macOS 10.15 Catalina on Unsupported Macs

[Vyzantion]

I am wondering yet about another thing: Officialy, Catalina does not run 32 bit apps. Practicly, there seem to be some Adobe 32 software that is still running, meaning that Apple granted at least them (and probably other developers) a green light to run their 32 apps, until they fully transitions to 64 bit.
Do you think that, if there is still support for 32 bit apps, with a block for all apps except a few, that someone from here could find a way to unlock this support for all apps?

 

[dosdude1]

I am wondering yet about another thing: Officialy, Catalina does not run 32 bit apps. Practicly, there seem to be some Adobe 32 software that is still running, meaning that Apple granted at least them (and probably other developers) a green light to run their 32 apps, until they fully transitions to 64 bit.
Do you think that, if there is still support for 32 bit apps, with a block for all apps except a few, that someone from here could find a way to unlock this support for all apps?

The Adobe apps being used are NOT 32-bit, and there is no "blocking" being done of other 32-bit apps. If the binary does not have a 64-bit section, Catalina cannot run it.

 

[FlorisVN]

I am wondering yet about another thing: Officialy, Catalina does not run 32 bit apps. Practicly, there seem to be some Adobe 32 software that is still running, meaning that Apple granted at least them (and probably other developers) a green light to run their 32 apps, until they fully transitions to 64 bit.
Do you think that, if there is still support for 32 bit apps, with a block for all apps except a few, that someone from here could find a way to unlock this support for all apps?

If this is true, would be awesome if someone can find away..

 

[Vyzantion]

If this is true, would be awesome if someone can find away..

dosdude1 says that Adobe apps are all 64 bit. If he says so, it is unlikely to be different. I would really like to run some old apps on Catalina, myself, but I can handle it, if is technical impossible.

 

[GSXB]

Could someone answer a query for me what’s the usblegacy. kext for and is there a modified AppleHDA .kext if so what’s it for ????
As I think its interfering with lilu,innie,appleALC and whatevergreen kexts any ideas

 

[dosdude1]

Could someone answer a query for me what’s the usblegacy. kext for and is there a modified AppleHDA .kext if so what’s it for ????
As I think its interfering with lilu,innie,appleALC and whatevergreen kexts any ideas

LegacyUSBInjector adds support for USB on unsupported Macs. It is needed under all circumstances, and is NOT "interfering" with the kexts you're using. There is a patched AppleHDA included, but without it, you'll get no audio. It also is NOT "interfering" with those Hackintosh kexts (not sure why you're installing these anyways).

 

[jhowarth]

Could someone answer a query for me what’s the usblegacy. kext for and is there a modified AppleHDA .kext if so what’s it for ????
As I think its interfering with lilu,innie,appleALC and whatevergreen kexts any ideas

The LegacyUSBInjector.kext provides support for the older usb chipsets no longer supported in the stock usb frameworks. Without that you won't have a functional usb mouse or keyboard at boot. The AppleHDA.kext is sound support for the depreciated sound chip sets. So you'll have no audio with it.

 

[GSXB]

LegacyUSBInjector adds support for USB on unsupported Macs. It is needed under all circumstances, and is NOT "interfering" with the kexts you're using. There is a patched AppleHDA included, but without it, you'll get no audio. It also is NOT "interfering" with those Hackintosh kexts (not sure why you're installing these anyways).

Lilu with innie, applealc and whatevergreen worked on DP7 and gave me internal pcie m.2
and also added HDMI audio

 

[RosesInTheWind]

Mind uploading your Xcode files? I know nothing about machine learning stuff and I'd rather not learn just to test a crash.

Here is some basic training data for Create ML.

To Reproduce:

1. Download Xcode
2. Open Create ML (search in spotlight)
3. New Document, choose “Object Detector”
4. Either drag in or Choose->SelectFiles the “Training Data” folder
5. For me it says “Model input has issues”, and there is a crash report in the console showing MLRecipeExecutionService crash

 

[Lucky736]

Having a bit of an issue with the latest Catalina patcher 1.1.2 and the latest developer version.

