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Yet another perfect update with the CatalinaOTAswufix.app on an iMac11,2 to Build 19H505. Just like a new iMac.
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No issues whatsoever.
 

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@Henry_Lee - thanks for the info!

To anyone else, ran first aid on the boot SSD, and came across the following errors:

error: directory valence check: directory (oid 0x3): nchildren (4) does not match drec count (188)
error: directory valence check: directory (oid 0x300005c0b): nchildren (6) does not match drec count (8)
error: directory valence check: directory (oid 0x30024d0ee): nchildren (12) does not match drec count (0)

Anyone know what the above is and how to correct?

Edit: never mind. Must have borked something in the directory tree late last night when fiddling around with snapshot restore. While the Mac still ran fine, those fstree errors bothered me that I finally decided just to format and start clean. At least now I know what I'm doing with the updates that this should be straight forward.

Edit 2: if you decide to reinstall from scratch like me, don't forget to turn SIP off in terminal (especially after installing H114 security update). Even though I ran the post-install patches after the security update, I discovered things like WiFi weren't working. Running the post-install patcher again did nothing so I checked SIP status and Apple internal was set to enabled.
 
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Yet another perfect update with the CatalinaOTAswufix.app on an iMac11,2 to Build 19H505. Just like a new iMac. View attachment 1701092
No issues whatsoever.
Nice,

while the OTA upgrade using OC (VMware settings) works fine without any problems on my iMac 2011 to get to the H114 the next step using @jackluke's OTAfix software fails - tried it two times with fresh installations from H15->H114->failing->H505.

System panics on final boot after installation at 100% progress bar when switching over to the login screen....possibly conflicting OC and OTAfix settings.
 
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Nice,

while the OTA upgrade using OC (VMware settings) works fine without any problems on my iMac 2011 to get to the H114 the next step using @jackluke's OTAfix software fails - tried it two times with fresh installations from H15->H114->failing->H505.

System panics on final boot after installation at 100% progress bar when switching over to the login screen....possibly conflicting OC and OTAfix settings.
Started with H15, installed over 10.15.2 and the SU took me straight to H505. Install Validation Patch Update without incident Brought MRT to 1.72. Everything works. ? Suspect OC, as well.
 
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Hello,
10.15.7 H505 now works very well on my Macbook 7,1 mid 2010, but I had 2 incidents during the update installation. On the first try I was probably not fast enough with the OTA update fix, but on the second try it worked.
During the following reboot, I used the post install patch. That stopped shortly before the end and the macbook went into a boot loop. I then ran the post install patch the second time and everything was fine
 
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amstel78

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Hello everyone. Discovered another issue on my fresh install of 10.15.7 running H114 security update. Seems applications like Teams or Skype isn't able to access my camera. Looking in Security and Privacy, I don't see any app requests to use those devices. Facetime on the other hand works fine with the camera. I've reinstalled Teams and rebooted but it just doesn't want to ask for permission. Am I missing some setting in Catalina? I'm wondering if having SIP off is somehow breaking certain apps being able to request access to things like cameras, etc?
Screen Shot 2020-12-25 at 23.03.40.png


Can I turn SIP back on to enable webcam access for Teams?
 
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amstel78

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So I updated your wrapper to make it allow multi select and start in the /Applications folder



If you dont trust me, take the applescript, look at it, and compile it into an app yourself.

Please never trust anything you pull off the internet without looking I can tell you that there is nothing bad in that App but I could be a bad actor.

Hello everyone. Discovered another issue on my fresh install of 10.15.7 running H114 security update. Seems applications like Teams or Skype isn't able to access my camera. Looking in Security and Privacy, I don't see any app requests to use those devices. Facetime on the other hand works fine with the camera. I've reinstalled Teams and rebooted but it just doesn't want to ask for permission. Am I missing some setting in Catalina? I'm wondering if having SIP off is somehow breaking certain apps being able to request access to things like cameras, etc?
View attachment 1701246

Can I turn SIP back on to enable webcam access for Teams?
Found my solution (post# 9732). Thank you to @GrimMethos. I was wondering which of these privileges needs to be selected to allow Teams to also generate notifications (such as the response to a message). Would it be 'PostEvent'?
 

