macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[Starplayr]

@Starplayr

Maybay its because of your graphics card, which is not supported in SL..
Have you upgraded your graphics card in your MacPro 2008 for example.. ?

Yes. It’s an NVIDiA Maxwell Titan X. It should run if I turn the web drivers off on the card. I do have my original NVIDiA card and I also have a AMD 7970/7950, i always forget which on thst is. I have two 2008 Mac Pro’s.

Parallels even has a hard time with 10.6.3 server which is bogus. VMware 8.5.7 Pro installs and runs it fine.

Will play around with it. I can stick my original NVIDiA card but I just hate doing that stuff. Will try the Radeon machine first.

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This may explain why some systems capable of running Snow Leopard can't. Could be the mode it is trying to startup in 32 vs 64. As mentioned before could also be the video card. Will try to rule that out. Won't mention much more on this subject as I know this is a Mojave thread. Someone could startup a Snow Leopard Server / Workstation thread elsewhere. If there is one or if someone starts one, I'll add my stuff there.

http://macstuff.beachdogs.org/blog/?p=134

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I will be great to see what Macs get supported again with Mojave. I am very pleased with High Sierra on my unsupported Macs.

 

[FlorisVN]

as far as i know, your nvidia maxwell is not supported in SL, and could cause a KP..
also 7970/7950 is not supported for SL, ML is the minimum as far as i know.
also 7970/7950 os not the original card for the macpro 3,1 (2008) model.

Please us original card like :

• ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (part number 630-9191 or 630-9897)
• NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600
• ATI Radeon HD 4870, offered as an upgrade kit
  Note: The Radeon HD 4870 card requires Mac OS X v10.5.7 or later.

please see info about original cards here :
https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht201805

 

[dosdude1]

Yes. It’s an NVIDiA Maxwell Titan X. It should run if I turn the web drivers off on the card. I do have my original NVIDiA card and I also have a AMD 7970/7950, i always forget which on thst is. I have two 2008 Mac Pro’s.

Parallels even has a hard time with 10.6.3 server which is bogus. VMware 8.5.7 Pro installs and runs it fine.

Will play around with it. I can stick my original NVIDiA card but I just hate doing that stuff. Will try the Radeon machine first.

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This may explain why some systems capable of running Snow Leopard can't. Could be the mode it is trying to startup in 32 vs 64. As mentioned before could also be the video card. Will try to rule that out. Won't mention much more on this subject as I know this is a Mojave thread. Someone could startup a Snow Leopard Server / Workstation thread elsewhere. If there is one or if someone starts one, I'll add my stuff there.

http://macstuff.beachdogs.org/blog/?p=134

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I will be great to see what Macs get supported again with Mojave. I am very pleased with High Sierra on my unsupported Macs.

Snow Leopard and Lion will NOT show any video on or work with graphics cards that are not flashed for Mac. In order to get any video when using Snow Leopard, you need a Mac EFI flashed video card installed.

 

[Badruzeus]

FYI, macOS Mojave 10.14 Beta 3 (18A326g) is released.

 

[kenau]

FYI, macOS Mojave 10.14 Beta 3 (18A326g) is released.

How can I download the macOS Mojave 10.14 Beta 3 if I have a macbook 13" late 11?
Or where I can download it?

 

[Micah Stahl]

What a rubbish move Apple. My mid 2012 MacBook Pro is now the oldest supported which makes me nervous.

It’s a joke seeing how much further back windows 10 supports. 10.14 should have come to all Macs that got 10.13.

Or at least get rid of the 2009 models. I just got a 2011 iMac thinking i'd get at least 2 years more support.

 

[Starplayr]

I have one original card. It

as far as i know, your nvidia maxwell is not supported in SL, and could cause a KP..
also 7970/7950 is not supported for SL, ML is the minimum as far as i know.
also 7970/7950 os not the original card for the macpro 3,1 (2008) model.

