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Airsculpture

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Oct 14, 2020
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Save dialogs are all tiny and do not remember resize. I find it utterly amazing that this can at all happen, and it somehow indicates that developers and QA people do not use the OS at all.

For every update when Apple wants to introduce some new silly "feature", tons of bugs are introduced, for the most basic of functionality.
Noting all the negativity and in places valid gripes about OS11, why don't you go back to Catalina..... genuine question ?
 

pajako

macrumors member
Dec 22, 2017
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Save dialogs are all tiny and do not remember resize. I find it utterly amazing that this can at all happen, and it somehow indicates that developers and QA people do not use the OS at all.

For every update when Apple wants to introduce some new silly "feature", tons of bugs are introduced, for the most basic of functionality.
I have noticed this too and regard this as a very annoying ‘update’!
 

pajako

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Dec 22, 2017
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Noting all the negativity and in places valid gripes about OS11, why don't you go back to Catalina..... genuine question ?
How come should I go back to Catalina when something like this is magically and without no reason at all introduced in a .1 update?
 
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Josiana

macrumors newbie
Jun 6, 2018
23
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Updated (not fresh install) 2014 13" MBP (11,1) directly from Mojave to Big Sur 11.1 today. I did not use "software update", but the full App Store installer instead.

No issues with installing the update, what so ever. It rebooted several times, but no red bar, freezes, or black screen. Seems to be running very smoothly on maxed out MBP – dual-core 3ghz i7, 16gb RAM, SSD. However, it does seem like the battery does not last quite as long.. Not terrible, but noticeable.
 
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Toonartist

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Sep 19, 2017
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Apple Watch still doesn't unlock any of my Macs on Big Sur...Just getting the following message:

"Your Mac was unable to communicate with your Apple Watch. Make sure your Apple Watch is unlocked, on your wrist and powered on."

My Apple Watch is unlocked... and open. I wonder if this is going to be similar to last years "External eGPU" problem... hangs around until the next release.
 
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wilsonlaidlaw

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Oct 29, 2008
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Tried three times to install the 11.1 update and it falls over every time, after apparently completing the 3GB+ download. This on a 2017 MBP 15" running 11.0.1. Have just run disc first aid and will try yet again. No combo update available which is the usual cure for this sort of nonsense, which is less than wholly helpful of Apple.
 
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pjpom

macrumors newbie
Sep 15, 2018
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Thailand
In Thailand and still here after four hours of watching update say another five minutes for over an hour, slowest update ever and only 3.5 gig.
late 2015 21.5 inch iMac 4K
 

Benz63amg

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Oct 17, 2010
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after the updating to Big Sur 11.1 I noticed an item under the system privacy settings > Full disc access called “SSH-Keygen-Wrapper” which was not there before the update, Can someone please check if they have this item there as well? I’ve not seen this prior to upgrading to 11.1 and have no idea what it is
 

Mr$tone

macrumors 6502
Oct 25, 2017
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11.1 fixed my problems with Bluetooth (Magic Mouse 2) and external screen randomly loosing signal. Holding my thumbs it’s permanently and not temporarily.
 

Marshall73

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Apr 20, 2015
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my net isn't too bad its 80mb but its a large download isn't it and Apple is prob getting hammered with updates. But Im happy with that 1 hour total download and set up. I had to wipe this laptop 2 weeks ago as I was messing around and broke it, took me 5 hours of error after error to get it to finally install haha.
Gonna install it tonight. Hopefully things have calmed down now.
 
Have a question about heat and V11.1 of Big Sur. Yesterday I did a clean, fresh installation of V11.1 of Big Sur onto an APFS-formatted partition (145 gig in size) on my recently purchased Samsung T7 1 TB external SSD. At the end of the installation, and as usually the case, I migrated files, folders, settings, apps, etc. from my Catalina-based late 2018 Mac Mini. All of that went smoothly.

I am so far pleased with Big Sur. Not having any issues with it or just about all my applications (3 of them are not compatible yet), but a concern I have is how hot that external SSD gets when I run Big Sur and apps from that partition. I have 2 other partitions on it (formatted as HFS+) that contain a number of movies on one of them, and a number of TV series on the other. Whether I use VLC to watch either a movie or an episode of a TV series, or do the same thing with either of our Roku Ultra Streaming devices with its' equivalent media player, it does not get very hot at all.

So, should I be concerned about this heat issue? What I am worried about (maybe somewhat paranoid) is that SSD could get ruined by that heat issue. For the prior 2 versions of the Mac OS (Mojave and Catalina), I had such a partition on a Samsung 500 gig 860 EVO SSD mounted inside an Orico enclosure, and did not experience as much of a heat issue. Of course the Orico enclosure is larger, and the T7 has read and write speeds that are almost double what the 860 EVE SSD had. And the T7's enclosure is much smaller.

Would appreciate any advice, suggestions, etc.
 

Benz63amg

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Oct 17, 2010
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Have a question about heat and V11.1 of Big Sur. Yesterday I did a clean, fresh installation of V11.1 of Big Sur onto an APFS-formatted partition (145 gig in size) on my recently purchased Samsung T7 1 TB external SSD. At the end of the installation, and as usually the case, I migrated files, folders, settings, apps, etc. from my Catalina-based late 2018 Mac Mini. All of that went smoothly.

I am so far pleased with Big Sur. Not having any issues with it or just about all my applications (3 of them are not compatible yet), but a concern I have is how hot that external SSD gets when I run Big Sur and apps from that partition. I have 2 other partitions on it (formatted as HFS+) that contain a number of movies on one of them, and a number of TV series on the other. Whether I use VLC to watch either a movie or an episode of a TV series, or do the same thing with either of our Roku Ultra Streaming devices with its' equivalent media player, it does not get very hot at all.