It keeps failing to create the USB drive. Tried OS Extended and APFS just to see if it would make a difference.

Tried downloading the patcher and OS again, same error...... thoughts?

 

[avz]

Thank you for the assist, I appreciate it a lot.

I have the ROM all set.

So the patcher has the option to apply no patches.... what service is it providing in that scenario? I am thinking the main thing it does in that scenario is provide access to catalina download from Apple.

I pretty much have Catalina setup now with what I use it for, such as VMWare Fusion running a four VMs of Debian Linux. They are used for web development, doing the coding on them and pushing the code to live Debian servers owned by my clients.

Plus a few other softwares...

So, to get to the SIP-enabled setup, do I have to start with a new installation of Cataline, either wiping the volume I am running now or maknig a new one?

Last queston, I don't know what it means or how to do the NVRAM "no compat check", needed for Wifi and BLuetooth? I am running original equipment for wifi and bluetooth. I can live ok without wifi, because I run ethernet into the heavy box. I do not move it from place to place, buttttttttttttt... I can imagine that could get ugly too. I'd say it is lame that I am runnng old wifi/bluetooth and should upgrade them, but i am going to need to get a better handle on how that fits into the patch/no-patch and NVRAM no compat check.

In the grand scheme, small small issues compared to what some have had to deal with.

Regarding night shift, well, not night shift but dynamic wall paper in mojave (still in Catalina if you pick the mojave wallpaper, vs.the "automatic" light to dark in Catalina, this is such a small issue, but Apple kicked the pooch on this as far as i am concerned. I love the dynamic changes in the wall paper but i want a dark theme 24 hours a day not just at night. Catalina does not support that with the catalina wallpaper. To get Catalina wallpaper to do the light shifting the way Mojave does, you have to have light theme during the day. I hate that.

Now the other last question... looking for an inkling of what this is about, the icons associated with usernames.

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Because being able to actually install the OS on an unsupported system is the main benefit of the patcher. The patches themselves can be installed manually if you followed the threads close enough.

 

[dosdude1]

Having a bit of an issue with the latest Catalina patcher 1.1.2 and the latest developer version.

It keeps failing to create the USB drive. Tried OS Extended and APFS just to see if it would make a difference.

Tried downloading the patcher and OS again, same error...... thoughts?

This is a glitch that only occurs in Catalina DP8, as they broke something with ASR. I expect this to be fixed in the next Catalina release (so I will not be modifying my program at this time). What you can do for now is either create an installer drive using a previous macOS version, or patch my program to bypass that check. To bypass the check, simply download this script, and run it like so using Terminal (after copying Catalina Patcher outside of the DMG it's distributed in):

./catpatch.sh /path/to/macOS\ Catalina\ Patcher.app/Contents/Resources/patcherd

Then, the tool will complete successfully.

 

[bmillz]

This is a glitch that only occurs in Catalina DP8, as they broke something with ASR. I expect this to be fixed in the next Catalina release (so I will not be modifying my program at this time). What you can do for now is either create an installer drive using a previous macOS version, or patch my program to bypass that check. To bypass the check, simply download this script, and run it like so using Terminal (after copying Catalina Patcher outside of the DMG it's distributed in):

./catpatch.sh /path/to/macOS\ Catalina\ Patcher.app/Contents/Resources/patcherd

Then, the tool will complete successfully.

Geez Colin, where were you yesterday?!? I racked my head for HOURS trying to figure out why I couldn’t create a bootable USB for my MBA! Eventually I gave up and did it all on my 2012 MBP (which conveniently was on an older beta) and it worked flawlessly. As always, thanks for all your hard work!

 

[Lucky736]

This is a glitch that only occurs in Catalina DP8, as they broke something with ASR. I expect this to be fixed in the next Catalina release (so I will not be modifying my program at this time). What you can do for now is either create an installer drive using a previous macOS version, or patch my program to bypass that check. To bypass the check, simply download this script, and run it like so using Terminal (after copying Catalina Patcher outside of the DMG it's distributed in):

./catpatch.sh /path/to/macOS\ Catalina\ Patcher.app/Contents/Resources/patcherd

Then, the tool will complete successfully.