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borgo1971

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Hello everyone. Discovered another issue on my fresh install of 10.15.7 running H114 security update. Seems applications like Teams or Skype isn't able to access my camera...
This seems really worrying, while I'm trying (without success until now) to update my daughters iMac macOS Catalina from .6 to .7, and this is the computer she uses for distance learning during the COVID lockdown.
I was just thinking to try CatalinaOTAswufix.app, but I won't until I couldn't be sure to avoid this issue.
I'm wondering if there are compelling reasons to upgrade the iMac to Catalina .7... or do I risk just having more problems (for now the only problems are hardware limits)?
 

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This seems really worrying, while I'm trying (without success until now) to update my daughters iMac macOS Catalina from .6 to .7, and this is the computer she uses for distance learning during the COVID lockdown.
I was just thinking to try CatalinaOTAswufix.app, but I won't until I couldn't be sure to avoid this issue.
I'm wondering if there are compelling reasons to upgrade the iMac to Catalina .7... or do I risk just having more problems (for now the only problems are hardware limits)?
Is your daughter's iMac unsupported as far as Catalina goes? I'd assume so if you're posting in this thread. That said, if your current version allows you to use things such as Zoom, Skype, or Teams without issue, I'd leave well enough alone for now.

For what it's worth, my clean install of 10.15.7 would not let any 3rd party application access the camera or microphone due to SIP being disabled. And according to everything I've read, it has to remain disabled in order for DosDude1's patches to work properly.

If you really must upgrade and you run into the same problems I did, then tccplus and it's associated wrapper will allow you to manually grant those permissions to 3rd party apps.
 

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Is your daughter's iMac unsupported as far as Catalina goes? I'd assume so if you're posting in this thread. That said, if your current version allows you to use things such as Zoom, Skype, or Teams without issue, I'd leave well enough alone for now.

For what it's worth, my clean install of 10.15.7 would not let any 3rd party application access the camera or microphone due to SIP being disabled. And according to everything I've read, it has to remain disabled in order for DosDude1's patches to work properly.

If you really must upgrade and you run into the same problems I did, then tccplus and it's associated wrapper will allow you to manually grant those permissions to 3rd party apps.
Are you sure it's SIP related ? I used dosdude with catalina 10.15.7 (so with sip disabled) and I had no issue with zoom or teams to access the cam/mic.

I'm now using BS with OC (and SIP is disabled as well even if I may enable it if needed) and the same apps are running well.
 
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borgo1971

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Is your daughter's iMac unsupported as far as Catalina goes?
Yes, it's a 2008 iMac 8,1. And at the moment it works without issues with macOS 10.15.6 (installed thanks to Dosdude's patcher). But I thought that on holidays I've some time to upgrade it (and in worst case, to reinstall it from scratch, although I'd rather avoid doing it), and tried to install macOS 10.15.7 over existing system. As I said in previous post, I tried to install in both ways: booting from internal drive and booting from USB flash drive, and in both case installation seems to went well, but after reboot, Catalina stays at version 10.15.6.
I also tried to re-download both, patcher and macOS installer (that is version 15.7.02), but it didn't help.
 

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Finally:

10.15.7(19H505).png


Had to boot the system disabling OpenCore normally needed to switch on the AMD video acceleration. First installed the latest (full installer) 19H05 using @dosude1 patcher (install to disk) and applied directly the latest security update..

Now patching for iMac 2011 and sleep...

my personal iMac12,2 recipe starting:


0a. disable OpenCore
0b. disable SIP (has been before)
1. install last available full installer (get it using gibMacOS) and ignore installing first security upgrade
2. download and install @jackluke OTASWfix app
3. start the app and follow the on screen instructions - OTA upgrades will be detected and downloaded into the /Library/Updates folder
4a. let the iMac reboot several times and install the upgrade until it is finally done, check the version, should now be 19H505, if not proceed to 4b, on success go to 5
4b. if installation fails then delete contents of /Library/Updates and start over with 3.
5. reboot into the @dosdude installer (regardless which OS version) and run the post install patches option again
6. reboot into your Catalina 19H505 and let the patch updater install missing patches
7. reboot again and install iMac12,2 sleep patches
8. enable OpenCore again on next reboot
9. run test apps as Valley OpenGL benchmark to check basic functionality

Honestly, installing Big Sur is more easy than this....