So, should I be concerned about this heat issue? What I am worried about (maybe somewhat paranoid) is that SSD could get ruined by that heat issue. For the prior 2 versions of the Mac OS (Mojave and Catalina), I had such a partition on a Samsung 500 gig 860 EVO SSD mounted inside an Orico enclosure, and did not experience as much of a heat issue. Of course the Orico enclosure is larger, and the T7 has read and write speeds that are almost double what the 860 EVE SSD had. And the T7's enclosure is much smaller.

Would appreciate any advice, suggestions, etc.
While not related to your question, Can you please go under System Preferences, click Security & Privacy, then click Privacy, under “Full Disc Access” do you see “SSH-Keygen-wrapper” in the list? I just noticed that item show up after updating from Big Sur 11.0.1 to 11.1 and am not sure if that item is something apple added in 11.1 and don’t really want to do a fresh install just to find out and since you just did a fresh install id really appreciate if you can just take a look at the privacy menu to see if that item is present under “Full Disc Access”
Thank you so much
 
Can you please go under System Preferences, click Security & Privacy, then click Privacy, under “Full Disc Access” do you see “SSH-Keygen-wrapper” in the list? I just noticed that item show up after updating from Big Sur 11.0.1 to 11.1 and am not sure if that item is something apple added in 11.1 and don’t really want to do a fresh install just to find out and since you just did a fresh install id really appreciate if you can just take a look at the privacy menu to see if that item is present under “Full Disc Access”
Will do in a few minutes. Have to attach that SSD to my Mini and restart it from that Big Sur partition.
 

Benz63amg

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Oct 17, 2010
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Will do in a few minutes. Have to attach that SSD to my Mini and restart it from that Big Sur partition.
Thank you so much, I noticed that item under the Privacy Full Disc Access panel last night after I updated to 11.1 and don’t recall ever seeing “SSH-Keygen-Wrapped” under that menu and have started brainstorming about potentially having malware or something of that nature on my computer. I never had a remote computer access my Mac nor have I tried to access another computer remotely so I don’t understand why that setting would be there unless Apple somehow added it in 11.1 update for everyone
 

jazz1

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Aug 19, 2002
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It's AWFUL! I spend more than 5 minutes on waiting to boot and get ready whereas when i had Catalina it booted up in a few seconds. iMac 2017 1TB fusion i5. Completely unacceptable.
Wow! Good to know. I just installed 11.1 on my Late 2015 iMac. I rarely shut it down, I just sleep it. But, it is good to know there is an issue here. You just saved me from a "heart attack". I hope they fix this because I love my trusty iMac...though I'm spending a lot of time on the M1 MacMini:p
 
Thank you so much, I noticed that item under the Privacy Full Disc Access panel last night after I updated to 11.1 and don’t recall ever seeing “SSH-Keygen-Wrapped” under that menu and have started brainstorming about potentially having malware or something of that nature on my computer. I never had a remote computer access my Mac nor have I tried to access another computer remotely so I don’t understand why that setting would be there unless Apple somehow added it in 11.1 update for everyone
OK, now in my Big Sur "environment", and no, it's not there. In fact there are only 4 entries there (so far): ClamXAV Helper Tool (I have ClamXAV installed, but not running in the background), Onyx, TechTool Pro Daemon (not "active', as Tech Tool Pro is not yet compatible with Big Sur) , and EasyFind.

Also, the SSD is not very hot (so far) this time. When I did the installation and migration yesterday, SSD access on that partition was, of course, continuous and somewhat "intense". Maybe that's why it got so hot.

I'm going to go ahead and use Big Sur for most of the day. The only thing I can't (possibly reliably) do is properly check my EMail. Thunderbird is not quite compatible with Big Sur.

If anyone else needs anything similar, let me know.
 

Benz63amg

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Oct 17, 2010
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OK, now in my Big Sur "environment", and no, it's not there. In fact there are only 4 entries there (so far): ClamXAV Helper Tool (I have ClamXAV installed, but not running in the background), Onyx, TechTool Pro Daemon (not "active', as Tech Tool Pro is not yet compatible with Big Sur) , and EasyFind.

Also, the SSD is not very hot (so far) this time. When I did the installation and migration yesterday, SSD access on that partition was, of course, continuous and somewhat "intense". Maybe that's why it got so hot.

I'm going to go ahead and use Big Sur for most of the day. The only thing I can't (possibly reliably) do is properly check my EMail. Thunderbird is not quite compatible with Big Sur.

If anyone else needs anything similar, let me know.
You looked under “Full disc Access”?
 

KoolAid-Drink

macrumors 68000
Sep 18, 2013
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947
USA
While not related to your question, Can you please go under System Preferences, click Security & Privacy, then click Privacy, under “Full Disc Access” do you see “SSH-Keygen-wrapper” in the list? I just noticed that item show up after updating from Big Sur 11.0.1 to 11.1 and am not sure if that item is something apple added in 11.1 and don’t really want to do a fresh install just to find out and since you just did a fresh install id really appreciate if you can just take a look at the privacy menu to see if that item is present under “Full Disc Access”
Thank you so much
I do see that too, even though mine says "SSHD-....", but other than the D, it's the same as yours.
 

Benz63amg

macrumors 601
Oct 17, 2010
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911
I do see that too, even though mine says "SSHD-....", but other than the D, it's the same as yours.
It’s actually SSHD I’m sorry for the typo, so you have it too? Did you notice it prior to 11.1 and is it Un-ticked for you as well or was it ticked?
You never had a remote computer access your Mac or you accessed another Mac remotely either right? (Just as in my case)
 

wilsonlaidlaw

macrumors 6502
Oct 29, 2008
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I had to install the 11.1 update in safe mode. Hope this might help others having an update issue like I did, crashing every time on the restart and failing to update.
 
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