Thank You! I thought maybe it was me, I just couldn't make sense of it as it seemed like the stick had partitioned etc okay but was scratching my head a bit. If this was covered already I missed it and I apologize.

 

[richgoga]

@dosdude1 Stellar work as always...
Is there a way to disable SIP completely?
I'm trying a script to get Sidecar working, but it's failing with a SIP is enabled error.
Can't boot to recovery due to -no_compat_check boot arg not working with recovery mode

 

[Flacko]

Thank you for the assist, I appreciate it a lot.

I have the ROM all set.

So the patcher has the option to apply no patches.... what service is it providing in that scenario? I am thinking the main thing it does in that scenario is provide access to catalina download from Apple.

I pretty much have Catalina setup now with what I use it for, such as VMWare Fusion running a four VMs of Debian Linux. They are used for web development, doing the coding on them and pushing the code to live Debian servers owned by my clients.

Plus a few other softwares...

So, to get to the SIP-enabled setup, do I have to start with a new installation of Cataline, either wiping the volume I am running now or maknig a new one?

Last queston, I don't know what it means or how to do the NVRAM "no compat check", needed for Wifi and BLuetooth? I am running original equipment for wifi and bluetooth. I can live ok without wifi, because I run ethernet into the heavy box. I do not move it from place to place, buttttttttttttt... I can imagine that could get ugly too. I'd say it is lame that I am runnng old wifi/bluetooth and should upgrade them, but i am going to need to get a better handle on how that fits into the patch/no-patch and NVRAM no compat check.

In the grand scheme, small small issues compared to what some have had to deal with.

Regarding night shift, well, not night shift but dynamic wall paper in mojave (still in Catalina if you pick the mojave wallpaper, vs.the "automatic" light to dark in Catalina, this is such a small issue, but Apple kicked the pooch on this as far as i am concerned. I love the dynamic changes in the wall paper but i want a dark theme 24 hours a day not just at night. Catalina does not support that with the catalina wallpaper. To get Catalina wallpaper to do the light shifting the way Mojave does, you have to have light theme during the day. I hate that.

Now the other last question... looking for an inkling of what this is about, the icons associated with usernames.

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Hi Dan, I see you have already had a response from some members. Here is some more for you to ponder. The cMP5.1 now joins the merry band of "unsupported" Macs but is in the "fortunate" position to be able to run Catalina patched or unpatched. The choice is yours - however this may change as the betas progress! If you do decide to go unpatched then here is a link for you as it is more relevant and shorter than this thread.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...to-make-catalina-work-with-macpro5-1.2183978/

This will answer many of your questions. If you decide on the patcher route then keep to this thread.

The patcher USB also is a great recovery tool if anything goes wrong. In betas and multiple systems it is always useful to have the latest patcher USB to hand. It can also be used to patch the other unsupported Macs I have. And it is an excellent way of getting Catalina if you do not have a supported Mac.

If you go the unpatched route then yes, installing afresh is the way to go. Do not install over a patched system as you may find some elements remain. Also migrating from a patched system can also transfer some unneeded files. So the best way would be to to a clean install and migrate from Mojave. Or you could make clone of your present Mojave drive and then install Catalina over this. This is what I have done for B8 and all is fine. I am assuming your Mojave is a "vanilla" version as the cMP5.1 runs this natively.

To confirm, unpatched the old wifi will not work as Apple has removed the driver for BCM94322MC (AirPortBrcm4331.kext) from Catalina but the Bluetooth will be fine.

Finally, we are still very much in the beta phase so many things are not quite right yet and I would expect wall papers etc to change as Catalina progresses. Supported Macs are also seeing problems. My advice is to keep important work etc on Mojave for now and feel free to experiment with Catalina on another drive. One advantage of the cheese grater Macs are the number of internal drives we can have. All the best.

