your a mean little bastard arent you... and YOU were the one getting all excited about it.macgeek2005 said:
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I'mAMac said:
I'm not mean, i'm just trying to point out, that new technology is always "just around the corner".
I don't think you would've recommended somebody to buy a Powermac in July "because, hey, new technology is always around the corner, nothing you can do about it, enjoy what you have". Same thing really applies to DX9 cards versus DX10; DX revisions only come along every three years or so, and the DX10 cards are most likely going to be significantly faster in both DX9 and DX10 games. What I'm saying is, this time the corner around which new technology resides is more significant than that corner has been for the last few years.
For starters, run your screensaver as your desktop. That should keep it 5% loaded all the time, and alleviate any chance of burn-in as well!kered22 said:Gotta do something to excercise that X1900.
Mr. Mister said:
However, lets remember that your card doesn't just stop working. A DX9 will run DX10 games pretty well I am sure. Now if you get the DX12 and you are on the DX9 card, there may be some issues there.
There is no sense in waiting 5 months for something, it could be delayed for all we know.
Now in the case of C2D, that is literally RIGHT around the corner. We are talking weeks, in that case it makes sense to wait. Why not? But wait for technology 5-6 months down the line? Come on. As has been said here before. You will be waiting a long time.
Too late! I have my menubar with my Gmail notifier, IP menu item, clock, spotlight etc all burned in up there. LOL I think the games will be sufficient to let the X1900 stretch it's legs.Mr. Mister said:For starters, run your screensaver as your desktop. That should keep it 5% loaded all the time, and alleviate any chance of burn-in as well!
Right, I think that buying an X1900 XT is a very good practical investment right now (for lack of choices if nothing else), but if you're somebody who wants to have a DX10 card as soon as there's a game that supports it, then you're going to be using a very expensive card just as a toy for the interim. Personally, I'm going to be buying a DX10 card next summer or later because firstoff, the prices will go down, secondly, there will be more Windows games actually supporting the damned thing, and thirdly, I want to use the GPU in my machine for more than half a year.
suneohair said:
What is C2D?
And I want to make something clear here, because you guys are making me not so sure anymore.
A Mac Version of a dx10 card will go into my Mac Pro, and run dx10 games wonderfully, with no problem right?
Or is there some other component of my Mac Pro which is going to become "obsolete" in 5 months?
macgeek2005 said:
C2D is Core 2 Duo. I was just using at that to make my point.
Yes a Mac version of a DX10 card will go into your Mac Pro and run DX10 games.
All you have to do is make sure your Windows has DX10 installed.
Of course there is something that will make your Mac Pro obsolete in five months. There always is.
macgeek2005 said:
Obsolete is a bit of a relative term, since it mostly depends on what you're using the system for and how adequately it meets your needs down the road. With Intels much faster pace of processor upgrades, this little quote I heard awhile back is even more true:
Your computer is one year old.
In dog years, it's seven.
In computer years, it's already dead.
The MacPros are upgradeable in pretty much every regard, so I think you'll be fine for awhile. Just need to keep an eye on the latest technologies, see how quickly Apple adopts them and see how 3rd parties respond (hopefully we'll see more 3rd party video card upgrades for example).
Can't cancel your order?
The reason is because of the idiots on Macrumors who keep changing their minds. Add more ram! No, take away the ram! Wait... maybe I should change the harddrive size? Should I get Bluetooth? Nah... I'll decide later and maybe change my order again... But first, I have to ask a bunch of strangers for advice on what I should buy. Oh, crap... I'll just cancel my order and try again later.
Then they call Apple and get pissed because Apple doesn't jump through hoops for them. WTF!?
Must be a nightmare for Apple with all of the indecision I read on these forums. I wonder if they are beginning to regret going to BTO.
The reason is because of the idiots on Macrumors who keep changing their minds. Add more ram! No, take away the ram! Wait... maybe I should change the harddrive size? Should I get Bluetooth? Nah... I'll decide later and maybe change my order again... But first, I have to ask a bunch of strangers for advice on what I should buy. Oh, crap... I'll just cancel my order and try again later.
Then they call Apple and get pissed because Apple doesn't jump through hoops for them. WTF!?
Must be a nightmare for Apple with all of the indecision I read on these forums. I wonder if they are beginning to regret going to BTO.
It's actually pretty futureproof overall, since it's EFI among other things. The two huge transitions right now are EFI and DX10 and the DX10 part should just be your card upgrade. After all, Mac OS X doesn't support DX9, but it works fine in Windows.
Hey, they're the ones who said there were over 5 million different configurations.THX1139 said:Must be a nightmare for Apple with all of the indecision I read on these forums. I wonder if they are beginning to regret going to BTO.
AHHH, What is EFI? What do you mean Mac OS X Doesn't support Dx9?
What exactly is dx10 and dx9?
If I don't install windows on my computer, is there any reason to upgrade to a DX10 card?
What exactly is dx10 and dx9?
If I don't install windows on my computer, is there any reason to upgrade to a DX10 card?
I was really unimpressed by that figure, a lot of the options seemed more barren than ever. A few things they can improve on:
-Choice of a really fast DVD-ROM drive with no write ability, a choice of an extremely fast CD writing drive with no DVD write ability (the Superdrive writes at 24x or so, I think there are CD burners that do close to or greater than 100x now)
-More GPU choices for the love of god
-Choose how you want your RAM (ie, 8 sticks of 512 or 4 or 1GB?)
-maybe even one versus two processors
-Choice of a really fast DVD-ROM drive with no write ability, a choice of an extremely fast CD writing drive with no DVD write ability (the Superdrive writes at 24x or so, I think there are CD burners that do close to or greater than 100x now)
-More GPU choices for the love of god
-Choose how you want your RAM (ie, 8 sticks of 512 or 4 or 1GB?)
-maybe even one versus two processors
Yeah, valid points. I wish they could have let me choose where my 512MB DIMMs are going, I'd prefer two on riser A and two on riser B but I know they're all going to be on riser A. If I see a bigger improvement in benchmarks, I'll probably move them myself.Mr. Mister said:
GPU wise, I think they have it about right. If they put in another high end Nvidia card (equivalent to the X1900 and around the same price point) it'd be perfect.
Having two consumer highend cards by two different brands would be nice but first it would be great to see something like a 7600GT.
DX9=DirectX 9macgeek2005 said:
DX10=DirectX 10
And sort of, yes. Macs don't have DirectX at all (be nice if M$ ported it to the Mac but that's about as likely as Steve Jobs running around the Apple campus in his skivies munching on a cheeseburger
), but OpenGL.None, but it's not like I'm going to be playing Mac games on this machine when I can run a full gamut of Windows titles. DX10 is a Windows thing but it also happens to be what all next-generation PC titles are built on.macgeek2005 said:
kered22 said:
Is that really what they do? Well shucks. Before I even turn on my Mac Pro, i'm gonna move 2 of my 512's to riser B.
Mr. Mister said:
How can you play windows games very well when the SATA performance in Windows is terrible..... Are you assuming that apple will fix this problem?
And by "But it also happens to be what all next-generation PC titles are built on", do you mean that it'll then affect Mac Games too?
It's already been fixed by the community, apparently you missed the hundred-odd links to a certain .Mac page?