replacing it. The ability to arrange 3 full size windows side-by-side is just too good to abandon. I also wish someone would release a Retina version, but text readability is not bad at all even without it.

What MP (specifications) did you order?

 

[Theophilos]

These are the basic specs:

3.2GHz 16‑core Intel Xeon W processor, Turbo Boost up to 4.4GHz
32GB (4x8GB) of DDR4 ECC memory
2TB SSD storage
Radeon Pro Vega II with 32GB of HBM2 memory
Magic Trackpad 2
Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad - US English

How about you? Are you thinking of upgrading?

 

[Coyote2006]

Yes, my 5,1 is running fine but it's about time to change. I first considered the MBP 16 but I want a quiet computer on my desk (otherwise I could keep my 5,1). I might go with:
12/32/1TB/5700 version. also adding the Promise Pegasus J2i. Should run for the next 10 years

 

[barnyard]

The Samsung Odyssey G9 can’t come out soon enough for me

 

[daveedjackson]

Having had problems since purchase of the 2013 trash can, I’ve had several displays. Currently have a Dell UP3216q which was a replacement for my up2715k when it broken on me. They replaced it with this one, and when I checked it’s quite a sizeable upgrade on what I had. Create a lot of design for tv and film so colour is really important to me for work. Not sure if I’ll get the XDR, have been seeing lots of poor results, and annoyingly have been unable to see physically in a store in London.

 

[BootLoxes]

Spend a very few bucks and file to create an LLC for your consultation skills. Now the monitor is a business expense. Done.

As an example only:

Georgia LLC | Swyft Filings

Georgia LLC

www.swyftfilings.com

Hello, I am in my early 20s and still learning about how things work so sorry for my ignorance but what does it mean when it becomes a business expense? I clicked the link and it talked about tax deductions but thats outside my scope since all I ever file are w2 forms. If anyone could shed some light I would be very grateful

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

Hello, I am in my early 20s and still learning about how things work so sorry for my ignorance but what does it mean when it becomes a business expense? I clicked the link and it talked about tax deductions but thats outside my scope since all I ever file are w2 forms. If anyone could shed some light I would be very grateful

A business expense is the cost of doing business and it reduces your taxes.

If apple could make an iPhone that costs them nothing to make and they sell it $1000, then they make $1000 profit, and have to pay taxes (say 25%) to the government. So they pay the government $250 and keep $750.

However, we all know you cannot make an iPhone for free. Let's say the costs for making one, including the aluminum, the chips, the labor to assemble cost apple $500. And they sell the iPhone for $1000. Well they get to "write off" the expenses of making the phone. So Apple will only get taxed on the $500 profit they made, and at 25% that would only $125 and they would keep $375 profit.

In much the same way, when you have a business, you need equipment (e.g., computer, monitor etc) to make it work. You need a computer to get your job done. And so that is an expense the business gets to write off.

 

[BootLoxes]

I see. So if I bought a $1000 item for the business, it would reduce my taxes?

 

[s66]

If I had not bought XDR, I'd have continued using the old Apple thunderbolts till I got them.
I've now an old Thunderbolt sittign next to one of the XDRs on my 6.1 trashcan (I only have one TB3-> TB2/1 adapter) and I must say seeing those side-by-side: I'm really glad to have gotten the XDRs

 

[OkiRun]

I see. So if I bought a $1000 item for the business, it would reduce my taxes?

Yes. And creating an LLC is cheap and easy to do. If you dedicate one room of your home to your LLC and Mac Pro, then all expenses related to that room are expenses to deduct. All office supplies you use for the LLC are deductible as well. And as you say, 'items' of any type that are legitimately used by you for your LLC and approved by the IRS are allowed. You might think that lap dance is important to the running of your LLC, but the IRS would not think so. Use common sense. An LLC structured company also shelters your family and your other life from any damages incurred by your LLC. That is a very good reason to have one. Not trying to give you business advice on a Mac Pro thread.... but a Mac Pro and XDR are allowed by the IRS for an LLC whose purpose is or has computer related business activity.

 

[BootLoxes]

Yes. And creating an LLC is cheap and easy to do. If you dedicate one room of your home to your LLC and Mac Pro, then all expenses related to that room are expenses to deduct. All office supplies you use for the LLC are deductible as well. And as you say, 'items' of any type that are legitimately used by you for your LLC and approved by the IRS are allowed. You might think that lap dance is important to the running of your LLC, but the IRS would not think so. Use common sense. An LLC structured company also shelters your family and your other life from any damages incurred by your LLC. That is a very good reason to have one. Not trying to give you business advice on a Mac Pro thread.... but a Mac Pro and XDR are allowed by the IRS for an LLC whose purpose is or has computer related business activity.

I wonder if there is a course on udemy on writing off lap dances.... I mean writing off business expenses. I feel like you just but a locked door in front of me and now I want to learn more on this topic so I can know more about whats behind that door