EDIT:
On boot of this Catalina version (unlike other installed macOS versions ion this particular iMac) is unwilling to connect to BT devices. Had to connect the cable to my 2nd. gen BT keyboard and waited after login for another 5-10 minutes unless the 2nd. gen BT mouse connected to the system, again.
This is similar to my experiences with the current Big Sur 11.1 - there you are going to loose the BT devices after the nth. sleep and you cannot reconnect unless you reboot.
 
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amstel78

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Are you sure it's SIP related ? I used dosdude with catalina 10.15.7 (so with sip disabled) and I had no issue with zoom or teams to access the cam/mic.

I'm now using BS with OC (and SIP is disabled as well even if I may enable it if needed) and the same apps are running well.
Everything points to it being SIP related unless the H114 security update did something. Teams or Skype would never ask for permission to access the mic and camera, and there was no way to add the privileges manually under Security and Privacy. This was a clean install with nothing else on it. What build are you running?

As for enabling SIP on a patched Mac, @dosdude1 says that's a huge no-no, as it'll break the patches and the system becomes unstable. Unless he's changed something to allow for that in the latest 1.4.4 patcher, I'm not going to try it as I have to rely on this machine for work (my Win10 PC is at my other residence).

Edit: found this last night on the MS support forum. Other anecdotal reports seem to correspond, including my own.
Screen Shot 2020-12-26 at 11.57.53.png
 
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trifero

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Everything points to it being SIP related unless the H114 security update did something. Teams or Skype would never ask for permission to access the mic and camera, and there was no way to add the privileges manually under Security and Privacy. This was a clean install with nothing else on it. What build are you running?

As for enabling SIP on a patched Mac, @dosdude1 says that's a huge no-no, as it'll break the patches and the system becomes unstable. Unless he's changed something to allow for that in the latest 1.4.4 patcher, I'm not going to try it as I have to rely on this machine for work (my Win10 PC is at my other residence).

Edit: found this last night on the MS support forum. Other anecdotal reports seem to correspond, including my own.
View attachment 1701445
Anyway, I have never enabled SIP in my macs in the last years. For those who likes to tune the system, it´s a nightmare. And never had a problem. Though I understand it´s a good thing for newbies.
 
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Thank you for the very concise description and instructions. It's much appreciated.

I've done everything you've described, more than three times in fact (including deleting the downloaded update from the /Library/Updates folder and starting over. Everytime I do, I reboot then restart the download again. At that time, I'll click the OTA fix button and receive a long window showing successful changes. I let the Mac reboot after download completes but it's at that point that the security update installer never starts. Instead, the Mac will just boot right back into Catalina with no software changes taking place.
I also found if there was a safari update I had to do that update first then the security update
 

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Anyway, I have never enabled SIP in my macs in the last years. For those who likes to tune the system, it´s a nightmare. And never had a problem. Though I understand it´s a good thing for newbies.
Well, the problem with having SIP deactivated means a lot of third party applications won't be able to request system privileges such as location, camera, or microphone. Not a big deal for those who have supported Macs that can run Catalina or Big Sur natively. It's an issue for folks like us (at least me anyhow) that rely on applications like MS Teams to work remotely, and have older hardware that can't run the latest Mac OS natively.

Honestly, I'd never have upgraded operating systems on my 3,1 but because Adobe is dropping support for certain programs, I didn't have a choice.
 

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Well, the problem with having SIP deactivated means a lot of third party applications won't be able to request system privileges such as location, camera, or microphone. Not a big deal for those who have supported Macs that can run Catalina or Big Sur natively. It's an issue for folks like us (at least me anyhow) that rely on applications like MS Teams to work remotely, and have older hardware that can't run the latest Mac OS natively.

Honestly, I'd never have upgraded operating systems on my 3,1 but because Adobe is dropping support for certain programs, I didn't have a choice.
I understand. At the end, all is working good. Right?
 
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