MacBook Pro, Late 2016 EU Owners

[runeapple]

Update - after several days usage I am typing far quieter, infact i'd say quieter then my previous model - so it's definitely just a matter of retraining yourself when typing - also i'm typing faster and with better accuracy.

Haven't noticed any red graphics issues SO FAR since stopping using fullscreen apps.

Overall loving the machine, it seems to be handling everything i'm throwing at it so far

 

[Tim7]

What an absolutely amazing machine this is. I have a base 13" touchbar, and it's just incredible. The engineering alone just to fit everything in and still be this good is superb. The whole product just screams quality from the moment you start using it. It's genuinely a pleasure to use.

Looking forward to doing some work stuff tomorrow and using Word and Excel. Will be even better when they are updated for touchbar support too.

I only play 1 game which is Football Manager, and it runs that amazingly smoothly and fast at medium graphics which is great. On my old late 2013 retina MacBook Pro it was on low graphics and even then was very jumpy.

Well done, Apple!

 

[danieleilertsen]

I am having many problems with my macbook pro 15 with touchbar (Best spec).

1. Everytime I "log on" the display flickers. Found out it goes away if I turn off filevault.

2. When watching a movie, connected to a tv via hdmi adapter I got from apple, the picture goes away (it turns completely black on the tv) every couple of minutes. The black screen lasts about a half a second before showing the normal movie picture thats running. Tried different files. Happens every time.

3. The battery life is crazy short. Been using safari, on 100 prosent battery from start, and now 20 minutes later we are down to 73 %. 2 hours and 55 minutes left. Come on!

4. When I try to move a file in finder the track pad is not able to move it. Its like the track pad doesn't recognize my left finger when i am holdning it down.

Tried reinstalling sierra.

 

[matteomanfredi]

I feel like I have to clear up some stuff about FileVault since there seems to be a lot of fretting in this thread about things that aren't problems.

FileVault encrypts your entire boot disk, which means that the system can't actually boot from it until it can unlock it with a password. So, when you first boot up your Mac with FileVault enabled, what you're seeing isn't actually macOS, it's the Mac's EFI firmware with a copy of your desktop picture and the user list. It'll take your password, and if it's valid, will unlock your disk then start booting macOS.

Because you're not interacting with macOS, it'll look and feel subtly different than the real thing. And, as far as I'm aware, the firmware doesn't use the GPU to accelerate its UI (the firmware is really small and very limited in what it can do), so it'll feel slower.

So:

1. The progress bar you see after entering your password with FileVault is the real macOS booting — it's completely normal! Once macOS has booted, the firmware hands over the username and password you entered to macOS so it can log you in.
   
   
2. The little flicker you see is the firmware handing over control of the display to macOS — also completely normal, though less smooth than my old MacBook. Perhaps a future firmware update will fix it.

The boot process being different with FileVault is completely expected because the computer somehow needs to get a password from you to unlock the disk before macOS can boot. Apple tries to mask this (rather complex) handover procedure by pretending you're looking at a normal login screen, which it achieves pretty well considering the limitations of running in firmware.

I have FileVault enabled on my Touch Bar MBP and it behaves in the ways I described above — it's perfectly fine!

The only thing I noticed is a extreme drop in write performances, which is to be expected, but wasn't expecting a half!
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I am having many problems with my macbook pro 15 with touchbar (Best spec).

1. Everytime I "log on" the display flickers. Found out it goes away if I turn off filevault.

2. When watching a movie, connected to a tv via hdmi adapter I got from apple, the picture goes away (it turns completely black on the tv) every couple of minutes. The black screen lasts about a half a second before showing the normal movie picture thats running. Tried different files. Happens every time.

3. The battery life is crazy short. Been using safari, on 100 prosent battery from start, and now 20 minutes later we are down to 73 %. 2 hours and 55 minutes left. Come on!

4. When I try to move a file in finder the track pad is not able to move it. Its like the track pad doesn't recognize my left finger when i am holdning it down.

Tried reinstalling sierra.

For point 1. go back and read the post I quoted. For the battery are you sure it's not something else in the background?

 

[danieleilertsen]

The only thing I noticed is a extreme drop in write performances, which is to be expected, but wasn't expecting a half!
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For point 1. go back and read the post I quoted. For the battery are you sure it's not something else in the background?

What do you mean with the post you quoted?

Yes there is nothing else other then safari running. What do you think about 2 and 3?

 

[Grolubao]

Battery life sucks and my spacebar key is very spongy with no travel at all. I'm swapping it so another month waiting. Well, better get back to the previous thread then

 

[technoholic]

Battery life sucks and my spacebar key is very spongy with no travel at all. I'm swapping it so another month waiting. Well, better get back to the previous thread then

I tested every new MacBook in 2 London stores yesterday. All space bars are the same

 

[Tamagotchi]

I am having many problems with my macbook pro 15 with touchbar (Best spec).

1. Everytime I "log on" the display flickers. Found out it goes away if I turn off filevault.

2. When watching a movie, connected to a tv via hdmi adapter I got from apple, the picture goes away (it turns completely black on the tv) every couple of minutes. The black screen lasts about a half a second before showing the normal movie picture thats running. Tried different files. Happens every time.

3. The battery life is crazy short. Been using safari, on 100 prosent battery from start, and now 20 minutes later we are down to 73 %. 2 hours and 55 minutes left. Come on!

4. When I try to move a file in finder the track pad is not able to move it. Its like the track pad doesn't recognize my left finger when i am holdning it down.

Tried reinstalling sierra.

All those problems are very weird. Have you tried talking to someone from Apple? If you are within the 15 day period (I think you are) you can change it for a new one at Apple, or even give it back with a full refund.