Please us original card like :

• ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (part number 630-9191 or 630-9897)
• NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600
• ATI Radeon HD 4870, offered as an upgrade kit
  Note: The Radeon HD 4870 card requires Mac OS X v10.5.7 or later.

please see info about original cards here :
https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht201805

I have one original card. It’s an NVIDiA 512MB card. Will use it if I can’t use the other cards with generic drivers.

 

[Starplayr]

as far as i know, your nvidia maxwell is not supported in SL, and could cause a KP..
also 7970/7950 is not supported for SL, ML is the minimum as far as i know.
also 7970/7950 os not the original card for the macpro 3,1 (2008) model.

Please us original card like :

• ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
• NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (part number 630-9191 or 630-9897)
• NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600
• ATI Radeon HD 4870, offered as an upgrade kit
  Note: The Radeon HD 4870 card requires Mac OS X v10.5.7 or later.

please see info about original cards here :
https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht201805

Snow Leopard 10.6.3 Client Installer booted on my Mac Pro 3,1 2008, Quad Core with the AMD Gigabyte Radeon 7970 3GB Video Ram, 14GB RAM. Installing on an internal SSD. Video on the installer is sharp and no lag or tearing. I also looked up that the Mac Pro 4,1 and Mac Pro 5,1 should be compatible with Snow Leopard. It may depend the amount of RAM, Video RAM or GPU as I believe Snow Leopard hardware wise was made for 16GB Ram or less. The 7970 works great on El Cap. it's okay on High Sierra. I was able to get rid of those pesky red and blue artifacts and get good 2d acceleration with the Radeon. It requires a tiny tweak to one Kext on the MP 3,1 as it's 3d timing is off and anything 3D flickers. That's mainly why I have my Quad Core will the AMD card and the Titan X with the Eight Core. The Titan X is killer on High Sierra. On the 3,1 though, Windows does not like to boot up, the 3,1 has some EFI issues with Windows 8 and 10. It will run it but it takes a lot of finagling. The AMD 7970 Radeon runs Windows flawlessly and its BIOS boot is good.

 

[FarmerBob]

All 11, 12 and 13-inch MacBooks and even latest mac mini models run slower than most iMacs of 2010 and 2011.

Read a couple Tech articles talking about people being able to put the newer OS's on their older machines and they pointed out that, for instance, the best machine to run this on is my Early 2008 3,1 Octacore. I have a 17" Early 2008 Macbook Pro that I have yet to play with this on. They said the processors run the new cleaner code faster and cleaner. So no use in buying one of the over priced "trash cans". So it looks like the older workhorses are the best. We knew that.

I went to Sierra (thanks to dosdude1), then High Sierra, but back to Sierra and my machine is cruzin' very nicely! I'm just curious about Mojave because of the Dark Mode. For years I have tried every add-on that would emulate a "dark mode" which I have to run in. Tired of getting blinded. But probably 90% of my software will not run in it . . .

"God I Love bucking the System!"

 

[Starplayr]

Snow Leopard and Lion will NOT show any video on or work with graphics cards that are not flashed for Mac. In order to get any video when using Snow Leopard, you need a Mac EFI flashed video card installed.

Both of my AMD 7970 and NVIDIA Titan X Cards are flashed for Mac. With the AMD, I get 2D video acceleration with AITSupport.kext loaded that comes with Snow Leopard. No 3D. No choice of resolutions, but will run native res. Did not get far with the Titan X or Parallels 13 with Snow Leopard. Both would kernel Panic. Snow Leopard IMHO runs well on VMWare Fusion 8 Pro. Only reason I am investigating this further is a person on here wants to run it Native. I will fall back to my Mac GeForce Nvidia 512MB card later to compare. So far though, SL screams with and SSD, 14GB RAM an the AMD 7970 Card. WiFi also works out of the box. I have a third party after market Broadcom card. Run 2nd round of updates. SL boots in about 5 seconds. It will run well on a 2006 Mac mini with an SSD as well. I have a few that I am updating now.

 

[parrotgeek1]

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[redheeler]

The update had to be done using a supported Mac, but is now running fine on the 2011 MBP. Beta 3, build 18A326g.