 

[jackluke]

@dosdude1 Stellar work as always...
Is there a way to disable SIP completely?
I'm trying a script to get Sidecar working, but it's failing with a SIP is enabled error.
Can't boot to recovery due to -no_compat_check boot arg not working with recovery mode

You can try to boot from the USB Installer that acts also as a Recovery and re-disable SIP from a Terminal there, but apart this, I doubt that script to enable Sidecar will work, especially on unsupported Catalina Mac, I guess Sidecar simply won't work.

 

[dosdude1]

@dosdude1 Stellar work as always...
Is there a way to disable SIP completely?
I'm trying a script to get Sidecar working, but it's failing with a SIP is enabled error.
Can't boot to recovery due to -no_compat_check boot arg not working with recovery mode

SIP is disabled, I can tell by your csrutil status output. It will ALWAYS remain disabled when running Catalina Patcher. Looks like the issue here is the SIP check in the script you're using.

 

[haralds]

Anybody seeing sleep issues with DP8 on Mac Po 5,1. Worked ok on DP7 - at least when forced from menu.
Working perfectly on Mojave with more stuff running.

 

[timthomason]

Geez Colin, where were you yesterday?!? I racked my head for HOURS trying to figure out why I couldn’t create a bootable USB for my MBA! Eventually I gave up and did it all on my 2012 MBP (which conveniently was on an older beta) and it worked flawlessly. As always, thanks for all your hard work!

i had the same problem, ii just used the usb install to update the drivers on DP8 on my mbp

 

[ASentientBot]

Thank you for the assist, I appreciate it a lot.

I have the ROM all set.

So the patcher has the option to apply no patches.... what service is it providing in that scenario? I am thinking the main thing it does in that scenario is provide access to catalina download from Apple.

I pretty much have Catalina setup now with what I use it for, such as VMWare Fusion running a four VMs of Debian Linux. They are used for web development, doing the coding on them and pushing the code to live Debian servers owned by my clients.

Plus a few other softwares...

So, to get to the SIP-enabled setup, do I have to start with a new installation of Cataline, either wiping the volume I am running now or maknig a new one?

Last queston, I don't know what it means or how to do the NVRAM "no compat check", needed for Wifi and BLuetooth? I am running original equipment for wifi and bluetooth. I can live ok without wifi, because I run ethernet into the heavy box. I do not move it from place to place, buttttttttttttt... I can imagine that could get ugly too. I'd say it is lame that I am runnng old wifi/bluetooth and should upgrade them, but i am going to need to get a better handle on how that fits into the patch/no-patch and NVRAM no compat check.

In the grand scheme, small small issues compared to what some have had to deal with.

Regarding night shift, well, not night shift but dynamic wall paper in mojave (still in Catalina if you pick the mojave wallpaper, vs.the "automatic" light to dark in Catalina, this is such a small issue, but Apple kicked the pooch on this as far as i am concerned. I love the dynamic changes in the wall paper but i want a dark theme 24 hours a day not just at night. Catalina does not support that with the catalina wallpaper. To get Catalina wallpaper to do the light shifting the way Mojave does, you have to have light theme during the day. I hate that.

Now the other last question... looking for an inkling of what this is about, the icons associated with usernames.

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Are you on the latest beta? Mine went back to normal with DP8.

 

[mdwsta4]

Haven't found anything in 176 pages of this thread, but can anyone confirm is Adobe Photoshop CS5 still works?

 

[dosdude1]

Haven't found anything in 176 pages of this thread, but can anyone confirm is Adobe Photoshop CS5 still works?

No, it will not, as the CS5 suite is 32-bit only.

 

[mdwsta4]

No, it will not, as the CS5 suite is 32-bit only.

Thank you. Looks like I'll need to find a download of CS6 then. iirc, that version was 64 bit compatible. If only Adobe would let us purchase software again. I've been holding onto CS5 and LR6 as long as I can

 

[jhowarth]

Thank you. Looks like I'll need to find a download of CS6 then. iirc, that version was 64 bit compatible. If only Adobe would let us purchase software again. I've been holding onto CS5 and LR6 as long as I can

Or see if Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo might cover your needs.