 

[karbim]

Deleted, wrong thread, sorry.

 

[Grolubao]

I tested every new MacBook in 2 London stores yesterday. All space bars are the same

Yeah, maybe you're right... but don't you think some of those space bars where a bit more spongy than others? I mean it seems almost that there's no give at all

 

[Tim7]

Do you guys shutdown your Macs all the time or just close the lid?

 

[92elliot]

Do you guys shutdown your Macs all the time or just close the lid?

The only thing i miss (apart from magsafe) i used to shutdown from the power button when you would get the sleep, restart, shutdown menu but not the case with the new machine looks like you have to go via the apple log in the top left....unless i am missing a preference to enable that old behaviour?

 

[Daventry]

I haven't had any graphics card issues other than the screen glitch upon logging in when having FileVault on.

I'm loving it so far, the space grey colour is amazing!

Mine is 15" and feels via try light when compared to my old 2010 15" MBP.

I like the TouchBar - find it useful when switching between tabs in Safari and also the TouchSwitcher app.

Touch ID is awesome!

 

[92elliot]

i have not found many instances in using touch-id yet on the machine. Hopefully will come into play more when apple pay becomes more accepted as an online payment method.

 

[Brookzy]

Poll: am I mad for letting this little scuff (that I didn't cause) bother me?

 

[mckrogh]

Poll: am I mad for letting this little scuff (that I didn't cause) bother me?

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No - send it back, get a new. You paid premium for this product. So needs to be right.

 

[Brookzy]

No - send it back, get a new. You paid premium for this product. So needs to be right.

Hmm, it isn't ideal. But I've had it since Wednesday and have only just discovered it - I will probably have a hard time convincing them it wasn't caused by me. I think I'll stick with it. No guarantees another one won't have an issue too.

 

[Grolubao]

Guys, don't want to be a pain in the arse with my problem, but would be great to know if you too feel that the spacebar key is a bit weird and doesn't feel like the other keys. Thanks

 

[Jaekae]

Guys, don't want to be a pain in the arse with my problem, but would be great to know if you too feel that the spacebar key is a bit weird and doesn't feel like the other keys. Thanks

could be because its the only key thats alot bigger than the rest

 

[matteomanfredi]

What do you mean with the post you quoted?

Yes there is nothing else other then safari running. What do you think about 2 and 3?

The post in the first part of my original reply where there is an explanation of what happens in the login screen if you use FileVault.

There could be something else, like Spotlight, running in the background.

For point 2 I guess it could be a faulty adapter or cable. Check, if possible with another cable or try another computer without that adapter.

For point 4 (I assume you intended this) it could be a software bug or a problem with the touchpad, contact Apple or, better, go into an Apple Store.

 

[Tim7]

Might just be me, but my spacebar feels absolutely fine...

 

[nbizzle]

Hey guys,
is someone having problems mounting an external SSD on some of the ports? I'm using a Samsung T3, it only mounts on the lower left hand side port and on the upper right hand side one.
I don't get it...
I read somewhere that not all of the ports can deliver high speed TB3, but still they all should mount the SSD, shouldn't they?
SMC & NVRAM reset didn't help...

 

[npreq]

I feel like I have to clear up some stuff about FileVault since there seems to be a lot of fretting in this thread about things that aren't problems.

FileVault encrypts your entire boot disk, which means that the system can't actually boot from it until it can unlock it with a password. So, when you first boot up your Mac with FileVault enabled, what you're seeing isn't actually macOS, it's the Mac's EFI firmware with a copy of your desktop picture and the user list. It'll take your password, and if it's valid, will unlock your disk then start booting macOS.

Because you're not interacting with macOS, it'll look and feel subtly different than the real thing. And, as far as I'm aware, the firmware doesn't use the GPU to accelerate its UI (the firmware is really small and very limited in what it can do), so it'll feel slower.

So:

1. The progress bar you see after entering your password with FileVault is the real macOS booting — it's completely normal! Once macOS has booted, the firmware hands over the username and password you entered to macOS so it can log you in.
   
   
2. The little flicker you see is the firmware handing over control of the display to macOS — also completely normal, though less smooth than my old MacBook. Perhaps a future firmware update will fix it.

The boot process being different with FileVault is completely expected because the computer somehow needs to get a password from you to unlock the disk before macOS can boot. Apple tries to mask this (rather complex) handover procedure by pretending you're looking at a normal login screen, which it achieves pretty well considering the limitations of running in firmware.

I have FileVault enabled on my Touch Bar MBP and it behaves in the ways I described above — it's perfectly fine!

You're almost right. It's not the EFI firmware, it's a tiny boot partition
3: Apple_Boot Boot OS X 134.2 MB disk0s3

I'm tempted to mount it and find out what makes it tick, but not right now, I need to sleep >.>

 

[Jaekae]

Hmm, it isn't ideal. But I've had it since Wednesday and have only just discovered it - I will probably have a hard time convincing them it wasn't caused by me. I think I'll stick with it. No guarantees another one won't have an issue too.

Overtime you probably make some of those dings on your own, not worth waiting for a new one in my opinion
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Hey guys,
is someone having problems mounting an external SSD on some of the ports? I'm using a Samsung T3, it only mounts on the lower left hand side port and on the upper right hand side one.
I don't get it...
I read somewhere that not all of the ports can deliver high speed TB3, but still they all should mount the SSD, shouldn't they?
SMC & NVRAM reset didn't help...

The samsung T3 is usb3,0 speed, so it should work fine on all ports unless the ports are defective

 

[runeapple]

The shortcut? I'm the developer

Another idea, is when you press on an app which is minimised for it to display. Just like it would on the Dock, that would be epic