 

[kenau]

The update to be done using a supported Mac but is now running fine on the 2011 MBP. Beta 3, build 18A326g.
View attachment 768943

Where I can get the Beta 3 version? First I need to install the Beta 1 version in a MBP 11?

 

[TimothyR734]

Read a couple Tech articles talking about people being able to put the newer OS's on their older machines and they pointed out that, for instance, the best machine to run this on is my Early 2008 3,1 Octacore. I have a 17" Early 2008 Macbook Pro that I have yet to play with this on. They said the processors run the new cleaner code faster and cleaner. So no use in buying one of the over priced "trash cans". So it looks like the older workhorses are the best. We knew that.

I went to Sierra (thanks to dosdude1), then High Sierra, but back to Sierra and my machine is cruzin' very nicely! I'm just curious about Mojave because of the Dark Mode. For years I have tried every add-on that would emulate a "dark mode" which I have to run in. Tired of getting blinded. But probably 90% of my software will not run in it . . .

"God I Love bucking the System!"

if you go to mackungfu.org Apple had a preview of dark mode like in MacOS Mojave it was called NFSWindowDarkChocolate open the terminal enter defaults write -g NSWindowsDarkChocolate -bool TRUE then make sure you go to system preferences then general enable dark menu and dock it works really well but somethings are hard to read as the fonts blend in you might have to go to mackungfu.ore and copy and paste to the terminal
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Where I can get the Beta 3 version? First I need to install the Beta 1 version in a MBP 11?

if you go the the first page of this forum there is dosdude's MacOS Mojave patcher when you install it open it up under the tools section you can download MacOS Mojave

 

[kenau]

if you go to mackungfu.org Apple had a preview of dark mode like in MacOS Mojave it was called NFSWindowDarkChocolate open the terminal enter defaults write -g NSWindowsDarkChocolate -bool TRUE then make sure you go to system preferences then general enable dark menu and dock it works really well but somethings are hard to read as the fonts blend in you might have to go to mackungfu.ore and copy and paste to the terminal
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if you go the the first page of this forum there is dosdude's MacOS Mojave patcher when you install it open it up under the tools section you can download MacOS Mojave

I already tried this patcher, but unfortunately, it was unsuccessful.
But I did the download of the beta 1 version from thepiratebay.org , but when I tried the patcher I received the following error:

How can I fix it? Can you help me?

 

[nekton1]

I already tried this patcher, but unfortunately, it was unsuccessful.
But I did the download of the beta 1 version from thepiratebay.org , but when I tried the patcher I received the following error:

How can I fix it? Can you help me?

[doublepost=1530668605][/doublepost]16 GB or bigger USB stick?
Also not necessary to dl from PB. The tools menu in the app can download straight from Apple.

 

[kenau]

I couldn't download the app straight from Apple using this patcher, I received a message in my App Store that my computer doesn't support this version of MacOS, so I downloaded from PB. Regarding the pendrive, I think that the software was trying to access the file in the mounted app. As the mounted app has only 5,7 Gb I think that this is the trouble. I'm trying now to copy the file to my SSD, or I will try to copy to an external HD and try the patcher again.

 

[TimothyR734]

I have a 2009 iMac I was able to download MacOS Mojave even though the patcher tool said my Mac was compatible and I created a usb stick using dosdude's patcher

 

[chris1111]

You can used the script here by MR Greg Neagle
Thanks mr Greg Neagle
https://github.com/munki/macadmin-scripts/blob/master/installinstallmacos.py

 

[kenau]

Can I make a DVD with this version of the MacOS Mojave? How can I do that?

 

[Starplayr]

if you go to mackungfu.org Apple had a preview of dark mode like in MacOS Mojave it was called NFSWindowDarkChocolate open the terminal enter defaults write -g NSWindowsDarkChocolate -bool TRUE then make sure you go to system preferences then general enable dark menu and dock it works really well but somethings are hard to read as the fonts blend in you might have to go to mackungfu.ore and copy and paste to the terminal
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if you go the the first page of this forum there is dosdude's MacOS Mojave patcher when you install it open it up under the tools section you can download MacOS Mojave

I do not recommend defaults write -g NSWindowsDarkChocolate -bool TRUE on High Sierra. Some things just do not work right. Apple Mail is a good example. This appears to be experimental and its not a good replacement for what Mojave offers.

 

[TimothyR734]

I do not recommend defaults write -g NSWindowsDarkChocolate -bool TRUE on High Sierra. Some things just do not work right. Apple Mail is a good example. This appears to be experimental and its not a good replacement for what Mojave offers.

just APFS was experimental in MacOS Sierra never had issues with APFS when I enabled it in macOS Sierra

 

[Starplayr]

Here is good news for Mac Pro 5,1 2010/2012 users:

Resolved -> When attempting to install macOS Mojave on Mac Pro mid 2010 and mid 2012 models you might see an error message ‘This version of macOS 10.14 cannot be installed on this computer.
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just APFS was experimental in MacOS Sierra never had issues with APFS when I enabled it in macOS Sierra

NSWindowsDarkChocolate mode is experimental, along with 2-3 other Dark Mode mods that have been around for awhile now like DoctorDark. I'd wait for Mojave for much better User Experience. Apple never finished NSWindowsDarkChocolate. It's incomplete. Not every part of macOS High Sierra supports it. If you're ok with partial support and a partially good user experience by all means run it. You get a good user preferences panel and a nice terminal window. You also get bad text contrast as a large portion of the OS has white text next to light gray and sometimes white text on white. I believe Safari and Chrome both had this in its address bar. Composing in Apple Mail is also horrid. A lot of the Finder views don't support it either. Poor contrast in Headings in the Finder. White areas in some views.

 

[dosdude1]

I already tried this patcher, but unfortunately, it was unsuccessful.
But I did the download of the beta 1 version from thepiratebay.org , but when I tried the patcher I received the following error:

How can I fix it? Can you help me?

Use Beta 2 or later. Use the "Download macOS" option in the Tools menu to get the latest release from Apple.

 

[bunnspecial]

don’t know why my Eight 2008 Mac Pro will not install Snow Leopard because my quad core 2008 came with it preinstalled so I know it will run it. Will do some testing with it and see if I can get it working natively. I might try installing 10.6.3 upgrade to 10.6.8 and clone it to the Mac Pro. I am guessing that latest will run.

I think someone else may have given you insight into this, but I'm running the original Radeon 5770 in my 5,1. Short of the Radeon 5870, this is one of the best SL-compatible GPUs. It's fine through High Sierra and even in Windows 10, but is a no-go for Mojave.

I think I used a retail disk to install it-I run both Snow Leopard and High Sierra on PCIe SSDs(128gb from an MBA for SL, 256gb from a trash can for HS). There again, I upgraded to dual hex 3.06s(X5675) which were the best factory processors for the 5,1. I have a pair of X5690s(hex 3.46) but unfortunately I think one of them has an issue and they've not cooperated at all. I sent one back for exchange, but in retrospect should have sent both as I think I may have sent the wrong one back. It's been too long now and that was $250 wasted(the X5675s set me back a much easier to swallow $80 for the pair and have been flawless). Even with the stock quad 2.4s(E5620) SL ran off the PCIe drive so fast that it seemed to read my thoughts.

In any case, as I said I'm pretty sure I used a retail disk. The newest retail disk is 10.6.3, and this can cause issues with some newer systems as 10.6.3 doesn't support everything. You can, for example, install it on a late 2011 MBP even though those shipped with Lion, but the easiest route is to install on another system that can run 10.6.3 then update to 10.6.8 on that system and clone.

When I permanently switch everything that the dual 2.7 G5 is doing over to the 5,1, my plan is actually to transplant the OS install to the 5,1 using a Mac Pro 1,1 as a "bridge" machine. A 1,1 can boot off an APM drive just fine, so I can toss the G5 drive in it, clone to the SSD, then install SL on the 1,1 and transplant the SSD back to the 5,1.